Is this a misuse of the disabled parking permit?

ggu

A person who holds a blue badge parks up in a disabled space whilst the holder remains in the car and an able bodied person gets in and out of the car. They are using it as a set down for able bodied people.

My uncle is a holder of one and does this for the benefit of his wife and my cousins.

looksee

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058324417/is-this-a-misuse-of-the-disabled-parking-permit

Yes, it is not the intended use of badges.

(just realised that this post could have been put in the other parking permit thread.

cnocbui

Just look on the bright side, the shopping will likely be done a lot faster and the space made available far sooner than if the card holder did as you want.

My mother had a disabillity sticker, and I recall one time I was with her she parked in a bay while my able bodied self popped into the shop in her stead. All up it must have taken 6-7 minutes or less and we were gone.

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looksee

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121417226#Comment_121417226

This argument does not make any sense at all. If she had parked in a non-disability space the difference in time for you to go into the shop would have been insignificant. Meanwhile another disabled person might well have had to park a distance away in a narrower space that was difficult to manage a wheelchair or even just getting into or out of the car.

cnocbui

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121417328#Comment_121417328

A disabled person was legitimately occupying the spot. You seem to be deliberately avoiding recognising the point I was making because it didn't suit your attempt at creating yet another disabled parking rage thread.

In my neck of the woods, there are acres of disabled parking bays that are always empty at the times I am about, so I have no real world experience of ever seeing any disabled person inconvenienced or deprived an appropriate parking opportunity.

looksee

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121417381#Comment_121417381

Ah right, I see where the argument is going, and hardly worth pursuing. However the disabled person would only have been legitimately using the space if they intended to get out of the car. Parking there and just sitting in the space is just being a dog in a manger, small minded and rather pathetic.

cnocbui

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121417370#Comment_121417370

This was more than a decade ago in another country, so my recollection may be off, but as I recall, it was in a small fairly tight parking lot attached to a row of shops. My mother was driving and the car parking area was full or nearly so. The disabled bay was easy to park in whereas if there were actually any available spaces, they would have presented her with some difficulty getting in to.

There were other occasions when she did park in an easily accessible normal street spots and I popped in for her, but there's no rage milage to be got from that tale.

I am not interested in people who try to manufacture rage based on 'mights'. This was the very definition of 'popping into' a shop. I was in, out and we were gone in single figure minutes. I am unaware of any other disabled driver being inconvenienced. Had my mother parked in the dsabled bay and then taken twice the length of time or more to get what she wanted, there would have been a far higher liklihood of another disabled person finding the parking space occupied.

cnocbui

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121417393#Comment_121417393

Calling my mother small minded, a dog in the manger and pathetic - you are a lovely person. She was a disabled octogenerian who regularly and industriously looked after the interests of a near neighbour who was a centenarian, taking her shopping and doing her shopping as needed.

Imagine that, a spiteful nasty person occupying a disabled bay while she saw to the needs of someone who didn't even have a car, let alone a valid disabled sticker. Should have been locked up.

Ezeoul

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121417393#Comment_121417393

Not true. They do not have to get out of the car, to be legitimately occupying a space.

There is no rule against this, as I posted on the other thread. I posted the terms and conditions there.

While it goes against the ethos of the badge (which is to leave as many spaces available for those with the greatest need) there is no rule forbidding it.

Using regular spaces where possible, is encouraged, and framed as a request, but it is not a rule.

ETA:

looksee

I would think that the ethos of using disabled spaces was more important than the strict observance of the rules. I can't be bothered with rules lawyering.

As for cnocbui's desperate attempts to defend/deflect/take offence, I was referring to any person doing that kind of thing, including the OP's example, but if you want to apply it to your mother, well, if the cap fits.