Why does the rest of the country dislike Dublin so much?

Relax brah

Its a broad statement yes and of course not all culchies feel this way but yesterday I had a strange experience.

I was in butlers on grafton street ordering a coffee when some random drunken Kerry man turned to me and said;

“flat white? you f**king dubs have serious notions.”

I really don’t get it.

A lot of Jackeens have more in common with the folks of Manchester, Birmingham and Liverpool than they do the Native Gael.

coolbeans

It's full of skangers and entitled rugger bugger types with no manners. The city centre is a half derelict hole that's seems to have been overtaken by truly feral youth. Used to love the place but unless you're on 500k and can insulate yourself from all that then you're better off elsewhere.

L.Ball

Because it's a sh*thole and the people running the country into the ground are all based here.

ZookeeperDub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120922300#Comment_120922300

No they don't and Im not from Dublin or live in it.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120922321#Comment_120922321

Hooliganism at LoI games, being loud and obnoxious on package holidays, Mrs Brown’s Boys, shopping in Iceland, Superking cigarettes, neck tattoos etc etc.

ejmaztec

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058307388/why-does-the-rest-of-the-country-dislike-dublin-so-much

It may surprise you but Kerry men aren't the only ones with a wicked sense of humour. 😜

Hungry Burger

I like Dublin but anytime I visit I get the impression the posh types float around thinking they live in an American television show set in California and the rough types all think they live a Conor McGregor lifestyle despite the fact half of them are on the dole.

ZookeeperDub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120922348#Comment_120922348

Imagine neck tattoo's...shocking.

Honestly I was expecting something else, not sure what but this is beyond ridiculous response. Package holidays :-)

P.S. LoI is all over Ireland....

SteM

A flat white ffs He's right, you do have notions.

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058307388/why-does-the-rest-of-the-country-dislike-dublin-so-much

Most of them don't hate you at all but you aren't doing yourself any favours with the tired old "culchies" slur.

nachouser

Drunk or not, no-one from Kerry would use the word notions.

oceanman

jealousy.....

Spanish Eyes

Most of the people running the city are not native Dubs, therefore they have no interest in making the city better, and are delighted that the boggers hate it too. Justifies their positions.

fly_agaric

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120922311#Comment_120922311

Ha, first is subjective to an extent (!) but the second part of that is one aspect I find very unfair about the whole jackeens vs boggers/culchies nonsense.

Yeah the govt. are based in Dublin but it is very much IMO a rural govt. for a rural people (which is fair enough, how could it be otherwise in a democracy with a PR voting system). Why does "Dublin" get blamed for its decisions?

TDs may be responsive to constituents etc. and pay attention to what is going on locally, but there's really no proper local/regional govt. in Ireland. Dublin itself has no political power of its own (no region does). The govt. has IMO deliberately stimied that in Dublin in particular as it would be a competing powerbase to central govt. because of the population size/economic importance of the region.

The govt. doesn't really give much of an indication of (a special) interest in welfare of Dublin beyond it serving as the cash cow for milking (MNC hub, tourism centre etc.) with the goal always to get the best return...as much juice out for as little feed in as possible. I just don't see all the favouritism/bias they are reputed to show to Dublin vs the rest of the country.

buried

So a drunken man from the country was in a Butlers coffee shop?

This doesn't sound very likely at all at all.

What the f**k was he ordering? A map on how to get to the 200 pubs all around grafton street?

Shoog

No real characture to the city to make it worthwhile even visiting. Cannot think of a single good reason to go there.

Galwayguy35

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120922430#Comment_120922430

Well when there was native Dubs running things it didn't really go that well either, Charlie Haughey and Bertie come to mind.

Relax brah

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120922422#Comment_120922422

They are happy to relocate and work up here yet hate the place at the same time. Miserable culchies

Some parts of Dublin - maybe 15-20% of it is fine, and us sons and daughters of the soil are happy to live there (Close to a DART station with a few obvious exceptions is a good rule of thumb). Get involved in the GAA, golf club, local politics etc. The rest of it can be left to the natives though.

StevenToast

Whats a "Flat white"?

Spanish Eyes

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120922513#Comment_120922513

The Government runs the country. Dublin City Council runs the city and the Garda Commissioner decides on Dublin policing. Department of Health/HSE/Quango run the drug clinics. Now I doubt any of the managers of the above (and more) entities live anywhere near the badlands of Dublin. QED.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120922561#Comment_120922561

It’s a coffee, Stevo. It’s pretty much a bad-value Latte.

Galwayguy35

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120922519#Comment_120922519

Bus loads of unvetted economic migrants arriving every week and you are worried about culchies.

StevenToast

I have a friend who was in a Rural Kerry pub and asked for a "Latte"....he was correctly ridiculed and will be for the rest of his life...

Know your place....

buried

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120922571#Comment_120922571

Ahh yeah but all them lads are doctors and engineers G, the culchies are nothing but lost drunks befouling Butlers coffee shops

shesty

As a Dub - I'd be more than happy to spread the housing/jobs/investment round.Be nice to have the option to be able to afford to live near my parents (not D4 - way out in the North suburbs), but that's out of the question for most Dubs.

A large chunk of the population of Dublin are from outside Dublin so the whole thing is ridiculous.

I think some local politicians in the country feed the "them up in Dublin" line to get support.It's detrimental to places outside Dublin, causes friction when the energy would be better spent building a good relation and putting their case forward for investment.

It's all nonsense otherwise.

YellowLead

I think it’s an inferiority complex

I think that it's a great city with an atmosphere all of its own!

Terrific people, the Dubs!

ZookeeperDub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120922469#Comment_120922469

He was up in Brown Thomas to pick up a new handbag and dropped into Bewleys for a cuppa tea mid session

Ten of Swords

Mod - Take this to the immigration threads, don't clog this one up with it.

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Sounds like you met one of those morons who thinks they’re funny.

I’m from Dublin, but also have lived in Cork and a few other places for long periods and you get it in both directions.

I’ve had Cork swipes at Dublin and I’ve had Dublin swipes at Cork, mostly tongue in cheek but sometimes it goes too far.

I had a teacher in Cork City, but he was from Waterford, who used to call me a “Dublin scumbag” as a mode of address, and I’ve been told to “get that culchie car out of Dublin” in both cases, by people who are sad pr1cks who think they’re hilarious but are about as funny as a dose of the trots.

buried

Damn right you get it both directions. The whole manufactured mythos surrounding this showcased indigenous Dublin/urban/Rural divide suits the establishment right down to the ground. A tactic as old as time for the couple of hundred that want to live high up on the top, laughing at everyone. Divide and conquer. And many of the state sponsored cultural institutions showcase it 24/7, 365 days of every year.

tinytobe

I think it's probably envy on one side.

On the other side, Dublin is associated probably with high property prices, greedy landlords and lot's of traffic and maybe even too international.

In the country, it's neighbour and neighbour knowing each other, bigger houses, more space and nice countryside, and in bad cases one can more rely on the other.

corner of hells

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120922649#Comment_120922649

Probably looking for the hang sammich in Butlers too.

Beefcake82

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058307388/why-does-the-rest-of-the-country-dislike-dublin-so-much

A good start would be to not classify everyone from outside Dublin as culchies, it is a very disparaging description. Many people feel some dubs look down on them and using language that "noun. Irish informal a rough or unsophisticated country-dweller from outside Dublin." does not help.

ZookeeperDub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120922815#Comment_120922815

He could get ones but they didn't have Denny hang so he left them

ZookeeperDub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120922791#Comment_120922791

F**k me wait till you try and rent a house outside Dublin. Some of the worst bottle necks for traffic are miles outside "da scity"

Hyperbollix

As a country bog hopper with no interest in Gah, I only associate Dublin with trips up on the train with my Dad when I was a teenager. He worked in it back in the day and when he retired and was still fit as a fiddle, we'd head up the odd time to do the tourist stuff. It was relatively clean, safe and an enjoyable day out.

That was the late 90's / early 2000's and it seems to be a very different place now. Any time I've been in the city centre, you get as much hassle from aggressive beggars and junkies as you do in southern europe or north africa. I've only been on the Luas a dozen times in my life and on lots of those journeys there was some miscreant causing a problem, necessitating security or some such. It's reminiscent of 1970's New York, just with less guns and prostitutes. Although, being a country bog hopper, I'm not sure I'd spot the prostitutes in a crowd. Probably loads of them.

tinytobe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120922840#Comment_120922840

Well, I was comparing with, say London or Toronto. Traffic is worse there for sure.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120922849#Comment_120922849

Well, the Luas is still cleaner than the NY subway was back in the 70ies. I recall, the first time I've taken the subway there, I thought they were garbage trucks, in terms of clean, or more lack of it, and then there wasn't a single spot on the train where there was no grafitti.

I would also guess prostitutes operate differently in today's world, like on the internet, and picking their clients with more care, or probably more some occasional prostitution, no pimps or human traffickers involved. The latter you might find waiting on the streets.

And yes, 1970ies NYC was not a pretty sight.

I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct

A lot of north dubs are scumbags and a lot of the southern are westbrit sickeners

gameoverdude

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120922400#Comment_120922400

They would.

gameoverdude

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120922821#Comment_120922821

True. Bleedin jackeens.

Perks

It's not spoken of often but from experience the underlying anger towards men in particular from Dublin by males outside of Dublin is because the girls and women flock to the giant spud and more often than not never return.

It's not really about Dublin, it's about girls/women leaving "the rest of the country" in search of more.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120922791#Comment_120922791

I've noticed a lot of the more unscrupulous landlords are from outside Dublin.

Dublin is a stunning county on the coasts and in some of the villages. I've spent a great deal of time exploring it the past few years and really think as a county it has phenomenal diversity and is taken for granted. (I'm a blow in from the country). However half the city centre is just being left to rot and is a bleak auld kip. The place also has become unaffordable for a lot of people.

Suburban and dreary west Dublin is a different world from Blackrock, Howth, Dalkey etc. Then you have the Dublin mountains to offer another perspective.

Podge_irl

Because they don't like cities. Which is fine and their choice.

Ultimately its no different from the opprobrium most countries face towards either their capital or largest city.

CB19Kevo

Well Dublin doesn't really live up to expectations, at least for many of us.

The expectation would be a safe, green city with good public transport links and historical sights, music venues and vibrant outdoor spaces.

Maybe it's just that we all need to accept that Dublin cannot be London (albeit London has many issues such as more serious knife crime) or live up to the beauty of many European cities not necessarily due to anyone's fault but just as a result of Dublin being a relatively new city that lacks a historical feel,it is what it is..

However there should be efforts to make the best of what Dublin is, preserve buildings, reinvigorate areas, actually provide a decent metro! and above all make at least the city centre a safe destination.

Dubs sometimes believe we are all to get them (Non Dubs), it's actually not the case, but its hard to find any love for a place i would consider a kip - rightly or wrongly but that's my genuine impression of Dublin based on my 30 or so visits over the years.. Again maybe its just i have been unlucky on occasion with my encounters on the streets so its IMO!

tesla_newbie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058307388/why-does-the-rest-of-the-country-dislike-dublin-so-much

I’m a culchie and I like Dubs , find them a lot warmer than folks in most of the country

the best and worst Irish people are to be found in Dublin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058307388/why-does-the-rest-of-the-country-dislike-dublin-so-much

Because city and country are two very different things.

Everyone defends their own land, so the rest of the country will largely dislike big cities; and those in big cities will largely dislike rural community.

It's possibly the same in every country, and it's partly a natural human response to want to justify feeling more comfortable in the community in which you reside. People have a tendency to slag off that which is considered different (to what they are typically accustomed to).

Just my two cents. I could be wrong.

Hamachi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120923310#Comment_120923310

This 100%. I’m also a culchie who has lived on and off in Dublin for quite a few years.

Dublin people are generally friendly and pretty open. They tend to give people a chance, unlike folks in the country, who are constantly trying to suss you out and look for reasons to tear you down.

No doubt there will be rants about ‘feral youth’ etc, but we’re speaking about average people here.

corner of hells

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120922991#Comment_120922991

Would that be the same as saying a lot of culchies are inbred ? The gene pool being shallow in some towns ?