MG Cyberster

Patser

https://youtu.be/USV028TttBI

Officially announced last month in Shanghai, and unveiled in the flesh in the UK today, so probably well worth having it's own thread.

A 2 seater EV roadster, with scissor doors and folding roof at hopefully a reasonable price!!!! Imagine!!

Ive been following it’s development for a while, and have a real interest in getting one. I just hope that a few little red flags that are threatening to pop up don't.

I mean weight will be near 2 tonnes

A yoke steering wheel that could be cool or disaster.

This for a boot.......

https://ibb.co/J5r5YjV

And most worryingly, the price that even last month was being hinted at as being low £40s sterling, as MG wanted to be a 'disruptor' to prices - look at what they did with MG4 pricing compared to competition (it shares MG4s chassis). Now suddenly is being hinted at low £50k. That's already a hell of jump for a car still not put til Summer 2024

MojoMaker

It will sell at whatever the market will bear, currently I'd say keep climbing from 50K as there's lots of folks with serious wedges under Irish mattresses after Covid. Serious wedges.

Miscreant

I'd say the price tag for this will begin with a 7. What other full electric convertible sportscars are available in the market? I can't think of a single one other than the Tesla Roadster and they can't be got. MG will pretty much have the market to themselves.

ted1

No shame in robbing the name and steering wheel.

AMKC

Looks lovely but affordable it certainly will not be. Starting from at least £55,000 in the UK so expect at least €70,000 or €80,000 here. Will not been seeing many if any at all on Irish roads at that price.

Stevie2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120582715#Comment_120582715

Who is the market for this though? people that like driving won't want an €70,000, 1850kg 300bhp tank, it weights more than a transit van, I suppose the 2000kg version with 500bhp would capture the performance market, but that's closing in on Porsche money then.

I'd sooner a 1000kg MX5 and a Model 3 performance

Patser

Can't see them going over €70,000 on this. That'd price it above the M3 performance and double a new MX5. If you want performance you'd go Tesla, if you want convertible you'd go MX5 or BMW Z4. MG is still relatively unknown in Ireland, let alone dropping €70k on one.

I'm predicting €52k to €55k, unless grant, inflation, recession or exchange rates do something very dramatic over next year

Patser

Also a lot can change in a year, they may not have an empty playing field by then.

There is a confirmed convertible EV Mini launching soon, BYD have been spotted testing a convertible version of their Han model, and another Chinese manufacturer Neta aunched a speedster version of their GT in Shanghai (Chinese market)

Patser

And just to completely contradict all my optimism above Autocar have it at £55,000 and £65,000 sterling meaning @AMKC 's predictions of 70 here is very likely.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/official-2024-mg-cyberster-rivals-bmw-z4-%C2%A355000

Massive overpricing IMO unless they really want to strangle demand so they don't need much production.

Considering there's a dual motor MG4 sports model also on the way, for rumoured around mid-40s, a jump to 70 for a new body on that running gear is massive

Stevie2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120583636#Comment_120583636

M3P is the best value car in the country, it's just insanely good

500bhp, 500km range, €50,000

If I wasn't broke I'd be buying one

ELM327

I saw this for the first time on Nobby's youtube channel yesterday and I like it. Even more so in line of the Tesla announcements this morning meaning we're looking elsewhere for our next 2 Evs

celtic_oz

They announced an e-motion in 2017 I think which looked brill : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cS7pq3X2RQ

the Cyberster is nice but would have preferred a non convertible

Patser

Autoexpress now saying £50,000 starting price estimated - jumping about a bit. I'd wonder are they just 'suggesting' numbers to see the feedback

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/mg/cyberster

Miscreant

I find that "starting prices" very rarely are the reality once the cars come to market. Either way, the Treasure Ireland tax will push this into the €70k mark regardless of what the UK is. Our SEAI grant is also reducing to €3.5k from July so that will have an impact on the list price here. I doubt they will sell many here in any case, we're not really a country of cabriolet owners as much as the UK.

ELM327

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120639383#Comment_120639383

There would be no grant for this car anyway given its over the eligible list price

Oscar_Madison

The MG name in itself doesn’t exactly shout confidence either, given some of their appalling quality in the past- I know this is a total reboot but still, might have been better to leave the nostalgia behind.

For those prices it will need to be bug-free

...Ghost...

I want one. How about you? Being released next year. Single RWD or Dual Motor AWD. No real specs yet, but near to the production model.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0K7fg2YkYA

JohnC.

The badge is too big.

Red Silurian

Interesting that they use the word "Cyber" in the name... Lawsuit incoming from Cybertruck manufacturer I think

ted1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120693751#Comment_120693751

CYBERtruck and roadSTER

that kind of stuff just makes me laugh and think how pathetic.

JohnC.

I don't like the Cyber on either of them. It's a bit 90s.

Patser

Worrying that that Fully Charged preview shows the (admittedly tall) presenter mentioning that his head is sticking up higher then windscreen and that top of windscreen is pretty much across his eyeline.

Sounds neither safe nor comfortable - and considering this is a 2 seater based on a chassis for a hatchback - where the hell has all the space gone, why is the cabin so cramped looking, the yet unrevealed boot looks to be small too?

Can't all be just to have a big long bonnet for an electric engine?

Redfox25

Maybe there is no boot in favor of a frunk to give it the sports car look.

Odd that it's cramped inside.

unkel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120703963#Comment_120703963

Jack is 6'5. That's 1.96m

A bit taller than most Irish men 😂

Patser

I'm 6'3 and prefer not to get flies smacking me in forehead at 120km/h - also nice to see the road, not frame of windscreen

Miscreant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120708057#Comment_120708057

This may not be the car for you then.

I had a convertible a few years ago as a "fun" car and one of my brother's in law was dying to try it out... He is 6'4 and was bitterly disappointed that he could not see through the windscreen crossbar. Ruined the experience for him.

I can't imagine spending upwards of 70k on a car I could not drive due to space.

Patser

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120708882#Comment_120708882

Thing is I was always a convertible fan, until kid came along, and then I became an electric fan.

So even in an old Peugeot 205 convertible, Saab 9-3 and BMW Z4 I've never had an issue like this - and as said it's a surprising design flaw given the space the chassis gives them to play with. I'm driving an MG4 now, which has loads of internal room - even with driver seat fully back, passengers in rear still have great leg room. Also have decent headroom with seat at highest setting.

So given the Cyberster is that chassis, slightly longer, and wider; why does the seating suddenly seem so crammed in in all directions - and yes I know this is based mostly on a very tall reviewer.

Miscreant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120708937#Comment_120708937

It is like a reverse Tardis in that respect then. I have driven the MG4 and found it to have great space, so much so that I put a deposit on to buy one and eventually backed out due to the delivery timelines involved. I would love to know what MG have done with this to make it so cramped then. I wonder is it to do with shoehorning the batteries into the floor and the consequent need to have the seats at a higher level while keeping the overall silhouette of the car low...

Patser

Might just be as simple as this is still a static, pre-production 95% complete model- so since no one can drive it they've put in massive, eye catching, no adjustable seats.

In production it might have smaller, non bolstered seats that can go back further, and down

Patser

So after about 3 years of watching, and drooling over this Frank Keane have been in touch to say they'll have it in house Saturday to view (not drive), so I've a feeling this will be when the bubble bursts.

When 1st shown as a concept years ago, it was proposed as an MX5 killer EV with a 'disruptive' price similar to how the MG4 undercut the VW id3 market. Cheap, quirky, happy.

Now it's a halo car that will undercut Porsche or Audi, a mature cruiser of a car and as per video below hopefully below €80,000.....

Given the collapse in price that the Taycan is currently showing in the UK, and general EV price war ongoing, that's a brave thing to do, but I get the feeling more and more that MG view the Cyberster more as a sales gimmick to put in window, trade shows and magazines than something they actually want to sell.

https://youtu.be/b7IjuKVwOa8?si=lOhLYY6Nomw1NOhz

Maybe the price will collapse Taycan style and I can pick up a year old ex-demo in 2025, but I cannot afford a something about 25k overvalued.

Might be time to start drooling over next 'cheap' EV toy

https://carnewschina.com/2023/04/20/neta-gt-speedster-debuts-as-a-convertible-4-seater-gt-coupe-launched-for-25900-usd/

mailforkev

The Cyberster is pretty big in real life, saw it at the Nevo show last week.

I’d say it’s around the same size as a 911, possibly larger, was pretty wide in particular.

Patser

Prices finally announced in UK

Pretty much £55,000Stg for single motor, £60,000 for dual. Configurator is live but barring body colour, roof colour and interior colour - little to configure and small differences to price

https://www.mgcyberster.co.uk/configurator/EABERAIASALAPB

celtic_oz

any price in Ireland yet ?

Patser

Nope, no release date, no price.

Not stopping MG Ireland happily spamming it on their twitter, or Linders having it up on Carzone/Done Deal

Redfox25

Would love one, about 2yrs old so some waiting ahead of me.

Will line up with mid life crisis time frame so it's a win win really.

Patser

Yeah, I'm with you. More and more thinking I'll have to wait for all the inevitable glitches to be ironed out, and the inevitable price crash in the UK as everyone buys on their tax/wages deal

celtic_oz

hey ladies ..is there a chargin point around here somewhere?

Patser

But at speed the wind with the roof down pulls his face taut, so he looks 19 again

Patser

So after yet more waiting and drooling, I see MG Ireland have finally put a price on it

€70,000 and €75,000 for dual motor. Yeah that's the good old add a bit more irish way of pricing (£55,000Stg in Uk) ( @AMKC looks to have got it bang on in May 23)

https://www.mg.ie/mg-cyberster/

MarkN

Drove one on a track during the summer, dual motored. Very quick, very grippy. It’s a lot but if it was a German brand with that level of power….. €€€€.

I believe they were waiting for Revenue.

Patser

Actually got to sit in one, and mess around with it a bit today.

Really is a good looking car, and there's a good bit of space in the cabin, even at my height (6'1") but I could tell that I'm right on that borderline of too tall/head over windscreen that people have mentioned. In fact roof closed and I could hit my head off it be stretching slightly.

Too many screens, doing too little each, could have been simplified to reduce price. You really can see that it was designed with a yoke steering wheel in mind, as round wheel blocks side screens. In fact the round wheel even has cuts/creases where you feel yoke would have ended. Almost as if designers petulantly put the there in protest after been told to lose the yoke.

Biggest immediate gripe I'd have, a mind boggling cheapness to the car, is the phone holder. They have a lovely little slot, cut into centre console for your phone. Perfect. Does car have wireless charging, like my MG4 has...no. Does it have wireless Android auto....no. Do your phone in it's cosy little slot is fairly useless. You have to connect it up via wire from the centre console box, where there's no gap to run to the slot, or room for the usb connection. Just such a cheap thing. MG just sort out wire Android Auto!!! And pass it on to MG4 owners too.

Other little things, car is bigger than it needs to be. The lovely long front bonnet has no storage in it, so its just long for the sake of it. Boot is a bit small and awkward to put stuff into, but this is nit picking as its a 2 seater convertible, its never really supposed to be about practicality.

It still just looks lovely, much more interesting that nearly everything else on offer at the moment

Edit: just heard from an owner on another forum, that there is a small gap in centre box to allow cable to thread through into phone slot to connect up phone

stesaurus

Saw one in the flesh yesterday on the N11. I hadn't realized they were released and available yet. Nice looking car but too impractical and expensive for an MG.

ted1

saw one in the wild in a EnnisKerry. Looked welll but thought the paint made it looked quite dated.

Patser

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122848973#Comment_122848973

What colour was it? The cream and red roof?

ted1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122849230#Comment_122849230

no it was some version of metallic red/wine with a black roof

Buddy Bubs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122849413#Comment_122849413

I wonder was that @MarkN doing his video? He was definitely in the vicinity of some mountains anyway

CMOTDibbler

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122849454#Comment_122849454

He said he was in the Dublin/Wicklow mountains. Enniskerry would be one of the routes out.

Buddy Bubs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122849544#Comment_122849544

Id imagine it was him. Wouldn't be too many cybersters driving around the mountains just yet

Patser

This car? Not the most enthusiastic review, but pretty on par with most others. Lovely looking car, comfy drive but flawed interior design (high sitting position, too many screens often blocked) and compromised drive (too heavy, disengaged to be sporty)

Still want one, but not at full price, need some influencer to buy them, pose in them, get bored of them and flog them on.

https://youtu.be/Zd3_njXYI_4?si=ZWDJuMrerDJJPQYP

ted1

that’ very one 😂

MarkN

It’s a beautiful looking car with unbelievable grip but it would’ve been a disservice for me to not cover the flaws in the car equally. Only my opinion too, others may not agree! 😌