Mary Robinson 2025 : The next president of Ireland?

Leven Lustful

Mary Robinson is entitled to nominate herself to run for president to serve a second term in 2025, considering that climate change is her thing and a big thing in the 2020s, it would make sense for her to return to the Aras on a climate change platform which would appeal to young people, also most people over 45 would vote for her due to nostalgia for her first term in the 90s, Age might be mentioned as an issue but she is younger than Joe Biden

Jim_Hodge

She made it clear in the past that she's not interested and sees herself doing more good elsewhere.

SEPT 23 1989

is that fruitcake still involved with "The Elders"

google it

the arrogance of it

Atlantic Dawn

Travelling around the world putting up more emissions than Finglas and then waffling to us about climate change, no thanks.

StevenToast

I prefer David McSavages version of Mary Robinson....

https://youtu.be/BBLR8rSRSkw?si=Hl5o0wqWO5wYD2Sy

ednwireland

lord no, couldn't be bothered to serve out her term last time, should disqualify her

alias no.9

Haven't we had enough of Mary's in the Aras?

jmcc

Hadn't the decency to finish her term. The Irish Times and RTE would love her to run. Don't think that Labour and the Stickies will have enough council or Dail seats to nominate her this time round.

Regards...jmcc

Jim_Hodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121340718#Comment_121340718

She can nominate herself. But she won't.

jmcc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121340773#Comment_121340773

Are you sure that she can? Is it only a sitting president that can self-nominate?

Regards...jmcc

Podge_irl

4   1° Every citizen who has reached his thirty-fifth year of age is eligible for election to the office of President.

2° Every candidate for election, not a former or retiring President, must be nominated either by

i      not less than twenty persons, each of whom is at the time a member of one of the Houses of the Oireachtas, or

ii     by the Councils of not less than four administrative Counties (including County Boroughs) as defined by law.

3° No person and no such Council shall be entitled to subscribe to the nomination of more than one candidate in respect of the same election.

4° Former or retiring Presidents may become candidates on their own nomination.

Nah, she could nominate herself if she wanted. It's not going to happen though.

Strumms

She is an odious individual.

her behaviour during her term as in the manner she left the office was despicable.

she obviously had while as President been in long talks with the UN about her leaving and joining them and what role she’d encompass. Months and months of talks you’d have to envision having taken place…extremely underhanded…all that going on while being paid by the Irish taxpayers…

She was elected to the presidency to see out a full term by the Irish citizens, to only serve the Irish citizens and because a more lucrative and suitable offer was made to her, she jumped ship early…..that aside I genuinely have never liked the cut of her jib…disrespecting the highest office in the country and by proxy the country and its citizens… quite simply unless you get ill, you should never seek to leave the office which you actively volunteered for and were elected to by the citizens.

saying that I’d say she might hook in a lot of 18-35 year olds, her campaign if she does run will be focused on getting the woke 🤮 vote so…

that demographic will have little to no memory of her indiscretion..but a lot of those dweebs would be thinking…” OMG, yeah she resigned because she wanted to help people in the UN “ 🤪

Odhinn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058321492/mary-robinson-2025-the-next-president-of-ireland

Her ego is so grown by now theres no way she'd fit in the aras.

Marcos

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121341375#Comment_121341375

Don't forget the greed and entitlement too. Princess Latifa might also disagree with her actions in trying to persuade the world that she was happy at being returned to Dubai when she tried to do a runner.

L.Ball

I genuinely think they try to make the office of President seem farcical at every opportunity so they can eventually table scrapping it along with the Seanad

Strumms

Look at her ‘ Labour ‘ record. She was 20 years a senator never once running as a TD…. 😏

also on getting into the Aras, one of her first projects….she sacked a number of staff… looking back now it was 8….so much for Labour 🙄

she’d have never got into the Aras if it wasn’t for Brian Lenihans scandal & a huge amount of transfers from Austin Curry… Lenihan was multiple points ahead in the opinion polls and still won the general vote….despite the negative media attention.

‘Labour’ was only ever a stage for her ego, activism etc and she wanted the title of President to further both herself and her aspirations…Labour was then jettisoned when it suited her. A successful masterplan you have to say.

When people look back in time at the presidential greats, or just good presidents … her name won’t be amongst them…

little to no relatability, little to no gravitas, arrogance in spades and much of her interests just self serving and focused on issues and people outside of the state… and cashing in on the fact she was a woman which Mary McAleese never thought she had the need to do… yet McAleese was an incredibly popular two term president. She had an approval rating of over 90%…people just very much liked her.

Robinson, she hasn’t changed…. If she is elected she’ll just be almost permanently globetrotting and shooting her mouth off…marketing herself as an elected spokesperson for Ireland…. And doing even more politicking than Michael D… you’ll never hear the end of her….7 years of that ? Ehhh no thanks !

Marcos

Strumms she already is permanently globetrotting and telling the peasants of the world i.e. you and me what to do. She's part of the elders, which seems to be a body where ex presidents and others are shuffled off to, in order to make themselves feel relevant. I bet it's all expenses paid, and tax free too!

I had forgotten that one of her first acts was to sack staff in the Áras. Compare that with Mary MacAleese, one of her first acts was to invite those poor Holy Cross girls that had to make their way to school through baying mobs of loyalists who threw urine and explosives at them, and threatened their parents with death for daring to bring their kids to school via the main road.

curioser

She was never meant to be elected President - the plan was that she would come a good second to the popular Brian Lenihan (Fine Gael was in disarray and wouldn't be able to find a credible candidate) in order to provide a springboard for the next general election after which Labour hoped that she could become Minister for Justice. However Lenihan's campaign imploded and her Poloness found herself trapped in the Aras. She blamed Dick Spring for this and promptly dispatched him to New York in order to have her installed as General Secretary of the U.N. in place of Boutros Boutros Ghali (she wasn't willing to wait until his term expired). However despite the efforts of Team Robbo the mission was doomed to failure as China reminded our Foreign Minister of Mary's repeated utterings in the Seanad on the subject of Tibet which had not impressed the powers that be in Beijing. So she had to wait and stew in the Park until she was eventually offered a consolation prize in the U.N which led to her premature departure and her giving the two fingers to Mna na hEireann and the others who had put her there in the first place.

She's awesome, but no chance she'll run again. She's got more important work to do than act as a ceremonial head of state with a standing gag order from the govt

On a side note, I find it funny that some are still butthurt over her departure. It was 26 years ago, time to build a bridge and get over it

Burt Renaults

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121350365#Comment_121350365

Wait... one of Mary McAleese's first acts as president was in 2001? Considering she was elected in 1997, I could've sworn she did stuff before that.

As always, Mary Robinson winds the right people up.

hoodie6029

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121341375#Comment_121341375

She only went a few weeks early. Every single person in the world who has changed jobs at one point had done it while in another one. Whether it is an office job or political one, they are no different. They are just jobs being done by people. They’re not married to the job.

AndyBoBandy

No Thanks.

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121350365#Comment_121350365

Ohh I’m aware but at least Irish taxpayers ain’t picking up the tab..

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121348293#Comment_121348293

She ran for TD twice and came relatively close (4th in a 3 seater) in 1977

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121352557#Comment_121352557

Nice story but obvious bollox. She wasn't even a member of the Labour Party by 1990.

BENDYBINN

Ryan Tubridy is well liked by a lot of people and I'd say is almost guaranteed to be next president.

enfant terrible

Please no

Boggles

Strange someone would sign up to the site just to start a thread and ask the question and then not engage with any answers.

Makes me believe it's some sort of research or polling or something.

Anyway no chance, it will be the bould Bertie.

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121359090#Comment_121359090

Ahhhh I didn’t see that in my research….if true….. Shows what her constituents thought, told her twice in fact 😉

hoodie6029

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121359135#Comment_121359135

It would be a nice extra salary for him. And he could get rid of the car. Back to having a driver after Enda took it off him.

Duckworth_Luas

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121359135#Comment_121359135

Your unfortunate placement of the comma makes that last sentence grammatically incorrect.

You should ninja edit it as follows or you will never be taken seriously again.

"Anyway, no chance it will be the bould Bertie"

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121370561#Comment_121370561

Well no, you have changed it to reflect your opinion.

But mine was in half jest.

But still given the quality of candidate in recent elections, I could well see a sober Bertie get the vote.

He has what the modern politician doesn't, an actual personality.

And as we all know Presidential elections are just popularity contests.

Will enough time have passed so people forget the skullduggery? God knows.

Maybe MM will want a crack.

People have seemed to forgot his part in all that.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121370592#Comment_121370592

Will enough time have passed so people forget the skullduggery? God knows.

It wouldn't take much to remind people

For anyone 30 or older, they will still remember, for anyone under 30 he's a nobody as he took cover for the last decade and has barely been heard from

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121370785#Comment_121370785

Maybe.

His comeback tour has been happening for a few years now and it's rather pronounced.

Depends who he runs against I suppose.

David Cameron is back, that's a plot twist no one saw coming.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121359047#Comment_121359047

ah would you give your head a shake? President of the country is not just working in dunnes stores where you can get away with pissing off a bit early.

“Ah lads lay off Mary who hasn’t left ahead of their notice”

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121359135#Comment_121359135

If you think the OP is behaving nefariously, report it don’t speculate on thread.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121370785#Comment_121370785

I’m 28 and I wouldn’t elect him to run a fcuking bath!

It wasn’t just forgotten about because he’s gone hiding for a few years. What he did was the talk of the country and the butt of several jokes for months if not years after!

You can’t get away with anything anymore. He might try and whitewash his image but if he genuinely makes an attempt to run for president or anything with even the tiniest bit of responsibility all of the things he was done in for previously will be brought out again.

Bertie is finished and he won’t be coming back no matter how much he wants to.

magicbastarder

someone above called her 'odious'. there are a lot of people of a certain age who will laud her for her attempts to drag this country into the 20th century.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLWnoQjTNiw

notAMember

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121370847#Comment_121370847

It's a seven year term for goodness sake, a couple of weeks is negligible. If anything the fact that she called it out honestly rather than doing the juggling act others do speaks to her integrity. Who the heck even notices if higgins wakes up each day, apart from his giant hairy dogs, who are well trained to put up with his "poetry" without complaint.

This thread is just the usual boring woman-bashing. "We have enough "Mary's" ... could ye be any more unoriginal.

Irish President is beneath her abilities. Roll out the next relic in line to be the state puppet-on-a-stick.

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121370885#Comment_121370885

I’m 28 and I wouldn’t elect him to run a fcuking bath!

Yeah, but that is the age bracket that would be less likely to vote in a presidential election.

The last turnout was just below 44% percent.

Bertie is finished and he won’t be coming back no matter how much he wants to.

Maybe, but back then I never though MM would go on to lead the country nor did I think the likes of Cameron would back. Strange things happen.

Like I said, if it is another rag taggle of candidates like the previous 2 I think it is at least possible he could get the required amount of votes.

He might not even run, will depend on whether MM would relocate to the park I suppose.

I imagine Enda may be dusted off to give a FG a chance.

Although voting between him and Bertie would certainly be a choice,

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121371059#Comment_121371059

The only place Bertie is president is inside his own head.

Other than that perhaps some sort of fan club, but I don’t think he has the skills necessary to organise one and god knows he’d make himself vice president.

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121371074#Comment_121371074

At 12-1 it's probably worth a cheeky fiver.

The reality is whoever it is very few will actually care.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121371092#Comment_121371092

You’re better off tossing it into a wishing well at least you could argue that wouldn’t be a complete waste.

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121371186#Comment_121371186

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5uNnEEWii4

Rogue Pup + Ireland + Popularity contest.

12-1 is about right.

trashcan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121359254#Comment_121359254

Would he open a bank account ?

griffin100

Bertie at 12 - 1 is a great bet, especially if his main opponent is Grizzly Adams. FF mightn't be keen to support him and he might have to go the Co Co route if they don't. I'd see FF putting Miriam O'Callaghan forward before MM.

randd1

There's only one person for the job.

Fr Dick Byrne.

MrMusician18

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121370929#Comment_121370929

I don't think it would have been possible for her to hold down those two jobs at once.

I remember her saying that her early departure was one of the regrets of her presidency - so even she acknowledges it was a mistake.

hoodie6029

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121370847#Comment_121370847

We’ll have to agree to disagree. I believe that elevating the people in high profile roles to a status other than ‘someone carrying out the tasks and responsibilities of that role’ is not a good idea.

The President could die tomorrow (which has happened). There are plans and contingencies for these scenarios. Is it ideal when someone leaves certain roles? No, of course not. But if someone wants to leave a role, Chief Justice, Junior minister, deli worker, anything, let them leave. Who should have the power to make them stay? Who deserves that power over another?

Strumms

Her next birthday she’s 80. So finishing her term she’d be 87/88 give or take.

that also should be a consideration...

unfortunately there are no guarantees health wise or wellbeing wise for anyone heading into their 80’s but late 80’s….. getting around, attending the various functions, the schedule is in a way busy enough…. So…

the two weeks thing btw isn’t negligible. It’s disrespectful, behind the scenes cunning, skullduggery and dishonesty…. Job hunting, or being in negotiations for another job while you are actively head of state of a country…. Then feckîng off early when you are successful? No. Sorry…. Unacceptable and devious. At the very least … “ I want the job, I’ll accept the offer on the proviso that I stay to finish the presidency, otherwise I’m not coming, sorry.” That wouldn’t have been altogether acceptable but it would have been a lot more respectful.

but the country and its citizens was given neither consideration or olive branch of respect…. “ I’m off, got a better job I can’t wait to start, get yourself another president, that’s all there is too it “

Hotblack Desiato

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121370915#Comment_121370915

Yeah, tbh I think what she did in the 70s and 80s in the Oireachtas and in the courts is far more worthwhile than anything she did as President especially given the very restricted nature of the office.

Also it's great that William Binchy is still knocking around (saw he made a submission against assisted dying the other day) he's lived to see everything he stood for destroyed. Robinson just completely owned him in that video, everything she predicted was proven right.