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Enough is enough? Dublin north inner city crime

  • 20-07-2023 9:44am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    When are government going to act and put an emergency team in place to clean up the north inner city.

    Another attack on Talbot st. A daily occurrence now yet Store Street station a stones throw away.


    This is an emergency situation in the surrounds of the cities main street.


    It is a disgrace. Why is nothing being done?


    Gardaí in Store Street are appealing for witnesses

    A man in his 40s is in a critical condition in hospital after he was attacked by a number of people on Dublin's Talbot Street last night.

    The serious assault happened at around 10.40pm and the victim is receiving treatment at Beaumont Hospital.


    No arrests have been made and gardaí in Store Street are appealing for witnesses.

    Investigations are ongoing, gardaí have said.

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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Guards are leaving every day so we have a very under resourced force at the moment so i suspect until staffing numbers go back up then things will only get worse and its all over the country at this point.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,276 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Watch everyone involved get a slap on the wrist, if they ever even charge anyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭Everlong1


    Why is nothing being done? Because the so-called Minister for Justice thinks it's more important to obsess over pandering to the wokerati with her hate speech bill.



  • Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Dublin CC is becoming a nasty, threatening and unloved kip. There’s no reason to visit anywhere around O’Connell Street these days. Yuck.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭JPCN1


    We badly need a new Minister for Justice.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows



    this might wake up those in charge


    Hope the man recovers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,557 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    much easier to spend their time introducing hate speech legislation to criminalise those that say mean things

    tackling real crime would be hard... plus doesn't come with pats on the back from NGOs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 527 ✭✭✭Marcos


    Yes, unfortunately I think something like this is the only thing that will force any action. It's terrible for the man, and I hope he recovers fully and swiftly. But Helen McEntee and Drew Harris have shown they couldn't give a damn about the general public, but when something like this affects tourists, especially American ones then something *might* be done.

    When most of us say "social justice" we mean equality under the law opposition to prejudice, discrimination and equal opportunities for all. When Social Justice Activists say "social justice" they mean an emphasis on group identity over the rights of the individual, a rejection of social liberalism, and the assumption that unequal outcomes are always evidence of structural inequalities.

    Andrew Doyle, The New Puritans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,949 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    You can't really blame her, she is not responsible for the day to day running and management of AGS. There is one man responsible for that. Unfortunately, he seems to be losing young recruits like noones business, and older guards are retiring, most not staying till 60 anymore.

    They need uniforms on the streets, lots of them. But most gardai are now in specialised units, away from the public. There will be less in November, when the uniform frontline units go back to the pre covid roster. Currently there are 4 stretched units, working 12 hour shifts. In November, they will return to 10 hour shifts over 6 days, resulting in the need for 5 units.

    So, what was 4, will be stretched to make 5.





  • Something needed to be done with that kip O'Connell St and surrounding streets 15 years ago.

    And since then it has been allowed slide further and further.

    An absolute shithole.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,557 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    really!? she sets the agenda!

    and her agenda is hate speech



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,949 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Nothing to do with the day to day running of the AGS.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,032 ✭✭✭tastyt


    On the Dublin is a kip thread I have often stood up for the place but ever since the pandemic it really is a horrible place . And it’s not the Dubs fault , the government don’t give a **** about its own anymore . Not enough guards on the streets because there’s not enough funding for them , not enough prisons built to lock up the scum so the lads with 200 convictions keep the legal aid merry go round tipping over and everyone living in Dublin 4 / 6 / south is happy and doesn’t have to concern themselves with this nonsense .

    As long as we can get a pat on the head from Europe and refugees and asylum seekers take up all our housing and tourist accommodation , then who gives a **** about things like crime on our streets ? Dublin is a kip and the rest of the country will follow because our leaders are corrupt , incompetent pricks with no sense of responsibility towards the Irish people



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,032 ✭✭✭tastyt


    Couldn’t agree more . Varadkar apologised to a Ukrainian actor when he got attacked in Dublin , where’s the apology for his own people dealing with this shite everyday ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,557 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    easy for governments these days to be unaccountable when you have people who think like this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 688 ✭✭✭cheese sandwich


    The Minister for Justice is asleep at the wheel, she seems unaware or uninterested in the ongoing deterioration of Dublin City Centre. She only seems concerned at getting pats on the back from taxpayer funded NGOs and right-on newspaper columnists, while locals and tourists are now routinely mugged and assaulted on the streets of our capital city



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,557 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    law and order party 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 688 ✭✭✭cheese sandwich


    There’s an opportunity here for SF to improve its standings amongst the middle classes in Dublin. If FF was in opposition it would be shouting from the rooftops about McEntee’s terrible performance, but apart from the odd rumblings at parliamentary party meetings, they’ve been very quiet about it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Its an emergency in that part of city. There should be car patrols going down Talbot st every 5 mins and 3-4 guards doing a constant circle from Connolly station to Spire 24hrs a day


    Hardly asking a lot





  • Agree. Get on the train from Connolly to Tara and you'll see all the squad cars parked up in the back of Store Street Station whatever ever they be at. Paperwork probably.

    The should be on the road. Dublin's reputation is fast going down the gutter as an international tourist destination. There has been a lot written about cost, poor value for money etc in the likes of Conde Nest. Wikitravel now has some callouts added around crime in Dublin and the city centre. A huge chunk of the city really.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭batman_oh


    Again, we are basically allowing teenage scum to do what they want with no repercussions. The fly around on robbed bikes that they steal in broad daylight, attack people when they fancy and half the time film stuff and post it on Tiktok for likes (not even bothering to hide their stupid heads in many cases). What other way did the liberal 'they have no faciliteez' heads think this was going to go.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    ...and putting skanger on the list of 'protected characteristics'. Well lets face it, it already is if not officially.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    Services havent grown in line with the economy and population.

    Dublin city center is obviously just going to get worse and worse if they keep cramming more and more into the same space. But they cant seem to break the cycle of 'everyones in dublin so lets locate it in dublin' ... which is a great idea if its 1970 and every 3rd family has 1 car.

    But it doesnt work any more and as a result going into the city is just asking for stress. Dodging food bikes, junkies, muggers and buses.

    The 'no life beyond the m50' attitude is largely to blame.

    And thats why i avoid the kip.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    This, 1000x times over

    Woman is obsessed with her image, position, and ensuring she gets enough paid leave.

    Minister for justice requires a capable, firm and assertive personality/attitude.

    She's passive aggressive with do-gooder overtones and the anticipated lust for the spotlight.





  • Helen McEntee lives in the arsehole of Meath. She couldn't be more further detached from the Dublin goings on.

    She has be ministerial car ferry her around. And this was is the exact same for other cabinet ministers - they don't really know Dublin as they never walk around it.

    I met Paschal Donohue going into Jervis centre one day and he lives in Drumcondra - probably the closest to seeing the problems.

    Definitely needs a huge uplift in Guards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,703 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    What is unique about Dublin among capital cities is the sheer number of social housing areas right next to our main tourism and business centres.

    Like, any regeneration projects for O'Connell Street are doomed to failure unless we can somehow get rid of all the scrotes and junkies who live around the corner. Increasing the number of Garda patrols might be a short-term fix but as soon as the Garda car goes around the corner, it's business as usual.

    Assuming we're never going back to the large-scale construction of new social housing estates in the suburbs and mass relocations, this is how it's going to be. You can blame Helen McEntee, or the Gardai, but it's the total scumbags living there who are the problem, and there is no solution. No politician is ever going to tackle that, and Sinn Fein certainly aren't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 688 ✭✭✭cheese sandwich


    I genuinely dont think she’s up to the job. Minister for Justice is one of the toughest roles in government. She has no track record of the sort of hard-nosed capabilities that such a position requires. She has never shown the sort of independent thought or brain-power you’d expect from someone holding such a top level position. As a result she seems completely focused on her few NGO-approved policies and is unable to deal with pressing issues as they arise.

    I’m not a fan of Simon Harris, but at least when he was acting in the role he seemed interested in tackling actual crime



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,089 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    A horrific attack on that poor man.

    Given that he was 57 years old and American, it might spur on the useless Justice Minister to do something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,057 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Unfortunately urban crime (although more prolific) will never get the attention that the darling media rural crime gets.

    Currently the capital is haemorrhaging money to subsidise the rest of the country and welcoming in every destitute from the everywhere in the country and further afield, the money is being pumped out and the problems pumped in. The city needs to invest in itself, we need a metro police & we need Metro North.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,560 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    It's not like she cares any more about the victims of the rural burglary gangs.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 694 ✭✭✭brianomc


    I walked down Talbot Street around 22:30 last night. Usual gang of 20ish teenagers eyeing up everyone who passes, throwing shapes as they walk around. Sure it could have been someone else but I’d bet my money on these.

    Last time I was walking down Talbot Street they were attacking 2 guys. Possibly not the same group but there was a woman that time shouting at them that they are there every day attacking someone.

    They are untouchable and they know it. A garda car cant chase them around there and they would love a chase anyway I’m sure.

    We can only hope that they are all sterile.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,945 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    She’s a “useful idiot” for the NGO brigade.

    More interested in all the wokeness and photo opportunities than anything else.





  • Wouldn't be so sure - off the top of my head in the past few years

    -A Brazilian Deliveroo cyclist mowed down by joyriders and killed

    - A Mongolian lady stabbed and killed for her phone

    - A young Irish fella stabbed in East wall

    - An Irish Olympian badly beaten

    -A Ukrainian Theatre performer badly beaten

    Not too mention feud related shootings etc. And getting worse. The trend has been there for a good while now in that area. It needed a huge policing uplift and they decided to close some stations 🤦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,162 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    Hope this person recovers fully maybe if this attack gets brought to the attention of even the US ambassador or someone like that our wonderful minister might actually concentrate on the crime issue and park all the other nonsense that she spends her time on .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 800 ✭✭✭CB19Kevo


    Its a constant debate on this forum, yes long term solutions are needed but in the short term - POLICE IT.

    Put these twerps under pressure and actually respond to every small disturbance, its leaving the small incidents go that lead to the bigger problems...

    As for Garda resourcing, yes they need to hire additional, indeed likely nearly double the force to actually make a real difference all over the country but for the moment there should be redeployment.

    We are some joke of a country, making issues out to be impossible to solve when there are always solutions.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,357 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    That poor man. I'm absolutely disgusted. We are rapidly going further and further downhill in this country when it comes to law and order. Too many crimes left unpunished or else miniscule sentences. A constant Garda presence on the streets, particularly in the "rougher" areas is what's needed. Will we get that though? Of course not.





  • And we have the money to invest in these problems which is the most infuriating thing!

    Running huge budget surpluses and instead the Govt are electing to put away for a rainy day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,296 ✭✭✭Be right back


    Not forgetting Guido. https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/i-died-when-i-was-17-italian-man-34-left-paraplegic-after-bottle-attack-in-dublin/34746846.html.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭Augme



    It's the refugees and asylum seekers who are to blame. 😂 the mental gymnastics from current affairs posters is always incredible to watch. 👏



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭Viscount Aggro


    The streets around Talbot Street are a ghetto. I used to work nearby.

    I saw a lot of one-legged people. The Eurosaver on Abbey street sells 2 Euro crutches.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,357 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    The RTE headline then: https://www.rte.ie/news/2023/0720/1395536-talbot-assault/ - more like "US Tourist savagely kicked and beaten in Dublin City Centre attack" - it then goes onto say that he has life-changing injuries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,415 ✭✭✭Quitelife


    Free Legal Aid Solicitors & Judges are on the Scummbags side & couldnt care less what happens law abiding people !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭mazdamiatamx5


    Horrendous incident, its obvious that they pick on people not able to defend themselves, cowards that they are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭Citroen2cv


    You really despise anything rural don't you? It is quite obvious from your posts on other threads. Inner city crime problem, yet you say it is rural Irelands fault.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭mazdamiatamx5


    Donoghue is from a working class background, he didn't grow up in Dalkey or Malahide so he doesn't even have the excuse of not being aware of the problems

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭mazdamiatamx5


    She's a light weight. I wasn't a fan of either Shatter or Fitzgerald but at least they had a bit of substance



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,259 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Imagine being a guard and arresting feral scum only to see the judiciary let them back out on the streets as soon as they are in court!

    You would be fairly unmotivated very quickly.

    Why is the judiciary so light touched on sentencing these scum?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,259 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭Mike Murdock


    McEntee is in favour of raising the age of giving out cautions instead of a prison sentence from 18 to 24 years of age for some crimes that should get custodial sentences.

    She is a liability and has always been a liability. And a danger to a safe, civil society.

    But as long as she passes her hurty word legislation through the Dail...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,259 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    What’s the point in more guards if the scum are back on the street reoffending 24hrs later?

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


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