Is Ireland's fake tan use problematic?

radiotrickster

An article in the Irish Times is suggesting Irish women shouldn't wear fake tan because it's like a costume that lets them dress up as another race without having to deal with racism.

I can probably count on one hand the amount of times I've seen someone with fake tan so dark you could mistake them for another race. Mostly it's just very obvious they're white and wearing tan because they're more orange than brown. Is this really a serious problem?

www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2023/05/11/irish-womens-obsession-with-fake-tan-is-problematic/

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tesla_newbie

TomTomTim

When a white Irish woman dons fake tan for a night out, she is wearing a costume that allows her to experience a fleeting taste of a more exotic identity, with none of the obstacles people of colour face

😂😂😂

What is wrong with these people? Irish women probably shouldn't wear fake tan, as it looks crap. Racializing this is absurd, as none of them want to be another race, they just want more colour.

TomTomTim

The writer couldn't look more stereotypical if she tried 🤡

Baba Yaga

i do often wonder where are all these orange people from...

GSBellew

If you go about life seeking to be offended you will invariably be able to find something that offends you.

gifted

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120583931#Comment_120583931

From the Willy Wonka Factory

GavPJ

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120583931#Comment_120583931

The Auld Black North. :-) Or are you allowed say that anymore???

thefallingman

Utter garbage, but i find fake tan looks ridiculous on anyone i've no idea why people want to wear it. It never looks natural but each to their own but to call it racist is silly and just click bait.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120583921#Comment_120583921

Stereotypical of what?

WrenBoy

Ooooooh the next decade is gonna be wild for race relations on this wee island. Buckle up

GavPJ

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120583943#Comment_120583943

Exactly.

People shouldn't wear fake tan because they look stupid wearing it.

All the girls in secondary schools covering themselves in the stuff. Ridiculous.

Boggles

All well and good for her but she has never had to contend with a freckly bosom.

thefallingman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120583967#Comment_120583967

you know this is so true, i mean it's started already, alot of people already have a hatred for ukrainians due to the benefits they get, while we leave our homeless dying slowly on the street and the irish elderly without medical care. I can only see this feeling growing personally.

GLaDOS

If someone posted that on boards I'd assume they were trolling.

TomTomTim

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120583964#Comment_120583964

An obese woman with blue hair, you know exactly what I'm talking about. All she needed was a pair of hipster glasses and a bull ring nose piercing to complete the look.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120583987#Comment_120583987

Complete what look?

If I knew exactly what you were imagining in your head I wouldn't have asked.

thefallingman

even though i'd never use the stuff (fake tan), it's still better than sun beds though

HBC08

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120583921#Comment_120583921

Hahaha! I imagined her before I saw her.

WrenBoy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120583991#Comment_120583991

The San Fran right on writers who look for every angle possible to claim every benign activity is an act of oppression or supremacy.

Didnt you know even hiking is racist:

https://www.sierraclub.org/outdoors/2016/12/unbearable-whiteness-hiking-and-how-solve-it

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jul/13/hiking-african-american-racism-nature

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120584023#Comment_120584023

That's a completely different publication with completely different writers in a completely different market? Also from 7 years ago and 5 years ago respectively? Nobody in the photos of either article you linked to looks like the writer in the 4th post?

Pauliedragon

I was wondering why they all looked orange down the pub. I just assumed they were Trump supporters. It is funny though we are obsessed with a tan in this country. All the young ones at work are all giggling at the thought of getting their "colour" when they head to Spain in a few weeks. Good luck to them though each to their own.

Oompa loompas might be offended by the fake tan wearing women.

Ducks should also be offended by the women walking around with their stupid looking lips after getting them pumped full of gloop.

awec

When I go on holidays and come home with a bit of a tan am I engaging in cultural appropriation?

Better pack lots of factor 50, just in case.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120584088#Comment_120584088

Knew all sorts of Irish girls in the 00's that loved their 'bronzer' and many who didn't like you calling it fake tan.

Yurt2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rUHEE9nlA8

PROBLEMATIC

erlichbachman

caught a glimpse of the Ireland rugby ladies team whilst switching channels a while ago and it was all orange, cmon ladies embrace the pale pastieness one has been gifted from the creator

Wibbs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120583964#Comment_120583964

Blue hair, mien like a bulldog licking piss off a nettle sticking her unwanted oar in? Let me think....

Oh there it is, the usual right on "progressive" looking for offence and desperately seeking the attention that she would otherwise desperately struggle to find. While trotting out all the banal buzzwords of her faith, no doubt bilingually; marginalised/inclusive/cultural appropriation(if Oompa Loompas are offended)/sisterhood/Latinx(only used by a tiny percentage of equally right on Hispanics in the US and utterly ridiculous here)/Eurocentric/privilege and so forth. One imagines with some conviction a mouthful of pronouns in play too.

Of course these eejits always suffer from a total lack of self awareness and an irony bypass, as she happily witters on about how society tells women what to think and how they should look while telling women what to think and how they should look. Likely silly hair colours, an excess of cake and dungarees.

Such types are momentarily amusing I grant you and media editors love them as they get clicks and people talking, but I would rather they just quietly bugger off.

cheese sandwich

She describes herself as Latinx which is a giveaway.

Is that hair colour natural? If not, what right does she think she has to appropriate a colour that isn’t native to her race?

Larbre34

We must assume that the writer was really struggling for some content and this was the swill she came up with.

I blame the editors for passing it for publication myself.

My wife has five siblings. Thanks to her parents genes, two of them are very fair and take the sun badly while four are dark haired, sallow skinned and take a deep tan by merely walking through a warm room.

Now fake tan could not hope to replicate the deep tan that my wife's sister gets, for example, but if my wife did choose to apply fake tan to resemble her sister's summer complexion, it would hardly make her are a racist, would it?

DeadHand

If the author finds aspects of Irish society problematic, she is free to return to Ecuador.

cheese sandwich

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120584321#Comment_120584321

Jennifer O’Connell has just been appointed Opinion Editor. I suspect we’re going to see a lot more of these sub-New York Times-type identity politics pieces

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120584318#Comment_120584318

Would bet my life savings she has "she/her" on her linkedin page

thegame983

What a f**king clown.

TomTomTim

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120584318#Comment_120584318

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/06/hispanic-voters-latinx-term-523776

They really need to learn to respect the wishes on minorities

Star Bingo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120583967#Comment_120583967

Absolute buck wild brother. . off the scale you thought you couldn’t bear bitchiness prior hunker down even dudes are gettin in on it now. Sure I don’t even know what’s in that stuff but bleach and formaldehyde are becoming a bigger problem

zozimus

This just tells me that if you want to find a problem you will. Nobody owns skin colour or hair type etc. This notion that something that's typical to a 'race' of people can only be said, work or appropriated by them is utter tripe. Being offended is a hobby for some.

HBC08

Everything that's ever been said,done,written or created can be said to be "problematic" using the increasingly bizarre metrics like in the article above

There's seems to be a bit of a race to the bottom (pun intended) to come up with ever more stupid and more ridiculous "problematic " things.Always seems to be overweight,angry,privileged white kids aswell.

It would be a good thread on boards,give me any word,any topic, any act,anything that's ever happened and we can bring it back to being racist .

Frank Bullitt

That is some jump for creative writing. Next she will be telling us to wear factor 50 so we don't get a tan naturally in case we offend someone.

How did the editor let this crap see the light of day?

PoisonIvyBelle

I don't like it in general myself, but it's a "fashion" thing and it's a stretch to call it cultural appropriation, which is what she's doing. It's mainly traveler women who wear so much of it that they basically look black.

whisky_galore

Racist:no. Ridiculous looking:yes. Most diy plastered-on fake tan looks stupid.

Extra points if paired with 'Angry Birds' eyebrows.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120583943#Comment_120583943

These people want to cause division.

Division is the whole point.

Ignore their claims to promote unity, mutual respect and so forth. That's a front.

Ultimately they seek to inject as much division within society as they can get away with.

The worst part of all is that they're succeeding.

buried

It's fairly stupid alright, but the travellers seem to like it, so that blue haired wan better get used to it.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120584311#Comment_120584311

Well now golly, you just gave her what she wanted surely.

desperately seeking the attention that she would otherwise desperately struggle to find

And dying hair, that's been part of the punk movement for decades but now we associate it derogatively with 'progressives?'

Nothing in the photograph ie. her look said anything about buzzwords, faith, culture, latinx this or that. But I accept that you and others have adopted that as the stereotype associated with the look now.

Of course these eejits always suffer from a total lack of self awareness and an irony bypass, as she happily witters on about how society tells women what to think and how they should look while telling women what to think and how they should look. Likely silly hair colours, an excess of cake and dungarees.

Those sound like the stereotype naturally though, not a critical analysis of this individuals writing.

This is exactly how there have been taboos on people with tattoos for god only knows how long, for instance.

griffdaddy

It's peak bullsh1t. Surely this has to be the height of it and we're on the way back to normality now. Would make sense if it was in the Ross O'Carroll part of the Magazine as a piss take maybe.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120585103#Comment_120585103

It's bored people with nothing better to do, who after having achieved all their social goals, now find themselves inventing non-existent social problems.

And they tend to be very unattractive and have no sense in fashion.

NSAman

*People to avoid:*

Dyed hair blue or Pink with nose rings, especially if over weight.

ANYONE using pronouns!

women who look like men, men who look like women.

People with absolutely no fashion sense who think they look lovely.

The above describes 99% of those I have met who are always offended by something.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120585255#Comment_120585255

Ironically pointing out the people you are offended by...

HBC08

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120585262#Comment_120585262

Take it to Twitter Smurfett.

hayrabit

bet she shaves/waxes herself. no need for it, beyond cutting her head hair

unless:

she's appropriating the affliction of an Alopecia universalis sufferer - in doing so she's mocking representatives from many genders and ethnicities all for the sake of "beauty". Disgusting!!

https://www.niams.nih.gov/health-topics/alopecia-areata

• Alopecia universalis. In this type, which is rare, there is a complete or nearly complete loss of hair on the scalp, face, and rest of the body.

😒

banie01

It's clearly a serious issue. A few beers in you, and you meet Rihanna in the club. Take her home and rock her world,only to wake up next morning to find herself looking patchier than a Dalmatian and your sheets looking like something Spud had slept in!

Won't the purveyors of St Tropez and all the other tanning muck have some consideration for the mammies left washing the ****, I mean sheets!

FishOnABike

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120584318#Comment_120584318

aye, more from the professionally and perpetually offended while simultaneously appropriating Smurf culture themselves https://smurfsfanon.fandom.com/wiki/Hair 🙄