The Agricultural revolution was a disastrous mistake for the well being of humans

badabing106

Mental illnesses did not exist in the hunter gather epoch

There was no obesity or melancholy

Humans were primed mentally and physically to thrive and they did.

These were real human communities that were incredibly bonded to each other. This simply does not exist today. ( Walk around any city or town and observe people with sad faces,eyes to the ground, ignoring everything, consumed by

Hunters gatherers lived in the moment and thrived in their environment.Hunter gatherers had very few needs and when they were they met, great joy

Does anybody disagree with this

badabing106

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 have depression.

Montage of Feck

Nah, it was the industrial revolution and the invention of the clock.

tphase

Tetraethyl lead....'nuff said

SuperBowserWorld

I think the book Sapiens discusses all of this in detail. People became slaves to the land and to owners of that land. And farm animals had a pretty brutal existence since. But, it did allow incredible civilisations to flourish and not so incredible ones to flourish.

Seth Brundle

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Mental illnesses did not exist in the hunter gather epoch

How do you know that it didn't exist?

There was no obesity or melancholy

Again, whatever about obesity, how do you know there was no melancholy?

These were real human communities that were incredibly bonded to each other. This simply does not exist today. ( Walk around any city or town and observe people with sad faces,eyes to the ground, ignoring everything, consumed by

They also had human sacrifices - is that something you'd like to see return? They also had quite short life spans, high infant mortality, no dental treatment or medication. Do you really miss all that?

badabing106

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Human sacrifice only became common practice in post agricultural societies! Think of the ritual sacrifices made to ensure a good crop each year!

Tens of thousands of Humans sacrificed to build the pyramids in Egypt

80,000 Humans were sacrifed over a 4 day festival ! by the aztecs in 1497

Think of the millions of human sacrifices caused by the invention of Religion!

They had normal lifespans for that time period. They had healthier and higher life spans than the people that followed them

Communicable diseases existed during hunter-gatherer era, but the shift to agrarian life 10,000 years ago created larger communities where epidemics thrived and became more fatal. Malaria, tuberculosis, leprosy, influenza, smallpox etc

Padre_Pio

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How do you know?

Most archaeological remains of humans don't go back more than 5000 years. It's impossible to know what society was like then.

Malnutrition, war,famine, pestilence, injustice all must have existed, but not at the same scale as the population could not sustain it.

Thousands of people try to join the Amish community in America looking for the exact things you promise pre agricultural societies had. Very few stick it out.

Grayson

Studies of tribes in africa have shown that depression and anxiety do exist in hunter gatherer societies.

If you'd said that modern societies caused an increase in it, you might have had a point. But you said they didn't exist which shows that you're just working off what you want to believe and not the actual evidence.

Addmagnet

Ah yes, our hunter gatherer ancestors had so much more freedom:

"... freedom to catch any diseases of their choice, starve as much as they wanted, and die of whatever dreadful ague took their fancy."

to quote Sir Terry Pratchett.

Cluedo Monopoly

Big Food is killing us all with processing and insecticides/poison in our food.

ancapailldorcha

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Yes. This is nothing more than a batch of baseless, fanciful claims.

We're much safer and better off now.

Shoog

No society that adopts agriculture has ever reverted to a hunter gatherer lifestyle. That should tell you everything you need to know about the desirability of hunter gatherer life.

The reality is that hunter gathering lifestyle is incredibly land extensive which means that hunter gatherer societies are constantly fighting over resource boundaries. Low level Warfare is almost constant of daily life.

There were many negatives to agricultural life but it was a significant progress for human life.

AllForIt

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There was no obesity or melancholy

Meat are dairy are not the causes of obesity, that would be carbs and sugar, which are 'vegan' foods.

Ten of Swords

Hunters gatherers lived in the moment and thrived in their environment.Hunter gatherers had very few needs and when they were they met, great joy

And when they weren't... a horrendous death.

growleaves

Human consciousness has undergone changes so that even if we judge the spiritual life of hunter gatherer man as superior we can't return to it unconsciously. For the hunter gatherer the 'self' was much less developed and distinct than it is for us.

The hunter-gatherer is barely aware of himself as an individual and doesn't see himself as totally separate from the physical world and the cosmos.

thinkabouit

Over 20 civilisation’s have failed before us and all they had was organic agriculture.

We are in serious trouble with our agriculture practices & policy’s which is based off chemistry, and smart marketing of technology.

And its all been to the absolute detriment of the environment & everything else.