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Illegal parking on the footpath.

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  • 07-07-2023 8:11pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭


    Thanks in advance for any help.


    There is an Airbnb around the corner from my house. The house has no off street parking but on the advert it states that outside the house, on the footpath, is the parking for the house.


    The footpath narrows after this so when cars park there it makes access very difficult when trying to walk by.


    I have reported the issue multiple times online to Dublin street parking services. I'm not sure if any fines have been issued to vehicles that I have reported. If they were issued, as the house is rented by different people, the next person along parks here also.


    Can anyone tell me if they know of any other options open to me?


    Thanks.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,119 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    Rent the Airbnb, then leave bad reviews, especially about the parking situation and how you got a few tickets, and that the renter lied about parking.

    Or, just get on with life the best you can.



  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭dbs103


    I'm not going to pay 400 quid to stay 50 feet down the road for one night.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 49,530 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    can you make a complaint to airbnb that the owner is claiming parking is available, but only if the cars are parked illegally?



  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭dbs103


    Worth a try, but I'm not too sure they would do anything about it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,118 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Contact a local councillor about it - the property may not have planning to be a short-term let, the Council don't authorise footpath parking. Contact the garda about the footpath parking, they are required to enforce it too. Contact Airbnb and say the owner is encouraging illegal activity by suggesting visitors park on footpaths and airbnb encourage this posting



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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Link to the advert please



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭jd




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,873 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    My experience of DSPS is that they are only interested in the ‘low hanging fruit’, overstaying on the meter, blocking clearways etc in the same few high traffic locations.

    Get on to you local councillor, log the amount of times you see cars parked there, take photos of the blockages.

    The councillor might be able to make on roads with someone who can help in the council.

    If there is a local newsletter or Facebook page it might be worth posting it there too. If a few of you can get on to the councillor, they might take it a bit more seriously.

    The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,989 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    And I hate to say it, put a lental in the dust caps of the illegally parked cars. You can't leave bad reviews but enough guests with bad reviews will solve the problem.



  • Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭M3CS


    Just get on with your life. Honestly, if somehow it happens that no cars park on that path ever again will it improve your quality of life in any way?



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  • Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's not very smart to immobilise a car that you want moved, by letting down its tyres. Plus you could be accused of causing damage to the car if caught on camera - which I'd say the airbnb owner likely has.

    Don't punish the visitor who has been told by the Airbnb owner that they are allowed to park there. It's the Airbnb owner who needs to be dealt with, not the visitor.

    Or, heres a crazy idea. Instead of skulking around interfering with vehicles and letting down tyres, knock on the door and tell the visitor that in case they are unaware of it, they're parked illegally. And let them take it up with the owner.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,989 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    The owner telling people to park illegally is part of the problem, people parking illegally are committing the offence and are the problem. If they are Irish they will already know it's illegal to park on the footpath and if a forgiener doesn't bother to learn the local laws that is their problem.

    The car isn't damaged by letting air out of the tyres. The tyres may be damaged if the operator skips their daily inspection and drives for a long distance, if you can't tell that you have flat tyres when starting off you shouldn't be driving.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    From a previous thread in legal

    Firstly, it may be an offence under S113 RTA 1961. The specific offence is that of Unauthorised interference with the mechanism of vehicle. This applies in a public place.


    Secondly, it may be an offence under the Criminal Damage Act 1991 as Robbo points out. Under S1 of that act to damage means ...." to destroy, deface, dismantle or, whether temporarily or otherwise, render inoperable or unfit for use or prevent or impair the operation of,..........



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,989 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    We don't enforce our laws. The repeated illegal parking isn't actioned. People don't slow down for red lights. We've a massive problem with anti social behaviour. It's illegal to be intoxicated in public. Etc

    The chances of getting done for letting the air out of an illegally parked vehicle are miniscule. And if you are a video won't show you removing the dust caps. My lace where open so I had to tie it, then I noticed that the other was loose so I tied that. Reasonable doubt! Or use the defence that the scumbags used to get off pushing a woman under a train on camera, the others lead me astray and it was peer pressure.



  • Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Someone knocking on the door and telling the occupiers they're parked illegally, and they should speak to the owner, will get the message across to the owner far more quickly than letting their client's tyres down, which could be seen as a random act of vandalism.

    Letting down the air in someone's tyres is scumbag behaviour, and will just be attributed to scumbags, not someone who has an issue with parking.

    Have the courage of your conviction and knock on the door and tell the occupier face to face that they're parked illegally. Or confront the owner yourself. You can contact them through the listing on Airbnb.

    Your other "solution" seems somewhat cowardly to me. Two wrongs don't make a right.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    You can do what you like, just don't say you weren't told that it was actually likely to be criminal damage to let the air out of a tyre.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 49,530 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Is anyone else finding it bemusing that some people seem to be objecting more to the idea of people deflating tyres of those parking their cars across footpaths, than to the idea of people parking their cars across footpaths?

    I mean, I'm not saying either is right, but I'm having a chuckle about which one is being portrayed as the abominable criminal act.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    No I find it bemusing that people advise people to break the law.

    I also find it bemusing when people seem to condone doing so by having a chuckle



  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭dbs103


    Thank you for your response, but I have to ask how your reply actually answers my original question?


    If this issue didn't impact me then I wouldn't have raised it in the first place.


    Maybe you could respond to questions within the context that they are asked instead of just making flippant remarks. Thanks though.



  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭dbs103


    Thank you for all the responses.


    I've contacted a local councillor to see if they can help.


    I've also reported the parking aspect of the advert as incorrect with the advertiser.


    I don't want to get into planning permission aspects etc. as how a person rents out their property is up to them.


    Thanks again for your help.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭AUDI20


    will improve the quality of life for the people that do use that footpath, fair play to you OP for highlighting it



  • Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭M3CS


    How exactly does it impact you? Is it that you occasionally have to walk around a car which adds an extra couple of seconds to your Sunday evening lap around the estate? If it was directly outside your own house you might have a point but it's around the corner and out of sight.

    I offered some genuine advice to not let such a trivial issue continue to consume so much of your time and energy. You were up at 3am last night posting about this. Forget what I said and carry on stalking Airbnb, writing to councillors who couldn't care less, contemplating vandalising the guests cars and losing sleep for the next few months/years over a car that's parked on a footpath.



  • Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭M3CS


    Why don't you follow his lead and walk around your estate tonight to see how many cars are parked on the footpath? Report them all in the morning and if you're lucky you might get a pat on the back as well for highlighting it.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 49,530 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    I, for one, wish the OP well because people storing their cars on space which is intended to be reserved for pedestrians grinds my gears too.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭coolbeans


    Bang of I'm alright Jack off this post. Nation of scofflaws is all we are. I'm not going to even explain the myriad reasons why cars shouldn't be on the path to you because I doubt you'd understand in your self centered little world.



  • Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭M3CS


    Read my posts again. I'm not condoning parking on footpaths or arguing that there's nothing wrong with doing it - I don't agree with it either. All I've said in this thread is that the OP is investing a lot of time and energy into a cause that will ultimately lead nowhere and yield no results. This neighbour has rattled the OP and now he's dedicating hours each day to try and get one over on him. Did he forget to include the part where he confronted the owner of the property about this issue? Or did he just report it to Dublin Parking Services "multiple times" without even attempting to contact the one person that can do something about it immediately?

    My advice to the OP was to let it go and move on. There's more important things to worry about. This isn't something that should be preventing him from spending quality time with his family, sleeping through the night and generally enjoying his life - but it clearly is.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 49,530 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    'dedicating hours each day'? How long does it take you to send a few mails?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 49,530 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    if you want to take from my post that i condone letting the air out of tyres of tourists who have been mistakenly led to believe that it's OK to park there, that's on you.

    but i will note again that you are more exercised about the idea about letting the air out of the tyres - which was a hypothesis or suggestion, not something the OP has done - than you seem to be about illegal parking.

    however, you mentioned a previous thread from which you quoted some legislation which might cover it - what was the context there? do you have a link?



  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭dbs103


    I don't want to get into an argument with you but just because you can't understand why I want this to stop just shows that you would probably find no problem with parking on a footpath.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭dbs103


    How does the time I posted at make any difference?


    Have you ever heard of shift work?



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