Question about Sheriff

hugo habicht

As I said before, my business would not be affected, nothing to take, the business has no assets. And to be honest, with the hassle Revenue is giving me, keyword "payroll modernisation" which takes me now three times as long to process as before, CT1 which does not work on ROS, and the Cro etc. etc. I am more and more tempted to close down and simply do a few jobs cash in the hand.

mickdw

Just make contact with the Sheriff.

You appear to be fond of childish tantrums. The sheriff is an interesting one to test your tantrum on whether you are in the right or the wrong.

Let us know how it goes anyway.

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121388946#Comment_121388946

Every business has assets. Do you stand up all day or do you have a chair to sit in? A laptop computer? All will be seized.

Ash.J.Williams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121387292#Comment_121387292

It's a generic template letter , every self employed person gets them when it appears they've missed a vat payment

Worst case scenario is the Viper and his new pal Jonathan Mr Big Downey smash your front door in

Until you ring the sherrif the law is on their side

scwazrh

You are showing your inexperience in business if you think having a tantrum with the revenue sheriff is a smart move .Play games with them and see how quickly you get audited and even if they find nothing wrong the cost of dealing with an audit isn’t small.I know from experience of dealing with the sheriff that you will feel like they are bullying or harassing you but you’ve got to suck it up and move on.They have the power not you .

hugo habicht

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121391176#Comment_121391176

No, the business does not own any assets ;-)

And I am not afraid of audits.

So I phoned the sheriff and it turns out that the second identical letter from revenue was actually another demand. I had written to them at the time and they couldn't be bothered to reply. So I paid today but I will ask revenue for a refund of the interest and fees. And don't worry, I will get it back, one way or another.

Widdensushi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121386583#Comment_121386583

How much compensation will you be looking for??

hugo habicht

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121393006#Comment_121393006

the interest and the sheriff fees.

mickdw

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121392957#Comment_121392957

So are you saying you actually owed the money after all?

Sunny Dayz

Have you access to Revenue's online system - ROS? You can see there what you owe to Revenue, though it takes a couple of days for the system to update. Is there a chance that there may have been a cross over between when you sent the payment and when Revenue sent the debt to the sheriff? I've dealt with Revenue Sheriffs a number of times and they are usually straight forward to deal with. But because your debt has been referred to them, you will still be liable for the sheriff costs, Revenue will not reimburse you for them. If you sit on the sheriff letter and do nothing you will then be liable for the costs they incur when they visit your premises. When you ring the sheriff and engage with them, they are a lot better to deal with than if you just ignore them.

Lastly, don't bother writing to Revenue! Ring them in the morning time, you may be on hold for a while.

hugo habicht

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121397386#Comment_121397386

No, revenue actually owes me. My main customers are all VAT exempt.

And don't worry, I will get all the fees and interest back from revenue.

TooTired123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121387249#Comment_121387249

Every year my very elderly mother pays her couple of €100 tax as soon as she gets the letter from Revenue. As she’s 90 she doesn’t do online. So she sends a bank draft, literally goes to the bank the day she gets the demand, buys the bank draft, puts it in the post.

Within a few days she’ll get a “reminder” to pay. Then within another couple of days she’ll get a letter threatening her with potential legal action.

This, because she didn’t pay online.

This year I wrote a letter for her to sign, explaining that at 90, in a nursing home, she was living in fear of getting a summons to court over a debt she’d paid in full.

A few days later a rather snotty woman rang her, I think with the intent of half heartedly apologising, but chiding my mother mildly none the less for not simply ignoring the two letters. Apparently they are computer generated. Very poor customer service.

Claw Hammer

Just because someone is 90 doesn't mean they can't do online. There is no upper age limit on using ROS. Go into a shop they will often bring the card machine even though a person is paying with cash.

TooTired123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121433220#Comment_121433220

What “shop” are you referring to?

Nobody suggested that there should be an upper age limit on using MyAccount/ROS, so I don’t know what point you’re trying to make.

My mother simply doesn’t want to do revenue online. My complaint is that she got a demand, a reminder notice and a threat of legal action in a matter of 10 days or so and that’s not acceptable. Are you saying that it is?

mickdw

Its a disgrace. A revenue demand is a very frightening thing to get in the post. For a 90 year old, I'd imagine it would cause great upset.

They should really have better systems in place. Even the Ros system has been a shambles this year.

GSBellew

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121405868#Comment_121405868

Em, but you did owe money did you not?

Correct me if I am wrong, but you got two demands, ignoring the second one because you mistakenly assumed it was for the previously paid one, turns out it wasn't and you did indeed have an unfulfilled liability which you continued to ignore so it was correctly passed on to the Sheriff for collection, now there is interest applied as you had not paid?

It strikes me that you are not sufficiently competent at dealing with taxation and or paying / filing returns especially if you are finding PAYE modernisation to be a burden, in reality that should have made it easier, you may wish to consider engaging a sufficiently qualified person to assist you in this regard.