Johnny Glynn

Seadin

Anyone see the incident that occurred today between Johnny Glynn and the number 2 in the Sarsfields and Ardrahan Galway club championship game? I don't know what Glynn was thinking but he could be in a bit of bother in the next few days. He almost strangled the no.2 in an off the ball incident. No place for MMA in a hurling game. I would imagine there will be more on this. It was nasty and no place for it on a hurling field.

evolvingtipperary101

Johnny had built up such goodwill with the New York story and interviews over the last few years. Destroyed it all today in a moment of madness. Choking someone to the point of distress is chilling. A dark take might be, he's getting away with that on the American scene and forgot Tg4 had cameras at this game. Why would he do that to someone? There's no defending it. It was definitely a form of arm triangle - designed to cut off air flow. The corner back was in a panic. That can't be overlooked. Have heard County board and Galway selectors have been chatting to him but, Jesus, they can't over look that today...

Happyilylost

1. Phenomenal game

2. Shocking choke. Never ever seen the likes of it before.

3. Galway County board and getting things right..... Wouldn't hold my breath.

bucketybuck

The GAA as a whole trains and encourages players to go out and do whatever unsavoury shite they can get away with to their opponent.

Bit rich to complain when the players do what they are told.

keeponhurling

Totally agree

in any other sport that’s a definite red card, no discussion needed. It’s a violent attack off the ball !

Only in GAA could commentators be saying a yellow is enough, or yerra there were 2 of them at it. Change in mindset needed.

Green&Red

It's shocking that your man is tapping out and Glynn keeps going. Whatever the longest ban possible should be given here

brokenbad

Absolute scumbag behaviour from Glynn - if that happened on the street he would be looking at jail time, but he will get away with it because the Galway County Board will protect him from any major sanctions.

SqueakyKneecap

Glynn has gone down in my estimation and deserves a nice ban for that. I can tolerate plenty of messing on the pitch but choking is absolute cowardice and could go very badly wrong if lads get carried away.

A real shame too because he still had enough to be playing intercounty, if the rumours were to be believed.

fire_man

It was a shocking incident. Long ban now for Mr.Glynn.

Motivator

A fairly shocking incident, but not exactly shocking to see who the culprit is. What would expect from a pig only a grunt? He’s been acting the bully boy long enough now and getting away with things, granted nothing any way as serious as what happened yesterday, for too long.

If the Galway Co. Board have any cop on they need to act, I wouldn’t hold my breath though. That was worse than any stroke pulled over the years to be honest.

MfMan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121067555#Comment_121067555

What are you on about? What other incidents has he been involved in?

MacDanger

Just saw the video now, that's as bizzare an incident as you'll see on a sports field - strange that it hasn't been picked up much by the media, bigger deals have been made of far lesser incidents. Hard to see there being any mitigating factors for something like that and assuming there's not, you'd hope he gets a sizeable ban

brokenbad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121071068#Comment_121071068

Galway County Board trying to keep a lid on it and sort the issue "in-house" i would imagine. Having an All-Ireland winner behaving in such a manner is not a good look for them, Be interesting to see how they deal with the situation.....

SqueakyKneecap

There's a few things to note here:

He isn't officially part of the intercounty setup yet. My understanding is he's still intending on staying in New York this year so he could we take a ban under the table and only miss a couple of championship matches as Ardrahan are safe and unlikely to go beyond a Quarter Final realistically. That's if the county board want matters to remain private.

In my own opinion they should make it as transparent as possible and set an example. We're never going to completely cut out acts of dirt but we have to draw a line at choking. There's probably more goodwill for the county board in the past couple of years than there has been in a couple of decades but something like this would paint them in an unflattering light.

brokenbad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121071504#Comment_121071504

It's a major headache for the County Board on how to deal with this.

A criminal conviction - if pursued could have major implications regarding his return to NYC.

Remember what happened Diarmuid Connolly with his visa "issues" which prevented him from travelling to USA a few years back......

PeggyShippen

Terribke incident. He should get year. Funny thing about Glynn is he never really used his physical attributes. Terrible against Mike Casey in 2018. I always felt Glynn was a country bumpkin especially after his celebrated foul language on TV. And zero aggression really when it counted. This incident confirms all those misgivings for me. A bad attempt at choking a guy prone on the ground and defenceless. I wouldnt like my daughter bringing that bogman home

celt262

Sure what's going to happen as far as i can see a two game ban is the most that can be handed down under the rules as they stand.

Please correct me if i'm wrong.

CuriousCucumber

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121071504#Comment_121071504

"We're never going to completely cut out acts of dirt but..."

Sorry, but what? This doesn't happen in other sports. Why is it accepted.

As a passing, fair weather fan of GAA, it seems to me, to accept absolute thuggery.

You see it so often, when teams run down the tunnel together, or when a sub comes on, and immediately leathers his marker.

There are loads of absolutely wonderful, skillful gaa players. The game should focus on them, and letting them shine. Not some brain dead thugs, who just want to use their physicality to try to level the playing field.

The only other sport that I am aware of, where this seems to be accepted, is Aussie Rules, and I dont know if that's still the case.

brokenbad

One good example - remember Tadhg Kennelly's pre-meditated and dangerous shoulder charge on Nicholas Murphy's head just seconds after throw in during the 2009 All Ireland Final between Cork and Kerry? He should have walked for that one but got away with it.....

Seadin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121073122#Comment_121073122

And gloated about it too in his book.

Seadin

Remember guys Paul Galvin got an eight week ban for hitting the book out of the referees hand and in fairness that was very mild and harmless compared to what Glynn did at the club game at the weekend. But again there is one rule for one man and nothing for the other as of yet.

Feisar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121065929#Comment_121065929

Didn't look like like an arm triangle, he just used his thumb and index/forefinger to cut of the air supply.

SqueakyKneecap

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121072962#Comment_121072962

In my time playing the likes of soccer and rugby (at low amateur levels around the country) I've seen deliberate leg breakers, players getting jaws/noses/eye sockets broken, gouging and dozens of punch-ups. That's not to condone any of those acts but you're being deliberately obtuse if you think GAA is the only organisation in Ireland facing thuggery.

Were you slating a lad like Dominic Robertson McCoy when he deliberate stood on Josh van der Flier's head a few years back in the Sportsground for Connacht-Leinster, for example? Were you critical of the Columbia women's team when they kicked lumps out of our women's soccer team in a match that was eventually abandoned a few weeks back?

Once again, Glynn should get a long ban and I hate seeing this in any sport, but filth and thuggery happen in plenty of other sports. Singling this out as exclusive to GAA is a very head-in-the-sand argument.

awaywithyou

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121073205#Comment_121073205

paul galvin got 6mths for knocking the book out of the refs hand... it was reduced to 3 on appeal.... he got 8wks for sticking his finger in eoin cadogans mouth..... why he got 8wks for that no one knows... a joke.. unfortunately his reputation at the time didnt help....

on Johnny glynn.... whatever about the choking incident.. what disappointed me more was the lack of help from the corner backs teammates.... glynn should have been smashed to pieces...

MfMan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121072366#Comment_121072366

Oh for heaven's sake, now he's being judged on his comportment! He only F-bombed once on TV, like a good few have done since. What are you expecting all GAA players to conform to - Oxford post-grads or something? The 'bogman' moved to NY as a young man and through hard work has established his own successful business over there; would that not be a good prospect for your daughter? Why pick on a single match to make a point? Nothing wrong with his performances in 2015 v. Cork, 2018 replay v KK, 2018 replay v Clare in 2018 (all in Thurles), where he used his physique to good effect.

evolvingtipperary101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121073285#Comment_121073285

Glynn is pushing the head up towards him to cut off airflow with the hurley/hand behind the head while choking with the other. He didn't have to work any complex position like a captain's hook because he is choking a someone who is not trained:

https://youtu.be/Y9lGwUUVKds?si=lS73IUKAW6Za_sFq&t=40

Feisar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074219#Comment_121074219

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gla3uS7oRcQ

I missed the hurl/hand on my first view and put it down to a simple choke but you are right. I noted those he kept close, keeping chest pressure while applying although his hips are high. Suggesting some training but not a whole lot.

Seadin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074208#Comment_121074208

I say that they didn't know how serious it was until afterwards.

Seadin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074208#Comment_121074208

I mixed up the incidents with Galvin. You are spot on.

dazza181

Is there any benefit of a thread like this? Seems just a platform for abuse. An awful act which I'm sure he regrets and the country board will deal with but I don't like to see an amateur sports player getting called all sorts online.

Feisar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074587#Comment_121074587

If it was an unknown down the town of a sat night it'd get the same exposure. Don't think a jersey should protect scummy behaviour.

Edit - maybe the GAA forum is the wrong place, there's a feral youths thread in current affairs that might suit this assault better.

kippy

Set an example. Lifetime ban required. There's plenty younger lads in the club would be delighted to take his place.

kippy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074587#Comment_121074587

The issue is relatively simple..if this happened on the street he would be up on criminal charges...

It needs to be treated in the strongest of manners.

dazza181

I don't think they would get the same exposure. Im sure there's loads of bad acts in every country every weekend but I don't see threads on boards with just lads full names being called scum, feral etc.

kippy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074655#Comment_121074655

I am sure there are and those acts should be treated consistently

dazza181

Yes I 100% agree that it needs to be treated in the strongest of matters and I'm sure he'll get a long ban but I just don't like this sort of thread where a lad will just get abused.

kippy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074669#Comment_121074669

Sticks and stones will break your bones but names will never hurt you.

You feel sorry for a guy who physically assaulted someone?

How about feeling sorry for the victim.

dazza181

Sticks and stones....

https://www.irishcentral.com/opinion/others/irish-immigrants-suicide-exposes-all-thats-wrong-with-online-media

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074655#Comment_121074655

Show me somebody choking out an innocent man on the street on a Saturday night and I will show you a feral scumbag who should be arrested.

kippy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074691#Comment_121074691

Are you suggesting that this guy committed suicide because of what he was called in the media?

I don't really know why people take their own lives, but I doubt very much it's a single factor but based on mental illness of one form or another taking place over time.

I'd probably suggest the attitude that sticks and stones will break your bones but names will never hurt you is a good one to live by....

Again, this level of violence should have no place in the GAA or any sport for that matter.

CuriousCucumber

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121073309#Comment_121073309

Were not talking about lower levels for other sports though, are we? This was a televised game, and the perpetrator is an All Ireland winner.

Dominic Robertson McCoy got a 12 week ban, and hasn't done anything similar since

Roy Keane got 8 matches for his tackle on Haaland.

Both sports are making, and have made huge efforts to protect players.

GAA doesn't look to be making any effort to rid the game of this pointless machoism, and thuggery

evolvingtipperary101

Also, it has to be said, these types of chokes are illegal in mma. That’s how dangerous they are. Rear chokes and side chokes with arm are allowed. Even then you release on tapping. But just straight choking someone and pulling their head forward as a double choke (cutting off blood flow to the brain)… and not releasing on the taps… really scary stuff for someone. A fighter may not gouge their fingers or thumb into their opponent's neck or trachea in an attempt to submit their opponent.

SqueakyKneecap

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074919#Comment_121074919

We're moving the goalposts a bit here. With regards to rugby just because they're sanctioning the likes of reckless clear-outs in the ruck doesn't mean they've been reduced. There's always going to be dirty acts committed so long as sports are full contact. Your point was that GAA exclusively is where dangerous acts occur. That's just not true and comes across as somebody with a bone to pick with GAA.

I do however agree not enough is being done in GAA and we're also at a point where potential referees are understandably walking away from the game because of abuse. That's absolute just criticism and it's far too often that appeals for dirty acts that do get awarded bans are overturned anyways.

CuriousCucumber

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121076196#Comment_121076196

No, my point was that GAA is a dirty sport, and is making any effort to clean itself up. It seems to actively encourage it.

All other main stream sports are trying to make themselves safer, and better role models for young fans.

Every sport has risks attached to them, as every sport has humans taking part. People can have moments of rage, and do something extremely dangerous.

The GAA should be out in front of this story, and investigating it. As far as I can tell from online outlets, it's up to the Galway GCC to decide if further punishment is required. That's crazy. If the GAA wanted to clean themselves up, they'd have an independent board review all of these issues of violence, and suspending players/coaches/fans. Until that happens, the sport will remain a dirty sport

Treble double

As someone said above where were your man's team mates, Glynn should have been cleaned out by whatever means possible and it would have been a better lesson than any ban.

Seadin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121074587#Comment_121074587

This is a discussion thread and is gaa related so yes there is a benefit for discussion.

threeball

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121076470#Comment_121076470

I agree and the refs have a lot of answer for as it permeates right down to underage. This year alone I've witnessed 3 "tackles" (better described as assaults) on underage players where the only intention was to hurt the opposing player and the ref didn't even issue a card. Its basically condoning the intention to hurt opposition players and giving a green light for it to continue. An officials primary job when he takes the field is the protection of the participants, but most seem more interested calling for steps than dealing with assaults.

Happyilylost

One game ban.

callaway92

Such a lame sport at times. 1 game for a seriously dangerous thing to do

brokenbad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121101119#Comment_121101119

Reduced to a "caution" on appeal.....

SqueakyKneecap

That's absolutely bollocks. Ardrahan will likely be out of championship anyways but even by optics they've completely weaseled out of making a tough call.