Disabled parking permits

Rumy

It has nothing to do with appearances, the powers that be state that one must be unable to walk (no mobility) or blind to avail of a disabled parking permit, this doesn't include any disability which may not be visible

Ezeoul

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121165797#Comment_121165797

Incorrect. You obviously didn't research this properly.

Or at all.

Big Bag of Chips

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121165797#Comment_121165797

My aunt was not blind, and she was able to walk. Most she ever needed was to link one of us when out and about. She had a permit for years.

Rumy

There you go, she was lucky, many people refused with major health problems

Ezeoul

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121165797#Comment_121165797

Can you walk?

Rumy

Your the one who's incorrect, I've had it dictated to me in writing on exactly what was required medically. By the way less of that bad attitude, there's no need for it

looksee

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121165546#Comment_121165546

The main point about not paying the parking fee is that it saves you having to make your way over to the machine and back with the ticket, a problem if you have mobility issues.

If you have a blue badge and park in a non-wheelchair space (assuming it is accessible for a wheelchair if needed) would you have to get a ticket? It might be helpful if you did not. The mean spirited people using other people's blue badges might then park in an ordinary space and still save their €2, leaving the larger space for wheelchair users. They could be sorted out as a separate issue.

Ezeoul

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121166315#Comment_121166315

I notice you didn't answer the question so I'll take that as a yes.

Honestly, you're the only one here coming across with a bad attitude. I'm sorry your application was refused, but don't take it out on those whose applications were successful. You don't know their medical conditions.

From the DDAI site:

WHO QUALIFIES AND QUALIFYING MEDICAL CRITERIA

The medical criteria for issue of the EU parking permit are strict and only persons whose mobility is severely and permanently restricted qualify. These criteria were revised and clarified in the Department of Transport’s ‘Review of the Disabled Parking Scheme 2010’. The primary legislation for the purposes of EU parking permit defines a disabled person as:

“A person with a permanent condition or disability that severely restricts their ability to walk”

Note that "severely restricts" does not mean "can't walk".

And from the IWA website:

Origins of the Disabled Parking Permit Scheme

The Disabled Parking Permit scheme was born out of a basic necessity to maintain independence for people with limited mobility. 

"Limited mobility" does not mean "no mobility".

We're done here.

Ezeoul

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121166346#Comment_121166346

Looksee, to answer your question on parking charges, it depends. You really have to check.

If its a privately owned car park e.g. Parkrite or one of those, you will be charged for parking even with a disability badge.

I still have to pay for parking in The Square or Liffey Valley Shopping Centres, etc - and funnily enough, in a lot of hospital car parks (though some have limited free spaces).

But if parking in a regular parking space on the public road or in a local authority car park then no, not usually. You don't have to have a ticket either, just display the badge.

fits

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121156833#Comment_121156833

They don’t in Ireland. And I could do with one at times when bringing my son out as he has no sense of safety.

Rumy

You mean you're done here, I know people who don't meet the criteria you mention in any shape or form which you outlined and are in possession of a disabled parking permit.

callaway92

My god Rumy you are incredibly bitter.

Big Bag of Chips

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121166841#Comment_121166841

Well then obviously you don't have to be "unable to walk (no mobility) or blind" to get one if these people have them and seem (to you) to be perfectly able.

Apply again. With supporting documentation.

looksee

My husband had a blue badge. He could walk very short distances with difficulty, because he was on oxygen permanently. He was just, with the oxygen, able to walk from the parked car across the pavement and into the audiologist's office, with assistance, he could not manage either the car door or the office door. But, yes, he could walk.

Ginger83

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121165705#Comment_121165705

I often look at people pull up at Aldi with a permit and then walk about 1km between grabbing a trolley and around the store but I'm not a doctor. The rules when I applied stated you must be unable to walk over 50 metres unaided.

I've had my permit was inspected by a traffic warden once and another time late at night at a toll we were asked if the disabled person was in the vehicle.

Ezeoul

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121167138#Comment_121167138

The 50 meter "unaided" guide still applies, and leaning on a shopping trolley functions very much like a walking aid.

It's not that different from using a rollator for support.

For reference, 50 meters is the length of an Olympic size swimming pool).

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121165797#Comment_121165797

This is just nonsense , i know several people with mobility issues but who can walk using aids and are entitled to permits :)

vectra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121167138#Comment_121167138

That 50mts thing is a load of Boll1x

One traffic warden in my town has a blue badge.

Go figure.

Rumy

Quite true.

witchgirl26

OP part of the conditions mentions measurement of lung function. Now unless you have some superhuman abilities, you're not going to be able to tell someone's lung function just by looking at them. They really don't hand these out to just anyone & the process can be intrusive to a degree when looking for medical information and reports so I don't think there's widespread issues of people getting the badges who aren't entitled. Are some people in their families using them when the shouldn't be - well that's a different thing all together.

Stephenc66

My mother had blue badge because of reduced lung capacity and the inability to walk any great distance unaided and ultimately required the use of a wheelchair.

We as a family would driver her to her various medical appointments. In places that we knew well and say somewhere like Nenagh hospital, we would pull up and use the disabled space. Escort my mum to her appointment and leave her in the nurses care. We would then return to our car and move it to a regular space so someone else could have the use of the space. We might repeat this procedure leaving or use the set down area.

When returning to the car without my mum in her wheelchair lot of people by the look they give you assume you are not entitled to be there.

I have no doubt that a small minority might abuse a family members pass but don't judge what you don't know.

Rumy

I agree

Rumy

Your nieve, wide spread abuse

Ezeoul

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121167845#Comment_121167845

Just so you know, if you are transporting or collecting a person who is a blue badge holder (your Mum) you are allowed use a disability space, once their pass is displayed.

Stephenc66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121168604#Comment_121168604

Cheers Ezeoul thank you, and yes we would often do that as well, especially in places like St James in Dublin where it was just not practical to move or in service areas etc.

Moving the car after availing of the designated space is something we used to do where practical especially in areas of limited disability spaces and as we the drivers were able bodied could do this with out much inconvenience. Sometimes we might be parked up a couple of hours it seemed pointless tying up a space when there was no real need and others might need it more.

tayto lover

I have a problem with the use of disabled discs. I often see people parking in a disabled spot and then running to the hairdressers, shops etc. I think many people are abusing the system as the disc is not theirs but belongs to a family member who is disabled and that the disc should only be used when the disabled person is in the car.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121165162#Comment_121165162

No there is though? Pulling someone up on whether or not they have a disability because it’s not apparent to you is wrong. It’s frankly none of your damn business!

unless you’re a parking warden or a garda you should mind your own business or failing that apply to do that job or feck off!!

had a woman once mouth at me for using a disabled toilet. Have sarcoidosis in my lungs and couldn’t manage the 4 story stair ride to the toilets (elevators were off at the time cos covid).

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121169984#Comment_121169984

Actually you have a problem with the misuse of disabled badges.

Nobody in the thread is defending misuse.

People who misuse the system should be dealt with and people who genuinely need the blue badge should be supported.

Ginger83

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121170385#Comment_121170385

But this unfortunately is where you are wrong.

It is my business and the business of each and every blue badge holder!

I have a blue badge. I was medically assessed and have to pay for it. I do not ask people about their disability or if they have one so maybe you read it wrong but I do ask if they have a blue badge and if it is theirs.

Chris_5339762

All this and my mother (Parkinsons) is entitled to one but she absolutely refuses to get one.

1) Because she won't admit to it and doesn't want the label of it

2) She doesn't want to pay the fee despite being able to afford it