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A job you hate for 3X your current salary or one you love for 60% of current salary?

  • 11-11-2023 6:32pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 582 ✭✭✭


    Would you take a job you hate with a c*nt of a boss that you dread going into every day and involves commuting, stress, dick colleagues etc.. but, you are financially very well off,

    Or

    A job you jump out of bed for with colleagues that are more like friends, suits your work/life balance and you are doing good for the world/community..... but, you will be financially limited in your life choices......


    Hmmmm.....

    *You must stay in the job for min 5 years.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,991 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Option 2 all day long.

    Most people would never last 5 years in the first one and probably end up with multiple health and mental issues. Granted there are some that would manage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Why are the options so diverse ?

    What's wrong with just getting a job around your current pay ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭dmc17




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    He already has a job that he is proposing to leave for either one with 3x salary or 60% of his current salary.

    Why take the high paying one with all its problems ?

    Why take a pay cut to go to the other one ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 582 ✭✭✭fortwilliam


    Because it's a hypothetical question designed to generate thoughtful discussion.................😖



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭lbunnae


    3 times for 5 years and retire young



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Well then obviously the thoughtful solution is to take neither 🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,852 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,368 ✭✭✭nachouser


    Any job at all would be a good start for some on here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,600 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Option one you would never survive 5 years on a salary of 60% of your previous one. You would have too many outgoings and too many commitments. As my mother used to say ''when poverty come in the door love goes out the window''

    Then again I am now semi retired and worked the bones of 40 years in different jobs and managers. There was one or two I did not get on with, however after one or two standoffs we stayed out of each other way.

    Remember he has to put up with you for five years as well. As one manager said to another worker after we had a disagreement ( not a row it was multi team meeting and there was a issue with scheduling) he made the mistake of asking a question he did not know the answer to. His comment to the other worker was '' I am not sure I want to step on his toes".

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie


    Provided I had enough to get by , the job I enjoyed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    The 60% one from those options. I'd never last in a job I hated just for money. I'd have a bigger house, more expensive car and stay in fancier hotels on holidays but I'd be miserable. I've enough money on 100% I don't need 300%

    On the 60%, things would become very tight. But I've a 222 electric car I suppose I could get rid of in favour of an old cheap car. I could make lunch instead of buying it in work and I could sit down and budget each month. Would bridge the gap a bit and would be nice to really love a job.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭xeresod


    Definitely option 2...already hate my current job!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,514 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    Am enjoyable job can change very quickly if there is a change in management or market conditions. Colleagues who were formerly "like friends" may turn on each other. I know of several cases where this happened. Also, if you are finding a job enjoyable, you can be sure that this has been noted by someone who will try to use it to their advantage e.g. use the happiness of the staff to implement pay cuts.

    The other side is, a horrible job will rarely turn into an enjoyable job. Arseholes and bullies will hang around until the bitter end, they thrive in toxic environments while other people are drained of energy in them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    I don't get the colleagues like friends..they're colleagues. Ok to get on with on work. Never see them anywhere else.

    No amount ofoney or perks would have me work a job Id hate. Life is really way too short.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭RoboRat


    I'd take the job I love for 60%. You can adjust your living standards to suit your salary. I wouldn't work somewhere I hated for any money, I've been there, and it rots your life to the core.

    Thankfully I moved to a job I love for 2x my salary. I've been offered a good bit more to move, but I'm happy... I'm appreciated, i work with great people, and they're very flexible, and that means a lot more than money to me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    I left my easy but boring job accounting desk last November and took a 70% paycut to go and be an ambulance officer. Not a **** chance I'd go back



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭babyducklings1


    The first one sounds awful but if you knew you could retire after the five years or achieve some other big goal then maybe, still you’d need an awful lot of stamina and iron grit. Sounds like a nightmare though long commute and then toxic work environment.

    Second one much better. Better for mental health, more rewarding, life satisfaction etc. Body won’t be burnt out from long commute, nice colleagues so good for mental health. Less money though so need very good budgeting skills. Health is wealth though at the end of the day and the first one could spell burn out or a breakdown. Not worth it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,879 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Why settle for nasty managers or poor wages. Get that woman sacked for being a c*. And organise a union in the other place for proper wages.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,517 ✭✭✭Tork


    I'd take the first option if it meant I couldn't be sacked. Then I'd just be mediocre as fck and let the crap whistle by my ears.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,204 ✭✭✭amacca


    See that's the thing, if you knew there was an overall very desirable end game/goal/reward at the end of the five year tunnel of shite you might even see it as a challenge and not let it get the better of you and come out the other end not in as bad a condition as the OPs description might make you believe...+ you could always make them pay in more than cash once the 5 years was up😇


    If its just for more money and there's no other carrot + all the downside.....then as the actor who played either cheech or chong and subsequently played that vampire ouside the titty twister in from dawn till dusk said at the end of his amusing all kinds of pussy monologue "fuuuck iit"



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    This post exactly. do this.

    Take the 3x salary and watch how many muppets earn serious money for being very very useless.

    Sit back, bite your tounge, do a bit of work, just enough to meet goals, there are so many fuckwits that make a careeer out of talking absolute shite. Why not join them and take the cash?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,879 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Option 2.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭Packrat


    Either, I could happily do either.

    Happy out as I am though.

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,977 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    I'd have to pick option 1 as living off 60% of my current salary would be impossible



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,225 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Same.. I eat out, buy nice clothes and go on a couple of holidays a year….

    you are stuck 40 hours a week with the gimps, not ideal.

    but slightly preferable to being stuck all year round with feck all money..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,791 ✭✭✭Feisar


    To quote Lester Freamon, follow the money.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭Chocolatier


    But if you were able to let the crap whistle by your ears, you wouldn't really hate it and dread going in every day. Dread means you care.

    Option two for me - if it has to be an either/or.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭BraveDonut


    I walked out of a job last year where I hated my boss and couldn't work for him.

    I was earning 25% more and also had generous stock options.

    Much happier doing the job I am doing now.


    The difference is - with the first job I was getting very sick. Couldn't sleep and then I got to the stage where I couldn't eat. I knew I was heading for a breakdown and just left. I am an older man and well used to working with cnut bosses, but this lad just pushed it too far



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 990 ✭✭✭Fred Cryton


    Much trickier dilemma is new job with 30% more pay, but twice as much stress and concentration required compared with current job.

    I think once you earn over 100k in this country, that becomes a hard choice. Let's say you on 100k now and new job is 130k but twice as much stress. After tax you only 15k better off. Might not be worth it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 896 ✭✭✭taxAHcruel


    Kinda been making that decision myself over and over for 15 years. Turned down a lot of job changes and salary increases and so forth because I am happy doing what I am doing. And more than that I am happy with the work/life balance I have and the time I have available for the things I love doing in life.

    All the new jobs or promotions or salary increases I have been offered in that time would come with either work I do not enjoy - people I do not like - or a reduction in the time I spend doing other things in life. None of which would be worth the money.

    Means living a relatively frugal life compared to what I could be living. But I am content with that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 749 ✭✭✭tjhook


    3x the salary but the state takes most of the increase? No thanks.

    On other hand a 40% pay reduction is far less than a 40% reduction in net pay.

    I suppose this is socialist dream - bring everybody down to the same level.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,544 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    Can porn star be option two?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,754 ✭✭✭quokula


    300% is five times 60%

    So if option A is 1 million and B is 200k I'd take B

    If option A is 100k and B is 20k I'd take A

    There is a point, I'd say probably somewhere around 80-100k, where you are already comfortable and hit diminishing returns on how much extra salary will actually improve your life outside of work and you start having the freedom to be more discerning about quality of life in work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,636 ✭✭✭jj880


    Having a work life balance that suits you is a plus point for a job but a job you love? Is that a fair days work for a fair days pay?

    Anyone got any examples of a job they love and why you love it?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,477 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Reminds me of that episode of The Simpsons when Homer goes to work in the bowling alley but has to leave it and go back to the Power Plant. Homer loved working in the bowling alley but wasn't making enough to support his family so he had to get his old job back leading to one of the most depressing and touching scenes in TV history.

    That being said, I'd rather work in a job I loved. There are probably other opportunities that would arise from it anyway.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,958 ✭✭✭DopeTech


    You'd have to go for the 3x one and try stick it out. You could always pick up a lesser paid job afterwards. You could pay off the mortgage in no time which would mean after a few years you wouldn't need the high paying job as much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Jafin


    I already have the perks of option 2 with a decent salary, so I'll stick with what I have. Job satisfaction/happiness is far more important to me than extra money accompanied by misery.



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