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Uneasy about neighbour

  • 26-07-2023 4:25pm
    Registered Users Posts: 20,698 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright

    So basically there's a bloke who's in his 50's who lives on my road who was recently released from prison ,

    He did a two year stretch for touching up an older lady at a bus stop ,this wasn't the first time he came to the Garda attention for stuff like this,

    He is basically the local odd ball & for years he's up to odd stuff , Following girls home, making lude comments , lying on the green with his pants & trouser down, pissing in his front garden with his trouser around his ankles in the middle of the day , all kinds of odd stuff,

    Now its a nice area & a quite road so he really stands out, he minds his old mother & i think its a reason he isn't in for longer,

    Since his out he is constantly out on the path in front of his & seems to be ranting & raving to himself & commenting to people who walks past ,Seems either drugged up or drunk , He's a big tall fella about 6'4 & looks like a stero type for this kind of behaviour if you could picture him , Any times he walks by the house or myself with the kids he just stop's and stares, He seems to be far more erratic than he was before prison

    I don't want to react because if i do I'll either end up getting myself in trouble or come to his attention as in he'll see me as being in a situation with him if you get me,

    My question is there anything you can do about him or do you literally have to wait till he makes another offence,

    Iv have young kids who want to play out front of the house & i can't let them because i don't trust him ,My wife if pregnant won't go for a walk up that way because she afraid of running into him,

    To me it only seems like a matter of time before he does something to someone again , Do you just have to keep living & hope nothing ever happens or am i over thinking the whole thing,



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,908 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005

    Who looked after the house when he was in prison?

  • Registered Users Posts: 20,698 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright

    I know the mother was there, but not sure who helped her out ,

    The house is in bits & stand out on the road, Have you ever see the movie The Burbs its like that, You know when you pass the house there is something sinister behind the walls ,

  • Registered Users Posts: 20,908 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005

    It sounds as if it won't be long until he comes to Garda attention again.

  • Registered Users Posts: 237 ✭✭DAngelo Bailey

    Very little you can do I'm afraid do they own the gaf?

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,140 ✭✭✭T-Maxx

    Go and take a piss with him in his front garden.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,344 ✭✭✭Thoie

    Could you try calling the HSE mental health helpline and see if they have any suggestions about a welfare check for him? Presumably he was assessed while in prison, so it may "just" be drink or drugs.

  • Registered Users Posts: 596 ✭✭✭TheWonderLlama

    pissing in his front garden with his trouser around his ankles 

    Report him for indecent exposure. Gets it on the garda radar. Especially if he has done time for that type of thing. He might be on probation?

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭nachouser

    "Ah, hello Garda. Johnny in number 45 seems to be a bit distressed again. Maybe you could send someone over to check on him? I'd hate for something to happen to him. Terrible situation altogether."

    Each and every time.

  • Registered Users Posts: 25,856 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


  • Registered Users Posts: 596 ✭✭✭TheWonderLlama

    Why should they move? Do you always run away from problems?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,786 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject

    This, especially if kids can see him, exposing himself is bad enough but is a lot more serious if minors can see him.

    Get a ring doorbell and record him standing outside staring in.

  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,177 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007

    To me it only seems like a matter of time before he does something to someone again , Do you just have to keep living & hope nothing ever happens or am i over thinking the whole thing

    We can't lock people up just because we think they might someday commit a crime, otherwise we'd have to lock you as well in case you might assault him....

  • Registered Users Posts: 20,908 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005

    Do you follow him when he is following girls to their homes? Or how did you find out what sort of lewd comments he is making to the girls?

  • Registered Users Posts: 25,856 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble

  • Registered Users Posts: 596 ✭✭✭TheWonderLlama

  • Registered Users Posts: 20,698 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,160 ✭✭✭Jequ0n

    Hang on. Have you actually witnessed the more serious stuff (exposing himself, following girls home) or is this local gossip or happened way back in the past? Because it sounds a lot like the usual type of gossip that spreads when someone is an “oddball”.

    The muttering and talking to himself sounds like he is quite unwell but that he is keeping his distance from people.

  • Registered Users Posts: 20,698 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright

    What no why would i follow him, Where we live is a nice community & very settled so most are there long time so every one speaks to each other , Word of someone acting the p*ck gets around quick ,

    He's had plenty of incidents from following girls of secondary school age, to the women in her 60's at a bus stop (which he did time) to comments to older women on the church grounds,

  • Registered Users Posts: 20,698 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright

    Trust me on this, the fella is an absolute creep , I could almost write a book about the odd stuff he gets up to,

    He lives about 10 houses up the road from me for nearly 20 year's , I have other family member's who have lived on the road for 40 years, & know him since he was a young lad,

    Iv personally witnessed him lying on the green with his pants & trouser around his ankle, standing in his own garden with nothing on below the waste pissing in the middle of the day , Came out one night to my next door neighbour chasing him up the road as he followed his daughter home, He is literally only out of prison for the incident at the bus stop which is opposite my house,

    He was once a "normal "bloke who worked & had a normal life he, was engaged & when that broke down he seemed to lose the plot, Lots of talk that he turned to heroin i cant say if that's true or not but he is certainly unwell & needs help ,he can be quite aggressive in his manner ,

    He's basically a pest ,

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,414 ✭✭✭suvigirl

    Is there some reason you don't report him when he is exposing himself?

    You're worried about his behaviour but yet haven't done anything about the behaviour.

    Being odd isn't a crime, exposing your genitals or harassing people are. So why is no-one doing anything?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,698 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright

    He has been reported numerous time by myself & others, By the time the Garda come he's back in the house or fully clothed & they say they can't do anything,

    Let not forget he was jailed for one of these incidents ,

    A quick google of his name & the first thing that come up is of him missing in 2001 ,

    Then charged of sexual assault in 2006 for incidents in 2004 & 2005 where he got a suspended sentence because he had a psychiatric illness,

    Then charged & jailed again in 2022 ( i thought it was 2021) for sexual assault

  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot

    If he is exposing himself surely someone can obtain footage of same as proof for the guards.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,423 ✭✭✭AlanG

    If he is exposing himself in public he is probably breaking his probation. If you report him there is a slim chance he may get send back for a couple of months but you will have to deal with it when he gets out again. Most Guards are parents so if he is a threat they are likely to be happy to try and catch him and keep you out of it. Perhaps speak to them if you feel really intimidated.

    If he did 2 years inside he likely got sentenced to around 4 so that is a bit more than touching up someone at a bus stop. Try to find out what he actually did and if he is on the offenders register. it may help if he is intimidating your kids.

    Unfortunately it is a difficult situation but try to get facts and if appropriate talk to him.

  • Posts: 0 George Mealy Post

    Obviously he’s got a very serious psychotic condition, has a track record, and is a threat to the safety of the community as well as themselves. Have known such cases in the vicinity of my last home, and growing up. Mostly people like this suffer from schizophrenia and their health tends to deteriorate to such an extent that they often pass away naturally & prematurely from physical causes. All the cases I knew died prematurely, in their 50s or 60s. Way back in the day a lot of such people were afforded residence and shelter in St Brendan’s Grangegorman and St. Ita’s in Portrane, but of course now there is this notion of “care in the community” which simply doesn’t work out well for the more severe cases.

  • Registered Users Posts: 20,908 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005

    Something not right there. If you reported someone you saw robbing a shop could the Guards do nothing just because the robber went home? Of if you saw an assault on the street, could the Guards do nothing if the attacker went home? You and the numerous other neighbours have evidence that could be used in court cases.

  • Registered Users Posts: 10,665 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland

    These days they’d probably use GDPR to get out of doing anything.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis

  • Registered Users Posts: 20,698 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright

    This is going on years ,even before his last arrest he had numerous complaints made against him ,

    I think as someone mentioned footage seems like it would be the only way to get him dealt with ,

    I guess when these things occur people are just too busy getting out of dodge or don't want him to see them recording , as he may target you then ,

    I know last two times iv seen him up to strangeness , one i was driving past him lying on the green with is pants down & another time i was out for a run & laterally ran past him with no clothing on his lower half in his garden ,

  • Registered Users Posts: 29,118 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78

    ...he clearly needs serious professional help and support, he probably needs to be cared for by specialised social services, as he clearly has serous psychological problems, without these supports, he more than likely will reoffend, might be an idea to contact your local representatives, to see what can be done. tis an awful situation for a community, be on guard until you get some sort of resolution, and best of luck....

  • Registered Users Posts: 20,908 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005

    Law enforcement should not have to rely on having footage. You and the neighbours have clear evidence of indecent exposure and sexual harrassment of young females. If he is on Probation and on the Sex Offenders Register, your evidence will be credible.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 29,118 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78

    yup, community support is critical, try get more neighbors onboard here, you ll have a stronger voice together, and keep hounding all....