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Would 3k be enough to get you started on cycling accessories?

  • 18-09-2023 6:39pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,757 ✭✭✭



    A few items you might be needing


    Bicycle computer


    Helmet

    bicycle Locks

    Front lights

    Back lights

    Water bottle and cage

    Floor pump

    Spare tubes

    Spare tyres

    Mini pump

    Bike tools

    Puncture repair kit

    bike cleaning tools

    bike cleaning supplies

    wet chain lube

    dry chain lube

    Bike stand


    Rain jacket

    Rain trousers

    winter Cycling jersey

    Summer cycling jersey

    cycling socks

    cycling shoes

    Overshoes

    Padded shorts

    Padded tights

    Winter Sunglasses

    Summer sunglasses


    Car rack

    Mudguards

    Panniers

    Pannier rack

    winter gloves

    summer gloves

    Saddle bag

    Frame bag


    New Saddle

    Pedals



    Did I miss anything...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,180 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    should be well enough, under a grand would probably also get you going, but 3k should get you a good machine, with all the other bits and bobs



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,441 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    are you planning on going bikepacking, with a car? pannier bags, and saddle bag, and frame bag, and car rack?


    anyway, you don't need half those accessories just to get started.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,175 ✭✭✭T-Maxx


    Yeah that's a long list...


    If you're new to cycling don't rush out and buy loads of stuff just because. Determine your real needs, research research research and buy once.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    Buy what you need as you need it - as an example, get a winter jersey/jacket now and leave purchasing the summer one until March/April.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,540 ✭✭✭con747


    O/H got a Trek last year on the bike to work scheme, I got everything needed for leisure cycling online for less than €160, pump, spare tube, spare tyre, Kryptonite lock and cable, puncture kit, basic tool kit, 20 litre waterproof basket for the handlebars, front and rear lights, helmet with a rear multi mode light, 2 water bottles and cages, 1 spare of each cable and probably stuff I can't remember!

    I got most of it in the Amazon sales though and was in the trade a very long time ago so didn't buy crap. I also have no shortage of tools so I just bought the basic set to keep in the basket.

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,691 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    buy the summer gear now as its all on sale!

    keep your gear simple and affordable. you don't need expensive stuff just to go out and cycle.

    If starting out I wouldn't be spending a ball of money on stuff. Buy a used bike with some of the stuff listed above and see if the sport is for you.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,707 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    You also pick up bargains along the way. Aldi have a bike special coming up next week where you can get a few essentials for cheap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭f1000


    ..

    Post edited by f1000 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,513 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    That's a long list, with a lot of stuff you won't necessarily need.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    Valid point about summer gear being on sale at this time of year. Some good bargains to be had for sure

    But as the OP is just starting out, there’s a possibility that they may decide that cycling is not for them (mad I know but it does happen) and then there’s a heap of summer gear and money wasted.

    Buy what’s needed is what I’d do.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 963 ✭✭✭nicksnikita




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭cletus


    Spare bell, in case the first one stops working?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,691 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    In that situation, coming into winter is the worst time of year to start into cycling. Way more gear needed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,997 ✭✭✭68 lost souls


    I have never used Rain trousers in ten or so years of cycling so that's one item out, I was cycling for years before getting a bike computer that's a big saving there, plenty of apps to get you started on the phone but also if needed you can pickup a cheaper second hand one. No need to keep a stock of spare tyres. No need to for sperate wet and dry lube. No need for separate winter and summer sunglasses. Chances are all the racks and bags aren't needed unless bike packing or commuting and at that not all are needed. Easily a grand saved there



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,441 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    also, new saddle?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,561 ✭✭✭blackbox


    If you're starting out, at 3000 euro I'd expect the bike to be included in the list.



  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭mmrs


    Helmet, lock, lights, bell, shoes and pedals if you'll be clipping in, bib shorts & jersey, chamois creme, rain jacket and some spare tubes. Pick up the rest as you go. You'll develop a better idea of what you want as you get into the sport.

    It's easy to get carried away, I bought rain trousers I hate and overshoes which were more of a pain than they were worth. Arm covers too, what a waste for me. But you may decide you'd like these things.

    If you buy it all at the beginning you'll be denying yourself hours of online fantasy shopping for new accessories :)



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,441 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i've never used chamois cream.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭cletus


    Nor me.


    I'm not sure how serious the op was with the list.


    It's the same poster who made the "Cycling faster to negate air pollution" thread, or whatever it was



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,947 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    This has to be a joke. Are we talking getting started on cycling to work? Cycling as a hobby? Racing? Mountain Biking?

    Can't take this poster seriously after reading their other posts.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭Cetyl Palmitate


    Seems more like a list to start a cycling accessories shop



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,278 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    I've revised your essential list..

    I'm assuming you don't have a bike already? This is just to get you started. Add to it later as you go along.

    Bike.

    bicycle Lock

    Front lights

    Back lights

    Water bottle and cage

    Floor pump

    Spare tube

    Mini pump

    Puncture repair kit

    bike cleaning supplies? (Degreaser and Fairy liquid!)

    Wet chain lube


    Rain jacket

    winter Cycling jersey

    cycling shoes

    Overshoes

    Padded tights

    Winter glasses / Photochromatic lens

    winter gloves

    Saddle bag - (Optional)

    Pedals



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,175 ✭✭✭T-Maxx


    Yeah we've been trolled...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 963 ✭✭✭nicksnikita




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,022 ✭✭✭✭billyhead




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    If you start in the winter and stick with it then summer will see you hooked.



  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭mmrs


    I guess GCN convinced me of that one. I'll give it go without it next time!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,757 ✭✭✭sxt


    That's how I priced it up, and that was for mid range gear . Nearly all of that gear would be considered necessary for most people if you cycle alot . 3k would be conservative estimate as well. You could spend double that on decent gear

    A bike computer isn't essential but is probably the most worthwhile accesory to have



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,744 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    I suspect the point of the post is to 'prove' that cycling is out of reach for the ordinary worker.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,800 ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    You could spend 10% or less too on decent gear too



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,328 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    I rode for years in jeans and a t shirt, commuted to work, social events, then college and the only bike essentials I had to buy were a lock and lights.

    So yes, it's case dependent but you can pick up a bike and 'essentials' for very little. Anyone pushing the idea it's out of reach is either a snob or ignorant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭Mr. Cats


    It’s a bit like asking, would 3k be enough to buy all the gear I need for a walk in the countryside? For sure you could buy the best of rainproof gear, boots, navigation system/watch, base layers, walking sticks, fancy water bottles, hiking packs, food containers, etc etc & burn through 3k fairly fast. There’s no end to what you could spend.

    On the other hand you could just grab the trainers and jacket you already have and head out.

    Later if you think it’s worthwhile for you to spend an extra €10/50/100 or whatever on nicer/more comfortable/better performing boots or jacket or anything else by all means go ahead.

    The point is you don’t ‘need’ any of it to go for a walk.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,441 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    just for the laugh, and i know i should not be humouring nonsense, but here's a sample estimate. and i binned the car rack and new saddle as things 'needed to get you started cycling'.

    it's also assuming you're buying new.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,732 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Genuinely, what is this for? Are you writing a newspaper article.

    I cycle every day of the year. Ive spent maybe 600 on accessories, and would have a lot of the items you mention. Helmet is the most expensive part of that. LIDL sales do accessories for next to nothing. Not by a long shot are all of these 'necessary'. EG Bike Computer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,732 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    The other thing is - these are long lasting items. If I buy a Rapha jersey for 80 or 90 (sale price) - it will last me 5 years. Likewise a saddle bag or a pump or whatever.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 963 ✭✭✭nicksnikita




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,757 ✭✭✭sxt


    That is the price if you were shopping in lidl or Aldi on absolute rock bottom prices. The value in buying mid price gear is that it lasts more than a season. That's the minimum you should be paying!

    Aldi/lidl are great for offering cycling gear at fair prices.Some of the gear in lidl/aldi can be good quality too but the vast majority of it is absolute junk that has to be discarde!. The dictum buy cheap buy twice applies here!

    Who buys a 30 euro lock and I'm being serious...

    100 euro bike computer?.If you have a genuine interest in this technology, you need to pay alot more.A mid range garmin 530 from 2019 is 300 euro!

    Rain gear for 50 euros is not realistic for any sort of value for performance

    All the cycling clothing you listed is unrealistic for any sort of quality/value for performance. Sunglasses for 20 euro...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭cletus


    I wear €2 sunglasses. My good pair cost me a tenner.


    Anyway, have you noting better to do on a Saturday night?



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,707 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Anyway, have you noting better to do on a Saturday night?

    Erm, it's Friday! 😎



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭cletus


    Yeah, well, have you nothing better to do on a Friday night 😂



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,328 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    My Aldi lights are now close to 5 years old and are on par with mid to high level lezynes that sell for 100euro, I got a set for 20euro. Most of their stuff is more than adequate. I have always found their stuff to be mid tier, LIDL typically a bit worse , clothing is both their weak spots but usable.

    The thread asks, would 3k be enough to get you started (with no clarity on in what context, commuting, sunday spins, audaxes, racing etc) on cycling accessories. The answer is yes, more than enough by a long shot. For most cyclists that 3k will include the bike as well.

    With no effort:

    Bike - decent ones here and adverts for under 1.5k

    Lights - Aldi ones are decent - frequently pick up a set for sub 30euro

    Lock - I would be looking at 200euro here

    Clothes - MTB Shorts, decent socks and technical t shirt (200euro max) or DHB or local sales for bib shorts and jersey (again 200 is way over)

    Shoes - From runners to SPDs to 3 bolt, you will get decent ones at under 200

    Helmet - if you want - cracking one on CRC for 50euro in bargain alerts at the minute, they also sell a decent full face from Brand X for 50 as well

    So 2.2k (and that isn't bargain hunting) for any type of cycling you chose, MTB, commuting, racing, etc.

    Leaves 800 bills for your computer that you don't technically need


    With very little effort I could probably achieve the same for under 2k

    Bike - seen a few worthy ones for under 1k

    Lights - 30euro

    Lock - Get a Kryptonite set on sale all the time for 100euro

    Clothes - MTB Shorts (Endura 60), decent socks(10)and technical t shirt(50) (120) or DHB bibs and jersey (100) plus socks(10)

    Shoes - From runners to SPDs to 3 bolt loads at sub 100 on cycling sites

    Helmet - 50 euro

    Down to 1400 with no effort and and Edge 130 for 130, so €1530 including bike


    With a bit of effort:

    Bike - seen a vintage steel race steed on adverts in VGC for under €400

    Lights - 30euro

    Lock - Get a Kryptonite set on sale all the time for 100euro (I won't go lower than this)

    Clothes - MTB Shorts (Endura 60), decent socks(10)and technical t shirt(50) (120) or DHB bibs and jersey (100) plus socks(10)

    Shoes - From runners to SPDs to 3 bolt loads at sub 100 on cycling sites

    Helmet - 50 euro

    With the edge 130 or a Wahoo ELMNT Roam, about a grand.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,707 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I'm married with kids - of course I've nothing better to do than sit reading boards!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭cletus




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,328 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Well that's 3 of us



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 963 ✭✭✭nicksnikita




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,441 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Remind me what the phrase 'getting you started' means. I got back cycling ten years ago or so and the grand total I've spent on cycling computers in that time is €45. The only reason I might be upgrading now is I've lost the damn thing.

    As has been mentioned above, you never specified what sort of cycling but seem to have listed eventualities for them all.

    Anyway, you said 3k which implied you'd worked out the figures; where are your workings?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,744 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Do you actually NEED a cycling computer though? I hear unconfirmed rumours that the bike will actually move without a computer attached, and you can use apps on your phone to track your route.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,441 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    You do need one. A phone at least. If it's not on Strava, your cycle did not happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭cletus


    I'll be honest, I think the op's estimate is a touch conservative.

    First of all, it's only allowing for one bike. We all know you need more than one bike.

    Secondly, now that you've got two bikes, you need two new sets of wheels. We all know stock wheels are no good, so two new sets of deep rim carbon wheels.

    Next, obviously you're not putting the stock tyres on new rims, so two new sets of René Herse's best, please.

    Now, it's time to get your bikes on the scales. How much do they weigh? Doesn't matter, they're too heavy.

    Time for carbon everything... everything. Carbon bottle cages, carbon pedals, carbon spacers (maybe not spacers, your handlebars should be slammed. Slammed, I tell you).

    Now that your bike is sorted, it's time for clothes. Forget Lidl, forget Aldi, forget Galibier, forget DHB. If your clothes don't say Rapha, they won't work.

    Despite @AndrewJRenko's assertion that you don't need a bicycle computer (he's only a commuter, what would he know), you need to listen to @magicbastarder, if it's not on Strava, it didn't happen. Therefore you need a Garmin (or a Wahoo, if you're running SRAM on your multiple bikes). I'd recommend the Garmin 1040 Solar. Not because we get enough sunshine in Ireland for it to be of benefit, but because it's the most expensive, and we all know that's the most important thing.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,707 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Secondly, now that you've got two bikes...

    You seem to be forgetting that you now need another bike!



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