A pint of Guinness and a bottle of Heineken: €11.80

Bricriu · 05-09-2023 8:18pm #1

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I visited Dublin from Connemara last Friday and went to a pub in Killester.

I ordered a pint of Guinness and a bottle of Heineken.

Cost: €11.80; to say I was shocked is an understatement. This is robbery - no other words describe it. It is also unsustainable for the customer. I won't be back. I haven't had a pay rise since the early noughties.

This anti-Irish, evil government, with its high tax on alcohol, is either trying to make us all emigrate or to have us stay at home to watch the Late Late Show so that we get brain-rot and end up as zombies. The pubs are also getting their cut, of course. And don't lecture me about Temple Bar - it is a corrupt area that fleeces dumb tourists.

Pubs, especially in rural areas are closing one after the other. I remember when the drink-driving law was changed to reduce alcohol amounts while driving, the politicians were on radio promising to introduce a mini-bus service to get customers home from the pub. As usual with scum politicians' promises - no service was set up - anywhere - as far as I know.

Rural Ireland is dying rapidly, with the old, especially, staying at home because they can't get home at closing time, with depression and loneliness being huge problems.

Incidentally, I was not given a receipt in Killester. Embarasment on the part of the pub?

L1011 · 05-09-2023 8:27pm

There's rather a lot to go through here:

Tax on alcohol hasn't gone up in about a decade - price rises of late are down primarily to the big three breweries who have ratcheted prices, while making record profits.
If you haven't had a pay rise in ~20 years, you need to change employer or career. The minimum wage has gone up from €6.35 20 years ago to €11.30 now. In 2007 I was earning less than half of what I am now for roughly the same job.
Hideously, €11.80 is pretty cheap for a Guinness and a bottle of Heineken in Dublin. I wouldn't be surprised to see closer to €13. Bottled beers are massively overpriced in pubs
Rural pubs will be cheaper than Dublin so I'm not sure how they're relevant to your Dublin price
Pubs don't generally issue receipts unless you ask for it.

Xander10 · 05-09-2023 8:30pm

I was assuming it was €11.80 each

Pretty standard that

fritzelly · 05-09-2023 8:39pm

Don't go to Temple Bar whatever you do!

elperello · 05-09-2023 9:43pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058312447/a-pint-of-guinness-and-a-bottle-of-heineken-11-80

That price is about right.

You went in and ordered the drinks.

No robbery involved.

Murph85 · 05-09-2023 10:08pm

"The minimum wage has gone up from €6.35 20 years ago to €11.30"

Relatively the minimum wage twenty years ago , probably gave you way more purchasing power...

Jim_Hodge · 05-09-2023 10:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074329#Comment_121074329

What has that to do with the point that minimum wage has risen while the OP maintains he hasn't had a rise in 20 years?

Thespoofer · 05-09-2023 10:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058312447/a-pint-of-guinness-and-a-bottle-of-heineken-11-80

While we're on the subject of rip off, have you seen the price of these Connemara socks ?

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RurtBeynolds · 05-09-2023 10:29pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074342#Comment_121074342

Maybe the op wasn't on minimum wage?

kippy · 05-09-2023 10:31pm

Pubs are essentially dying out for numerous reasons - outside of busy city centres they are done and this is one of the reasons why. It's also a hellish "career" for rural pupowners with the younger people not wanting to take on pubs these days.

Jim_Hodge · 06-09-2023 2:01pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074432#Comment_121074432

Nobody said he was. Maybe read the posts again, 🙄

Bricriu · 06-09-2023 2:22pm

Poster here: I wasn't on the minimum wage. I retired on a fairly good salary in 2010, having not had a pay rise in several years, and received a non-state pension; that pension has not risen since, and I'm still paying the dreaded USC that was used to bail-out gamblers in banks.

But, Jaysus, lads, some of you seem to be be very accepting of high prices! Are you members of political parties or supporters of same?

A lot of the public have been taking it in the rear-end for years, and all they do is cry into their pints as they end up being screwed.

elperello · 06-09-2023 4:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121076503#Comment_121076503

It's not a question of being accepting of high prices or political supporters.

The simple truth is that's what a pint of stout and a bottle of Heineken in a pub in a fairly salubrious suburb of Dublin costs.

It's not a rip off.

cap.in.hand. · 06-09-2023 9:16pm

I'd question how much the bottle of Heineken was..that's usually a rip off in pubs whatever about a pint of Guinness

Markus Antonius · 07-09-2023 2:52pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121076503#Comment_121076503

There are a lot of FF-FG-SF shillbots on boards...

sydthebeat · 07-09-2023 3:03pm

You'd have been better off buying a pint of Guinness and a glass of Heineken.

Would have cost you about €2.50 less for pretty much the same product.

downtheroad · 07-09-2023 3:13pm

You leave The Beachcomber alone. Good thing you didn't walk down to Harry Byrne's, would have been more than €12

lalababa · 07-09-2023 3:29pm

The cost to do stuff in Ireland is very high. The 4 big ticket items (usually) house, car, rent, entertainment are way above many EU countries, and these big items have an knock on effect on everything else. The causes are red tape regulations , insurance, taxes, and the 'Catholic irish' attitude to spending and economising.

We really are being sold a tale when a private individual or council can't get a house built for less than 300k.

As regards drinks in pubs n restaurants, that's another tale of cultural woe. I can order beer ingredients and make a good pint at home for 20cents in a 10L batch. Imagine what a pint costs when they're making batches of 200,000 pints?

Jim_Hodge · 07-09-2023 3:50pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121081141#Comment_121081141

You can't reasonably compare home brewing costs. Consider Energy, Excise duty, vat, manufacturing labour, distribution, retail rates, labour, and a required profit margin at all stages. I'm not saying beer is good value but the comparison is worthless.

waterwelly · 07-09-2023 4:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121076503#Comment_121076503

No rip off at all here. Just naiveity on your part.

Staff wages are quite high in Dublin, all Ng with higher rates, insurance, security etc.etc.

Nothing wrong with those prices at all.

tayto lover · 07-09-2023 4:32pm

anyone know why the pubs don't sell Tuberg anymore? It was a lovely lager and cheap too.

waterwelly · 07-09-2023 4:37pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121081441#Comment_121081441

Because it tends to attract the wrong type of client. Suited to places that have a bookies next door and do well on dole day.

Lads that might be into cocaine, insurance claims and fighting will drink it.

Better off going for the premium part of the market. A woman drinking G+T is worth 3 Tuborg drinkers.

So they block a lot of seats too.

tayto lover · 07-09-2023 9:43pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121081476#Comment_121081476

If that's the case then they might be glad of that type of client in the future. My mates used to drink it and they wouldn't know what cocaine was and don't bet either. I think you have it very wrong.

Doodah7 · 08-09-2023 1:33pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121081441#Comment_121081441

Because it's awful??

Dav010 · 08-09-2023 1:43pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121081441#Comment_121081441

Because it tastes like piss, and there isn’t much of a market for beer that tastes like piss, even if it’s cheap.

rubadub · 11-10-2023 10:17pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121085005#Comment_121085005

what has that got to do with anything? pubs are full of beers that many describe as awful, be it guinness, budweiser, heineken, carlsberg, the list goes on...

arsebiscuits82 · 11-10-2023 10:27pm

I live in Cork and was up home in Donegal recently.

I can't understand how a pint of Heineken brewed in cork, and delivered to Donegal is €4.90 whereas it’s €5.70 less than 20 miles from where it’s produced.