The future of fencing?

hopeso

Concrete posts that can be driven with a post driver, and take staples. Plenty of chat in the video, but we don't see a post being driven, or taking a staple. He's not giving much away about the price either...... Has anyone seen these?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYog8sqpqjM

SuperTortoise

That popped up on my youtube feed yesterday, i was impressed by it, the fella talked a good talk at least, just wondering where the catch is?

Could be price as that was'nt mentioned, or maybe they won't last as long as a real concrete post i don't know, but i said to myself i must look into them more.

Has anyone priced them?

jaymla627

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120617724#Comment_120617724

I'd say on rocky ground types they'd just shatter, dangerous job too driving them and get a lump of concrete in the head if it did happen,

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We use the knacker blocks here in places where theirs sheets of rock a smaller neater version of the above would be nearly a better job

kevthegaff

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120617928#Comment_120617928

I wouldn't like them, taking up space. I have ordered 10 clipex posts, gona see how they go. Only worry is the guy with a mower! A few guys selling the concrete posts from the railway, seen to be happy with them but u need to get a digger in

funkey_monkey

Roughly £13 for the post and £47 for the 7' strainer. Plus vat.

What they were using them for was an ideal use - small field in or around yard or a house. Can't see many folk fencing full fields with them though. Maybe the strainer posts will get more widespread use.

The man with the mower is a menace to all fences. Or the man with the tanker coating the posts in slurry.

They are installed across the road from Ballymena mart one of the big marts in the north - if any of you are up at it. The factory making them is just up the road.

Cavanjack

Anyone use single slats for strainers or gate post? The idea came into my head watching that video

148multi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120618246#Comment_120618246

Yes

endainoz

I think clipex is the future of fencing myself, fantastic job but not cheap. However they should last a very long time compared to a non treated post. Would love to get into hedge laying for field boundaries, but these things take alot of time to grow and skill to lay.

hopeso

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120618212#Comment_120618212

Do you know how they take staples? The only thing I can think of is that they have a strip of plastic or something running down the length of the post.

148multi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120619992#Comment_120619992

Yes they have a fixing strip

Castlekeeper

My last bunch of posts were so bad, (rotten in 5 years) I'm trying a bushcraft experiment in a few spots. I'm going sticking some freshcut 3" willows along straight runs. They'll surely last a few years and they might even root in which case they'd last indefinitely!

Beats buying more **** from China anyway.

Cavanjack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120618417#Comment_120618417

Success?

amacca

I have an old style post driver...small spike in the center...massive animal of a thing...I'd be afraid the post driver would smash the concrete strainer tbh

Is there a lot of cellulose in the concrete mix ...or something that leaves a bit of flexibility in it

I could see a couple of uses around here if they can take a battering with the kind of post driver I have

If not, then proper esb poles have a decent long life

funkey_monkey

Yes. There is a plastic strip about 40mm deep in the post.

funkey_monkey

@amacca - they are designed to be put in with a post knocker. You'll need the cap though to do it. It seems to be to protect the post when knocking in.

They have some videos up on the fb and YT pages of them being knocked on.

mr.stonewall

Anyone here use chestnut stakes and if so how have you found them. Larch is a bit hit and miss unless you get stakes from the darker heartwood.

Long term it's something to consider having some element of self sufficiency with fencing

amacca

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120621559#Comment_120621559

I'd say I'd have to modify my one....its an older piece of kit, the plate contacting the post has a spike in it. The spike would have to go anyway I'd say.

cjpm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120620193#Comment_120620193

If there is some bit of moisture in the ground the willows could well start growing. Have a good few here. Only problem after a few years is that you need to trim the new branches that grow each year and the bark started growing out eventually like a tree.

Castlekeeper

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120622441#Comment_120622441

That's the actual idea, free homegrown permanent fence posts.

The bit of maintenance won't kill me.

yosemitesam1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120621878#Comment_120621878

Next best thing to oak only without the issue of corroding galvanize

Castlekeeper

What kind of chestnut is this? Common horse chestnut conker trees or imported sweet chestnut ot other species?

mr.stonewall

Sweet chestnut or Spanish chestnut

Cavanjack

Are the creosote posts gone up the north too?

funkey_monkey

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120626052#Comment_120626052

They are going, but still available. From a quick Google Mackins in Newry, East Down Farmers, and a few others further up from the border are advertising them.

Nekarsulm

McCorry Agri just across the border from Ballyconnel still have the creosote posts.

When they are gone I think I'll be going clipEx or similar.

Have used single slats for hanging gates, using ones removed from tanks.

I put two "back to back" (ie, the surface that the animal walks on, against each other) and clamp them together with the top and bottom hangers.

1 foot bucket on the digger and dig as small a hole as possible, 5 to 6 foot deep (11 foot slat used).

Stand up the slat, you'll be using the digger arm for this, and back fill.

Compact the soil stone around the post as you go, or throw in a mixerfull of concrete around the butt if its a long gate being hung.

kevthegaff

Knocked down a clipex stake yesterday, no hardship whatsoever and staple(although expensive) should last longer. I'll replace broken ones with clip ex from now on with timber or concrete for strainers

Cattlepen

I have clipex for a while now but I’m still not convinced by them. I think there is greater potential for injury to man and beast with them. Very sharp edges at the top of them.

Also they are desperate to look at. Very industrial looking

kevthegaff

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120633139#Comment_120633139

Have u most of the farm with them, they are sharp

Cattlepen

No. I always used creosote posts with sheepwire and Barb. I only got them to run double strand of electric in a few places. IMO it would look pretty shite if it was all done with clipex

endainoz

I think they look a great job to be honest, wouldn't consider them industrial anyway. They are a bit sharp alright, but one could make the same argument for barbed wire or whitethorn.

patsy_mccabe

How about using rebar as posts. I've it done here along water trenches. Have some up over 10 years and not a bother. Use screw on insulators from Gallagher. I put a bend at the top to stop cattle getting injured if they were to jump on top. It also acts as a handle to push the 18" typically into the ground. Only good for straight runs though.

Rebar fencing - 1.jpg

Rebar fencing - 2.jpg

Gallagher Screw-On Insulator 25Pk 5.8'' White (coopsuperstores.ie)

kevthegaff

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120633307#Comment_120633307

That's class

hopeso

I wonder if these are as good as they sound? The price is probably something crazy……..

https://www.scanpole.com/en/our-products/fencing/poleplus/?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Scanpole+-+Fencing+-+Ireland+-+Liikenne&utm_content=Heavy+equipment+-+Ireland_Pole%2B+-+Sheep+-+Heavy+equipment+-+Ireland+%E2%80%93+kopio_Facebook_Mobile_Feed&fbclid=IwAR288uGrhLJDr2cZYaT0Iu6qcBL4xjK3C-VZCDNl_pqt05YrZfTqIsKljfA

Water John

Interesting, the damp Irish climate will test them.

148multi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120721553#Comment_120721553

Teagasc had a leaflet years ago showing how to preserve fence posts with copper sulfate and another chemical.

Memory failing me.

memorystick

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120633307#Comment_120633307

They won’t rot anyway. What length do they come in? 20 foot I assume? How much is a length?

Farmer near me doing some serious work on a mile of fencing on a main road

JCB pulled up the old fencing.

Postdriver put in wooden posts yesterday and they're working on the wire mesh today.

Serious money involved looking at the quality of the posts and amount of machinery used

patsy_mccabe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120723631#Comment_120723631

6.1m. Size is 12mm. You will get probably 4 posts made per length. I've mine about 18" into the ground. Some up about 10 years, so no they won't rot away.

Quick google search gave this price €12.30 per length.

12mm High Tensile Re Enforcing Bar 6M Twisted (grange.ie)

funkey_monkey

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120723743#Comment_120723743

Did they just the fence out with the posts and wire still attached?

I've got a pile like that lying in a field from some fencing work that I need to get rid off. Was going to burn the posts out of it but is there another or better way to get it disposed of?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120724353#Comment_120724353

It was posts with 2 levels of wooden cross bar.

They just pulled them all up with a grabber.

New posts seem very robust and have mesh fencing attached.

Looks like they just piled the old ones up in a corner for now .

Ill try get some photos tomorrow

Itryhard

How would the rebar work with barb wire?

patsy_mccabe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120725731#Comment_120725731

I've only used it with high tensile wire and along water trenches.

148multi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120725731#Comment_120725731

Might work ok if galvanised

Some photos of the fencing job near me. It's 1.5 km of road frontage.

Itryhard

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120726719#Comment_120726719

Hi, do you mean galvanised rebar?8

funkey_monkey

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120726968#Comment_120726968

Odd wire to be using. Wonder what it is to be used for.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120728678#Comment_120728678

I'll keep an eye out and let you know. I don't remember ever seeing livestock in it but you never know.

Theres a house being built in a derelict site halfway down the fence so maybe it's part of their land. I'll have to ask one of the locals.

Castlekeeper

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120728784#Comment_120728784

That might make sense. Looking at what's inside it would make me question what he's fencing it for at all (at all).

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120729108#Comment_120729108

The fences that were there previously were rotten

50HX

That sort of fencing is being erected around here as well any where a road has been widened/by pass etc

Some waste of money

paddysdream

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120728678#Comment_120728678

Horse wire from looking at the pics.Hard to tell if thats superknot wire or perhaps 11/127/8 or a variety thereof.Looks to be slightly taller than sheep wire so perhaps 3ft.

Would imagine that if its a horse fence there would be a strand of electric over it although would be an odd fence for roadside fencing of horses.Perhaps to keep in dogs,poultry etc?

Either ways thats a pretty expensive fence as any of that horse wire is 200/300 per 50m roll so 1.5k would take 30 plus rolls of wire.