A Varadkar Excuse (King Charles III Coronation)

RoTelly

So Varadkar seems to have 2 excuses when it comes to his "private life"

1. I am individual I deserve time off
2. My partner is a private individual

Yes he is correct on both points but unfortunately has Taoiseach or Tainiste he must be aware of public perception and he must be aware that he represents our country.

And if your partner (Husband/Wife/Boyfriend/Girlfriend) is brought to a public event they become a public representative also its the nature of the game, can you imagine if Mrs Higgins started posting on Insta to her sistas?

Whats your exact issue op?

Yurt2

On a private level, many people would probably agree that the trappings of the Coronation were somewhat silly, however he was there more or less representing the State - even if it is by proxy with his partner. So making sexual innuendos on the Insta and treating it like you're going to the Trinity Ball isn't big or clever.

There's a level of immaturity that both Leo and partner have displayed pretty regularly.

No one is asking them to be buttoned up sourpusses, but I think if an invite is issued to you as the Chief Executive of the country to a major State event of your nearest neighbour, maybe don't pick your nose in front of the cameras and tell your partner to stop making penis jokes on social media.

RoTelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120600277#Comment_120600277

That this type of excuse is not a good one or a proper one.

Sorry I thought I'd made that clear!

kippy

I haven't seen the postings but when you are invited to attend an event such as a Kings coronation you would be expected to show some respect. When you are there as the guest of a senior politician representing another nation I think this is doubly so.

LV seems to use this line a fair bit and while he may be his own private individual he wouldn't have been there without being LVs partner and with that comes some responsibilities.

I think it best if he apologies for his actions and we all move on. If it is deemed serious enough one would hope the electorate treat it as such next time out.

nachouser

"Lads, will you ever just **** off? Most of you detest the Monarchy anyway."

That would probably have been the correct response, but lacking somewhat in tact.

...Ghost...

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120600277#Comment_120600277

The issue is not with the OP, it's with the leader of our country and his boyfriend. Both have acted like disrespectful morons. One posting on insta despite it not being allowed at the event. The other excusing the behaviour with a totally BS excuse.

Montage of Feck

The coronation was a silly pantomime, so I'm not too bothered. But of late LV has shown himself up a bit as an obnoxious "frat boy" type character, this incident only adds to that assumption.

Be right back

I wonder who leaked the Instagram posts? Was he asked why would he pick his nose in full view of the cameras at a foreign state occasion?

I’m absolutely outraged about [insert complete non-issue here] and feel that [individual/organisation/party/Government/State] should be [arrested/forced to resign/shot dead/started again/disbanded/declared illegal]

[Pearse/Connolly/Collins] is rolling in his grave.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120600364#Comment_120600364

So his excuses are not good but by your own admission they are correct excuses?

Which is it?

Yurt2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120600417#Comment_120600417

That's a predictable response from you I must say.

Most people aren't outraged, merely withered at consistent immature displays from Leo. He and partner were there representing the State. Between Leo digging for gold in his nasal passage and Matt clowning around on Instagram with innuendos about sceptres and rods, they should stay at home the next time an invite issued to a major foreign State event.

Their job was a simple one: fly to London, attend the ceremony, and get home without making an ar*e of yourself or the State. Mission failed.

NSAman

If he doesn't want his boyfriend making stupid comments then he shouldn't have brought him with.

Technically he is representing the country. If Matt didn't want to do that he should have stayed at home.

Varadkar is all about making excuses for himself and his other half, anything that suits himself is fine and to hell with diplomacy and common sense.

When the tax payer is footing the bill, you AND your partner are representing the country... it's not that difficult to understand!

hotmail.com

It's very embarrassing for a doctor, for Leo and his party.

RoTelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120600417#Comment_120600417

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120600440#Comment_120600440

What is the point of having a discussion board if you can be outraged :)

They are correct as far as his private life is concern but he seems to bring some of that to the fore in relation to his public life and public commitments.

It is a half heart excuse and yes I am not a huge fan of the monarch or Britain or Varadkar but they should be respectful towards one another.

MisterAnarchy

Varadkar is just a horrible liability, another week another gaffe.

You might accept these gaffes if he were anyway capable as a politician but he isnt, he isnt fit to run a corner shop.

An arrogant, incompetent, talentless, publicity seeking man.

Am embarrassment to the country. Varadkar is constantly bringing his role whether it is as Taoiseach or Tanaiste into disrepute. You would have thought he would have communicated the diplomatic sensitivities and expectations to his partner prior to the event.

Archduke Franz Ferdinand

The impression l get off both varadkar and his partner Matt is that they’re a right pair of sneering, jeering twats, the posts made by Matt at the coronation confirm to me that Matt is a sneer who doesn’t know his place. They were representing the country, even though he is just varadkars partner , it looks bad , he/they no idea of how to behave…do they sneer at us plebs in the same way l wonder???……I’d say so

EchoIndia

Were they sitting side-by-side at the coronation, or separately, does anyone know?

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120600400#Comment_120600400

Has Leo blamed SF yet, that's his usual MO, get out jail card

nacho libre

I have always got the impression Leo is a bit smug and too good for the little people. Perhaps I am doing him a disservice but that's the way he comes across.

Feisar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120600600#Comment_120600600

Corner shop, I see what you did there...

_Kaiser_

It never ceases to amaze me how people are surprised whenever things like this happen. You'd think that he hadn't been a senior politician who is always in the media at every opportunity for over a decade now.

Leo is all about Leo. Whatever he thinks will serve him best he'll do/say. It has nothing to do with such trivialities as the office, the country and certainly not the little people. It's all about his profile and his ambitions.

But then we didn't want a competent politician as Taoiseach. Even the FG membership didn't want him as Taoiseach. We wanted someone that we could make the poster child for how far we've come. This is what happens when identity and spin is put before suitability.

When McEntee becomes FG leader and maybe even Taoiseach herself at some point (it'll probably happen!) we'll all read about how groundbreaking it is in our history and how great it is to have such a great example for the world. But, just as Leo before her, don't look too far into their achievements or statements before that day or you may be disappointed!

.Donegal.

I’m sure Charles can empathise. When he told Camilla he wanted to be reincarnated as her tampon he didn’t expect it make the papers either.

Count Dracula

Varadkar does seem to make some people cringe.

But the whiff of pretentious outrage from his many online dissenters is very apparent from some of the malign rhetoric he is generating here?

In another breadth most of them would be looking to throw mud at the coronation.

That is cringe.

What happened or was said anyways ? like really? All I have just read is a pile of shight, am I wasting my time contributing to this thread, what exactly happened that has the Irish population seemingly squirming in disgust?

TooTired123

If you’d have asked me before hand to nominate the current world political leader/crowned head/dictator /dignitary/whatever at any huge televised event like this most likely to let him/herself down in a purile way, I’d have instantly said Varadker.

Eveyone else there (quite a big crowd) managed to attend it without incident.

This is why we can’t have nice things.

He’s a less entertaining more unlikeable version of Boris Johnson. Both he and his fella come across as the type of people who talk s**t to waiting staff and retail assistants.

maik3n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120600927#Comment_120600927

I completely missed this myself but apparently Matt was doing a private instagram live thing, during the coronation with a group of friends and made some off colour jokes. He has since apologised.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/news/politics/arid-41139637.html

The usual anti-Leo crowd are using it as a stick to beat Leo with and want Matt cancelled for it.

Count Dracula

It is a private Instagram group?

You gives a flying phuck? Really?

What exactly did he say that has anything to do with Leo Varadkar?

What actually DID he say? does anyone know?

StevenToast

Theres an arrogance and smugness about Varadker.

Its extremely off putting when it comes to voting for his party, even though the alternative is just as nauseating...

Normal people dont get into politics....

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120601212#Comment_120601212

What do you mean cancelled?

Are there people trying to interfere with his employment?

Grassy Knoll

for two educated, professionals who it could be argued should know better, they have let themselves and Ireland down. This is yet another clanger from Varadkar. I might personally agree with the comments and that some of the ceremony was ridiculous, but were I a guest I would keep my views to myself. Even an uneducated, low class oaf such as I would know that. The question is at what point Varadkar becomes a political liability….

standardg60

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120601239#Comment_120601239

It's in the links if you read them.

Guests were specifically asked to turn their phones off but obviously he didn't feel that applied to him.

Sorolla

If Matt was there as a private individual - who paid for his accommodation?

• who paid for his flights ?

i would suggest he reimburse the public purse (if he was in a private capacity there)

WheelieKing

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120600600#Comment_120600600

No more needs to be said.

Yurt2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120601412#Comment_120601412

Given the President was there also, I'd imagine all of them piled on the Government jet and that he shared digs with Leo on the Friday.

The expense of having him there isn't the concern.

Feisar

Surely it's fairly kitsch to be faffing around on Instagram when attending a formal function of a head of state? I'm not looking to be outraged or Leo bashing however surely we expect our leaders to carry themselves in a certain way when performing public duties and that in turn extends to plus ones? Although the plus one thing is pretty dated and probably goes back to the time of kings and queens anyway.

BrianD3

Wouldn't surprise me if Varadkar himself leaked this stuff in an attempt to seem edgy, gain kudos from anti monarchy people or to encourage homophobic comments, allowing him to play the victim. Then if the reaction wasn't what he hoped for, he has the excuse that it wasn't him but his partner who behaved inappropriately, the bold boy.

Larbre34

Barely disguised homophobia is all this is. Barely.

Some people just can't get past our gay doctor Taoiseach and his gay doctor partner.

Small minded ephemeral nonsense.

Hamachi

It’s just classless, immature behaviour. Whatever you think of the coronation-related pagentry, you shut up, smile, and represent your country with decorum. This isn’t very difficult.

Say what you like about about previous leaders like Bertie and Enda Kenny, but at least they had the basic manners to show respect to their hosts when representing Ireland in an official capacity.

How many public figures has Varadkar blatantly insulted now? Trump, the Clintons, prince Charles. That’s before we even mention the cringeworthy fawning over Kylie Minogue (poor Kylie) and lobbing the gob on some guy in the George, whilst supposedly in a committed relationship. He’s an utter liability.

The sooner Varadkar and his no mark boyfriend/partner are returned to obscurity, the better.

Feisar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120601498#Comment_120601498

Yer taking the piss I assume?

NSAman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120601498#Comment_120601498

OH BULL SH!T!

Homophobia me arse! His partner acted like a tool and was paid for by Irish Tax payers to attend and be there.

Everything is homophobia these days if De Ghays act like complete uneducated morons.

Matt acted like a complete and utter DICK. Yes a DICK, I suppose that is homophobic to say????

skimpydoo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120600417#Comment_120600417

Would you say the same if it had been Mary Lou who had done this?

Lofidelity

The opposition TDs are keeping away from this one.

Giblet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120601311#Comment_120601311

Please don't, he's my fecking doctor!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120600600#Comment_120600600

Aren't you a Trump fan...

skimpydoo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120601212#Comment_120601212

If any Taoiseach of Ireland and their partner had done this I would be using a stick to beat them too. When you are representing your country in a political policy, your privacy and private life goes out the window.

skimpydoo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120601515#Comment_120601515

Sadly not, it's the latest in a long line of excuses used by the Leo or FG fan club when you dare to question their leader.

CIARAN_BOYLE

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120601239#Comment_120601239

350 is a bit much to consider a private instagram group. Thats a bad judgement.

He was there as Varadkar's plus 1. He wasn't invited as a doctor or a guest in which case his behaviour would only reflect upon himself.

As the partner of the Taoiseach he was representing Ireland. His job is to sit there, look pretty/handsome and shut up.

Personally I think that Varadkar should not bring his partner to public and diplomatic events if he isn't capable to shutting up.

TooTired123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120601498#Comment_120601498

I assume this is an attempt at sarcasm that has totally misfired?

Count Dracula

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120601656#Comment_120601656

What DID he say ?

I don't care, I like Leo and his husband. I find it hilarious that he used the Taoiseach's seal to write to Kylie Minogue, I think it is kind of cute and endearing.

350 is enough that no one on this thread is able to tell me what actually happened?

Count Dracula

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120601533#Comment_120601533

She is too busy getting her house done up for free.

I do like Scary Mary as well though, she is a good person, she just got in with the wrong crowd is all.