Who should lead the next government?

Uncharted2

• The current government are out of control, the country is suffering with ongoing inflation, legislations introduced that is never benefits the Irish people, corruption of corruption and yet they still stay in power. This could possibly be the worst period in history for Irish politics. We needs change ASAP. Who would you vote for when a general election is called?

Pauliedragon

Don't think it really matters. The important things like health and housing are so broken no-one can fix it.

Wanderer78

...whoever the people choose during the next election!

ffs, this isnt russia! the government arent out of control, since we re an open economy, our political institutions have very little control over issues such as inflation, even our major central banks cant do much about this form of inflation, i.e. 'supplied side'. what legislations exactly are not benefitting the irish people? maybe its the worst period in our history, but i some how doubt this to, as we re now wealthier than we ve ever been!

L1011

The last three parties in your list won't have any TDs next time. The four above it will probably have 15 between them.

Floppybits

there is no "others" option

astrofool

Starting with hyperbolae never ends well:

This could possibly be the worst period in history for Irish politics.

Worse than civil war, the IMF taking over (multiple times), Cowen's collapsing government, the rapid inflation during the oil crisis, the Magdalene laundries etc. etc.

Irish politics is dull as dishwater these days, the arguments on the big issue (housing) are over who gets what (my supporters or yours).

Uncharted2

The National Party

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120783708#Comment_120783708

Sorry I noticed that after posting, should have added it.

nachouser

"Whichever crowd has the tallest magic money tree" should be an option.

degrassinoel

Sinn Féin

The fact that there's an option for the Irish Freedom Party AND someone voted for it LOL! Sieg Heil.

Uncharted2

The National Party

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120783970#Comment_120783970

I'd be more worried about anyone voting for Fine Gael.

For Forks Sake

Fine Gael

Did I slip into a coma and miss an election?

Allinall

Fine Gael

I’ll more than likely vote FG, but you needn’t worry.

It’ll work out fine.

Boggles

State of the bottom 2. 😂

Have they even filed their accounts?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058302933/who-should-lead-the-next-government

I've come to the conclusion that it doesn't matter.

Ultimately, whoever gets the position will yield to the same old middle-ground management-style politics. No vision, no creativity -- just more of the same, whilst pretending that they are different from one another. The EU is the real agency of power here. Varadkar, Martin, McDonald etc., will always operate within a very narrow political band, achieving next to nothing along the way.

And for what it's worth, I would have voted for Fine Gael. But after that ghastly bill on hate speech introduced by Helen McEntee, I will never vote for that party again.

buried

Poll needs a 'Global Corporation/Banking Sector' option.

Because that's whose leading this government.

And the next one.

RonanG86

Sinn Féin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120783695#Comment_120783695

I would expect Aontu to hang on to Peadar's seat, maybe even add one or two, but we can see how the OP voted.

Enough said there.

I voted SF cos purely I think that's what's going to happen, and as much as people REEEE about how they're the IRA, or their left wing 'money-tree' policies will run the country, I'm genuinely struggling to see how they could possibly do worse than the incumbents. And the Taoiseach is certainly not coming from any party other than FF, FG or SF.

I'd say the biggest obstacle to the Shinners is that other parties won't be lining up to be the first party to go into government with them. Once one crowd has done it, it becomes legitimised and all bets are off.

Jim2007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058302933/who-should-lead-the-next-government

Whoever the Dail elect, that is how our version of democracy works. It's up to the parties to see if they can reach agreement on an agenda for government of not... But I'd say there is very little chance you'll get the outcome you want as you seem to be far from the norm.

When it comes to corruption, we full expect that it will occur that is why we have instituted the check and provision we have. And the fact that those provision are yield results should bring you confidence - it's when you are not hearing about it, you should be very worried because all that means is that we are failing to detect it.

As for the worst period in politics - the arms crisis, when members of the government tried to subvert the constitution, we are not even remotely close to that.

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120784121#Comment_120784121

Wiped to 0 in NI, which is more conservative. Don't think Peadar's personal vote will survive proper SF vote management.

prunudo

Fine Gael

It will be Ffg with a smaller party.

I.R.Y.E.D

None of the parties in the list get a vote from me, the last two only have the slow and the scrotes supporting them.

callum2002

Social Democrats

I expect to see the Green Party with 0 seats. Everyone has been exhausted with there nonsense. Killing cows in the hope of reducing C02 that will make zero difference. Madness.

The hate speech bill is one that will hit home soon. FG and GP are both pushing this.

Uncharted2

The National Party

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058302933/who-should-lead-the-next-government

Wow 11 votes for Fine Gael? everything they have done and continue to do, they are destroying Ireland.

Real Donald Trump

Wow, even the Green supporters on here don't seem to like them lol

Goldengirl

This is gas!

Why would you pin your colours to a mast before the election date .

I know I am centre left , but I could go left- or- right of that depending how things are going .

I will decide before I put my pen to the ballot paper and nobody , not even my oh will know for sure who I voted for , certainly not anybody here ;) ... maybe after .

I change my vote every election depending on issues that affect me /my family/ the country ( note that order ).

No politician " gets my vote " without earning it or getting a right grilling , and if they are not up for that , fvck em .

Also the best way to spoil your vote in Ireland is to vote for one party .

Vote strategically in your area so that you get who you want in .

It will nearly always be a coalition of parties .

Voting for Peadar or all the bottom 4 groups is a spoilt vote , hate to break it to ye, lads /s .

But it's your vote to do with what you please .

Ramasun

Green Party

It looks like SF will need a coalition partner or two.

ninebeanrows

Itll surely be FF SF

Nobody ever believed FF FG possible and look where we are

FG will prob be delighted for a few years out of power

DirectorKrennic

Aontú

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120783646#Comment_120783646

Agreed! The country is about 500,000 houses behind where we should be - even if we can hit 50,000 units a year - that would still take a decade to fix, given the population growth in the last few years it is very hard to see it being fixed anytime soon. It does seem to be the same in the US, Canada, UK and Australia too?

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120786914#Comment_120786914

Wha?

You are voting for Soc Dems and they support both things you are giving out about

Geuze

Fianna Fáil

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120784016#Comment_120784016

It is likely that I may vote for FG.

Now, I am their no. 1 critic.

Housing? Brutal.....

Tax? The SCROP is really low at 40k.......

Health: no sign of Slaintecare.....................

But who else can you vote for?

PBP = Marxists lunatics, bonkers

GP = I agree with many env policies, but then RO'G ruins it by inviting thousands of bogus AS

SocDems / Lab = massive bonkers woke policies / identity politics / pro-abortion after 12 weeks

FF = maybe.....................

SF = no

Quantum Erasure

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120783695#Comment_120783695

I'd put money on Peadar Toibin keeping his seat.

65 votes and not a single one for Labour lol RIP.

I'd cast a vote for;

Sinn Féin

Soc Dems (the least organised party in the northern hemisphere, hopefully next time around they realise there are counties outside The Pale)

PBP

A good left-wing independent.

Ramasun

Green Party

I think Law and Order will be a major issue in the next election, possibly why the current government isn't doing much about it at the moment.

If it looks like we need more Gardai on the streets with powers to deal with anti-social behavior Sinn Fein won't be the party you'd think to vote for.

Hellrazer

Sinn Féin

Sinn Fein and / or Independents for me - FG voter since I was 18 but I really cant support them any more - theyve gotten to close to being FF 2.0 that I just wont be voting for them next time around.

It kills me to say it but its really a case of anyone but FF /FG / GP for me in the next election.

XsApollo

Fine Gael

Whichever party gets enough votes so they don’t need the greens.

Ramasun

Green Party

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120793929#Comment_120793929

We're fortunate to have Proportional Representation, despite it's problems. At least the Green Party have a coherent ideology and not just flat cap wearing parish pump opportunists.

zell12

I read 'next autumn' as in a few months time

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120794415#Comment_120794415

na, autumn 24 at the earliest....

XsApollo

Fine Gael

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120793938#Comment_120793938

Coherently sh*t yes.

keynes

Irish Freedom Party

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120794415#Comment_120794415

The proposed 4:1 ratio of spending increases to tax cuts just underlines that there is no difference between any of the "main" parties; they are all leftists now

Odhinn

Sinn Féin

The labour vote is suprising, but plesant.

Ramasun

Green Party

There's a real danger of Leprachaunomics being employed by people who care more about being in power than governing the country responsibly. I don't trust SF, FF or FG not to go on irresponsible spending sprees which throw money away and costs people money in real terms.

Geuze

Fianna Fáil

I can't understand calls for further increases in public spending.

In housing and transit, okay fair enough.

But in many areas, there has already been huge increases, we need to be getting better value for money.

Over five years, spending up from 78bn to 10.7.5bn, a 38% rise.

The interest bill on the public debt has fallen, thankfully, so non-interest spending has grown by even more!!

Welfare spending jumped in 2020 due to COVID, from 30.8 to 37bn, fair enough, but it has not reduced since then!!

Subsidies increased from19 to 6.3bn due to COVID, okay, but have only fallen back to 3.3bn.

Other than public transit, what are the big subsidies?

Brussels Sprout

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058302933/who-should-lead-the-next-government

You're tipping your hand OP when you didn't include Independents 4 Change (who had a TD elected in the last election before she started a new party, which you also didn't include) but have included 2 parties that don't have a single elected representative at any level that just happen to be far-right.

Montage of Feck

Aontú

I'm voting for the Irish Parliamentary Party, I like the look of that Parnell fellow.

Montage of Feck

Aontú

In the real world I wouldn't actually vote for Aontú due to the whiff of moralistic catholicism.

ILikeBananas

Green Party

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120795683#Comment_120795683

1. You can't be too much of a fan. They rebranded themselves a few months ago.
2. Did you register an account today just so you could vote in this poll?

Count Dracula

Fine Gael

I can see Sinn Fein not quite making it. They haven't really got the knowhow, which is a relief really as this country deserve better than to be run by deluded cranks with no plan.

The balance of power lies between the swing between Sinn Fein and Fianna Fail.

The only way Sinn Fein can get in is by targeting the FF seats, FG voters won't swing to Sinn Fein but Fianna fail voters will. It makes sense, both parties are essentially corrupt, deceitful and full of crap, it is disappointing that more people don't recognise that and frightening that Sinn Fein supporters don't understand how feckless and stupid they are.

Fine Gael should be targeting the leftie vote, as it is the only area for expansion they have. They won't though, because all the leading members of the party are too busy looking at how they are perceived... to even dream of grasping the nettle. As a party it needs such a shaking to get it back into shape, they are PR mad. Strategically they have the best strategy for this country, but they need to fire the entire election team now and steal a few from Sinn Fein, whose PR team are amazing and clued in and on the ball, which spells disaster for everyone.

Hopefully Sinn Fein and Fianna Fail form a coalition, I actually think Mary Lou would be a great Taoiseach and it would give the whole country a nice opportunity to realise what a complete gang of forks in a soup bowl the entire SF front bench are. They already know that FF are a gang a spanners.

Ironically the only way a United Ireland will ever be realised is if we have a Fine Gael government, the unionists have only ever dealt with them, they refuse to deal with SF and don't like FF.

Ireland needs FG to shape up, otherwise it is doomed to be run by clueless wide eyed idealists who have no plan.

I hope this election also starts the trend of independents and other crap not getting seats. voters need to cop on that voting for them achieves absolutely zero, they are powerless and deliver nothing, a bit like the Shinners are, do you know what I mean?

tesla_newbie

Irish Freedom Party

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120796024#Comment_120796024

Both FG and FF have relentlessly chased the “ leftie vote “ this past several years

the problem for both is no self respecting woke leftie would be caught dead voting FF though FG suffer a lot less in this regard

Michael Martin has killed his own party by placing a bigger emphasis on appearing progressive than listening to the party’s traditional rural conservative base

Count Dracula

Fine Gael

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120796071#Comment_120796071

In time even Me hawl will realise what a shameless embarrassment he has always been, to not just himself, his declining political formula, his dead wood FF party..... and to the entire country actaully, in broad public daylight...., he is just not there yet? He might need counselling when that penny eventually drops

The same can be said for Angry Smurf though as well, and he is only startin?. He thinks he is a 3 rd century version of connolly or big Jim Larkin..... where in reality he is actually a crank without a plan, with o'Leary in the grave. Angry smurf needs to be made aware, some one should tell him what a bad result he would deliver for everyone and what a tool he will inevitably continue to make of himself. He is the epitome of the calamity he will create, it is terrifying.

griffin100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120793938#Comment_120793938

What’s Roderick O’Gormans coherent ideology?

Ramasun

Green Party

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120796218#Comment_120796218

I'm not your Personal Assistant but I'm a helpful person.

https://rodericogorman.com/