Replacing Garden Floodlight

Seve OB

I used to have a PIR 400w halogen security lamp over my back door. It gave great light in the garden. About 5 years ago I replaced it with an PIR LED 30w 2,400lm. It was not a cheap option and I thought I was buying a quality product but it was never as good as the Halogen for brightness and the light was kind of dull. In last few months it's basically died. Most of the LED's are no longer lighting but we are still getting a tiny bit of light out of it.

I also have a smaller LED one 10w in different but smaller area that seems to gives better light and has lasted longer. I'm wondering if I just bought a bad light or should I be upping the wattage/lumens?

There are so many different options and price ranges for what appears to be basically the same thing. Is it worth paying anywhere between €50-€100 for something when similar can be gotten for about €20? I just don't know what are premium brands of lighting and which are budget ones.

I don't mind spending the money to get a quality product, but I thought I was doing that the last time. I've also read reviews about expensive ones not being worth the extra money.

So should I go for a 30w or a 50w?

Will I spend big or go budget or find a middle of the road?

Recommendations and advice please.

At the moment torn between

https://www.screwfix.ie/p/lap-weyburn-outdoor-led-floodlight-with-pir-sensor-black-50w-5000lm/408pg#product_additional_details_container

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07TSM6B9Q/ref%3Dox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ABO2TGZ530QRC&psc=1

and something a bit different 30w 2,700

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B09MTG4C2Z/ref%3Dox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A2E41ZUVXHVRIC&psc=1

I would probably just go for this as it does look cool but reservations about it being the same wattage and lumen as previous one.

this looks basically the same but nearly 3 times the price!

https://www.lights.ie/p/prios-paityn-led-outdoor-wall-light-sensor-50-w.html

10-10-20

Hi, I've said this here before but with LED lights you really get what you pay for. Low cost lamps have low-cost power circuitry, low-cost LED's and low-cost enclosures. Going for a mid-range lamp is generally better, but you can still encounter some burn-outs, but it's less-so these days as LED lamps have become the standard and the poorer designs have been weeded out in the mid-range. If the light fixture is going to be placed high up then go for a slightly better model again as you want to minimise the chance of it blowing and having you climb that ladder again.

I've used Ansell in the past around the house, I had one go on me and I have the replacement Ansell lined up to be installed.

Seve OB

thanks for that 10-10 great help.

i guess i now just have to figure our which are the brands to look at and the brands to avoid

i wouldn't know if i'm looking at a piece of junk with a hefty price tag...

what's the thoughts so on the LAP Weyburn one?

waterwelly

I tend to buy these type of thing on Amazon as the reviews and rating are there to see.

10-10-20

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120686403#Comment_120686403

It's nothing fancy, it should be fine.

If you want a recommendation of a sold performer, drop into an electrical wholesalers of a quiet evening and see what they tell you. 👍️

Seve OB

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120686534#Comment_120686534

that's where i bought the last one 🤣

10-10-20

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120686616#Comment_120686616

Yeah, hit-and-miss.

Go for the LAP and we'll see if you're back looking for advice within 5 years. ;)

Risteard81

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120686403#Comment_120686403

LAP is a rubbish Screwfix own brand. I would never choose to fit it.

Steinel is a top quality brand for floodlights (but with a pricetag to match). Collingwood and Robus can be got for reasonable money.

mountain

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120688063#Comment_120688063

Have Steinel, not cheap but very good quality

Seve OB

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120688063#Comment_120688063

Thanks for that, I’ll check them out.

any thoughts on V-Tac? They some with Samsung led’s so think they might be decent?

Also wondering about getting PIR sensor separate or built into the light, what are thoughts on this? Guess I could link the 2 lights (they are close by) to the one PIR sensor and would imagine that wouldn’t have to be replaced every time I get new lights then, ie cheaper lights

kirk.

I would use pir LED lights not a separate pir . You get better coverage that way

Also less wiring