Naas Racecourse - Russian Flags

Quitelife

https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/horse-racing/irish-racecourse-apologises-after-pro-29936927

Very disapointed/annoyed to see this event taking place in Naas Racecourse Co Kildare Last Sunday- seems like there used be a may day celebration over the years ( which many were unware of ) and now its hijacked by Russians living in Ireland ??

So Ukraine has been invaded with tens of thousands killed and many cities reduced to rubble and an Irish racecourse allows this event ?? are Naas Racecourse that desperate for money??

WrenBoy

It's not against the law to be Russian, I doubt the race course knew there would be such pro Ukraine invasion sentiments expressed. I believe the event is/was for people who were from former SU countries, not just Russians but the Russian contingent seems to be the largest now at the event.

opinionated3

If I had my way I'd launch them onto the next plane back to Moscow. But apparently the do-gooders say we can't do that. Madness that this stuff goes unchallenged

If I were in power, I would introduce a law that any overt public support for the Russian genocide in Ukraine is subject to having their Irish Passport revoked and/or deportation from the country.

That would shut them up.

Yurt2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120582007#Comment_120582007

I think we need to knock the naivety on the head from here on in with these events.

Russian embassy linked (diaspora organisation that's Kremlin linked and coordinates with the embassy), the promo material was all in Russian. People from former USSR countries want nothing to do with V Day any more (except for loudmouth Russian ethnics from those countries). It's Russian nationalism day now. Known brazen endorsers of the war were present and front-and-centre.

In another thread we were told all of the above wouldn't happen / wasn't true. That it's a sombre commemoration of the war dead, not a Russian ultra-nationalist pissup. Lo and behold...

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120582133#Comment_120582133

Don't saying it's racist to talk about it ,

WrenBoy

Ah, I don't think you can speak on what people from former USSR want in regards to V-day. Russians here can't be tarred with the pro war brush it's not fair, some of those in attendance may be there to only celebrate vday and meet up with others from a similar background. Of course there are those who are pro war or pro Putin but what can we do with them ? Unless we declare Russia a terrorist organisation and therefore illegal to voice support for it. We have to be inclusive of other viewpoints and cultures after all.

Yurt2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120582275#Comment_120582275

We absolutely can tar the attendees with the same brush. Both last year and this year, we were all given assurances by both the organisers (to the Irish media) and sly Putin flunkies that this was not a pro-war demonstration and that symbols such as the Z would not be permitted. Family day blah blah.

Lo and behold, prominent fascists from social media calling Ukrainians ethnic slurs were there, people wearing 'Z' regalia unchallenged were there, sprinkled with some Irish social media doses who think the same.

It's a Russian ultra nationalist sh*tbag event, just as was predicted by myself and other posters.

"Inclusivity" can go f*ck itself in this instance. They are pushing the limits of what the Irish state and people will tolerate. I'd be all for the Minister for Justice cancelling some visas off the back of this.

And have a chat with some non Russian ethnic people from former USSR states, none of them want any truck with gopnik parades like this.

rolling boh

There is no way Naas racecourse Should have facilitated this event .They must have been fast asleep if they didn't cop what was going to be displayed at this event shame on them .

TomTomTim

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120582826#Comment_120582826

What did you expect them to do? Follow the Ruskies around and see what they are up to? It's a race course after all, not the UN. Stuff like this is a great test of liberty, as it shows us how few actually believe in it when it comes down to it.

rolling boh

As far as I am concerned people showing support for Putin's invasion of Ukraine are not welcome let them go back home if they feel Russia is so great .

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120582041#Comment_120582041

Good thing it’s not up to you. Sounds unconstitutional. Even if you were “in power” you wouldn’t have “the power” to do that, the tyranny to do that is shielded from the people by the constitution. And it’s their power required to change the document.

Furze99

Action taken and Naas Racecourse losing business as a result. That's what businesses understand - hit them in their pockets - hard.

Oscar_Madison

“Nass race course was inadvertently drawn into highly sensitive geopolitical events and for that I would like to apologise to anyone who was offended by it.”

total and utter tosh- the Russians advertised this gathering- it was widely publicised as happening - Naas race course should have anticipated this and cancelled it - a total daw could have predicted this happening -

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120584638#Comment_120584638

Leave Naas racecourse to the Nazis - a totally predictable event that shouldn’t have gone ahead- donate the money made to displaced Ukrainians

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120583485#Comment_120583485

Well Naas racecourse could simply have cancelled the event due to “unforeseen circumstances”- you don’t need the constitution to do that.

SeanW

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120582910#Comment_120582910

I think they should be treated the same way as anyone else who openly (or covertly for that matter) supports genocide. Because that's what Russia is doing.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120584796#Comment_120584796

Their prerogative, and up for others to prove yes unfortunately.

elperello

Question for Naas Racecourse management.

What group made the booking ?

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120584818#Comment_120584818

We have laws in this country around incitement of hatred- unfortunately how it’s implemented its more likely you that will be prosecuted, than them.

Couldn’t possibly be seen to erode the rights of murdering bastards

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120584834#Comment_120584834

Their quoted excuse in the newspaper article quoted in the OP is a pathetic PR attempt to garner favour from the locals and consumers of that race course- it has failed miserably- I don’t need a court ruling to have view, thanks.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120584854#Comment_120584854

Likey this Auto club they advertise themselves as but the club was supposedly set up by the embassy here

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120584892#Comment_120584892

Thanks for that.

Assuming that anyone can't rock up and book a racecourse you'd wonder what due diligence they did.

Especially bearing in mind that the racecourse has been a beneficiary of government grants.

Oscar_Madison

I thought we were done with this sh1t in Ireland but obviously not- people displaying Z flags should be arrested for incitement to hatred - simple.

No law abiding citizen in Ireland wants this sh1t on their doorstep - while I don’t believe mass showing of Russian flags is illegal it is inappropriate but that’s my tough, but it’s not that - it’s the Z flag that I protest strongly against- same one this prick placed on his jeep

https://www.thesun.ie/news/8640401/russian-car-repairman-blasted-irish-jeep-controversial-symbol/amp/

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120584948#Comment_120584948

Exactly,but these guys are regularly seen driving off road vehicle around the curragh plains too ,and nothing is said to then .

I get the feeling they booked in under a car show, just happened that drift games live was taken place at mondello race track too

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120585000#Comment_120585000

Just like the swastika isn't a hate symbol to some,he's a muppet and he hasn't even got the conviction to stand by it oh it's latin ,it's for Zorro

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120585003#Comment_120585003

I saw their announcements around this “meet” a few weeks ago, as I think you might have done too (might have been in the Ukraine thread or maybe a link to a Twitter post -can’t remember ) - they told people to assemble somewhere and then they’d get directions as to where they were heading to. Obviously this was the place - I do wonder did the non Russian contingent who did not subscribe to this demonstration leave naas race course ? Or was it a total Russia-fest from the start ?

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120585059#Comment_120585059

I think it was a Russiafest from day one ,

This all started after the original invasion of Ukraine nine or ten years ago,

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120585003#Comment_120585003

If they are breaking laws on the Curragh they should be subject to enforcement like everyone else.

I never saw a car show like what was shown in pictures of this event.

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120585072#Comment_120585072

Never knew that- thanks.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120585121#Comment_120585121

It's not something that was done historically here celebrating Russia winning WW2 , which they didn't and never mention their involvement with Nazi Germany at the time,

I know the embassy used to hold and event to mark may ninth,but this victory parade car show is relatively recent

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120584948#Comment_120584948

Flying a Russian flag of convenience as a cover for what is essentially a Nazi terrorist group of people is not a legal excuse to do nothing in this country- lord knows we have enough anti-terrorist laws and Z flag carrying people are pro terrorists- it’s that simple - there’s no argument here - they should have been reported to the guards and the guards should have carried out arrests- are we that fcking naïve in this country that we’ll probably send our condolences to Russia once Putin dies? Like fck off government and policing authorities - you’re all fcking useless and care more about fcking “feelings” and Twitter votes than you do about the law.

buried

We should get NATO to bomb the Naas Racecourse in the morning. That'll teach these particular section of migrants what's what.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120585215#Comment_120585215

I'd settle for deportation,

Bombing would scare horses, sheep,and cattle in the area , can't be doing that

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120585272#Comment_120585272

There’s also a new restaurant opened in Naas not far from the racecourse- and Barnes and Noble bookshop have a branch in the town- I don’t want that closed- it’s so handy.

Oscar_Madison

This is what a person called Artur Belgard has to say on the matter.

Hmmm …Belgard…A strange surname for a Latvian…

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2023/05/11/organiser-of-wwii-victory-day-rally-in-naas-says-it-was-celebration-of-ancestors-not-russian-war-in-ukraine/

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120585429#Comment_120585429

Artur Belgard is an alias his Russian name is Artur Muizininks a director or former director of belgard motors

Oscar_Madison

…..

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120585494#Comment_120585494

Yeah that reputable firm ,

I love how he claims there was Ukrainian flags being flown along the lads in their Z t-shirts

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120585522#Comment_120585522

He’s certainly a man to be taken at his word, that’s for sure…..especially with a surname like Belgard

Yurt2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120585450#Comment_120585450

A gent by that name has an interesting prior in the courts according to the google machine. Little wonder he'd use an alias when speaking with the Irish Times.

Yurt2

"Members of the Eastern European community" 😂

Every last one of them an ethnic Russian or from Russia proper.

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120585647#Comment_120585647

Indeed- total bullsh1t PR spin

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120585647#Comment_120585647

Sure there was loads of Ukrainan flags 😂😂😂 we believe ya

For Forks Sake

Interesting thread.

https://twitter.com/EastVeterans/status/1656735117241352211

Yurt2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120585812#Comment_120585812

Ah, even the bauld Ambassador Yuri made an appearance. Where are all our sly Putinites now trying to tell us this was not Russian embassy connected and everyone there was deffo anti the war? Anyone want to speak up?

Gatling

The gift that keeps on giving..

https://twitter.com/EastVeterans/status/1656746473650810890?s=20

Drifter100

Gawd, there is a lot of opinions posted here. Its not illegal to be Russian or to be proud of where you are from

What say these posters about VE Day celebrations or VJ day. Celebrating the deaths of millions of people. Take a line northwards of Dundalk to Westport, download FlightRadar 24 and turn your iPad upside down. Why are we not complaining about the numbers of heavy American military transport aircraft traversing our skies carrying soldiers, weapons and munitions from the US to their bases in the UK and Germany daily. They are not going to twiddle their thumbs and we allow it happen

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120586740#Comment_120586740

Nice try- had you cared to read the thread the vast majority of posts are not criticising either Russians or Russian flags per se, but rather Russian convicted criminals who organise as a large group and wear and wave Z flags in public -

HotWaterCylinder

@Drifter100 They should be ashamed of themselves not proud.

If they are so proud they can **** off home and get sent to the meat grinder 😂

Your whataboutery adds nothing either .

Hopefully (they are) those military transport aircraft and fully loaded with weapons to kill russian invaders.

glory to Ukraine!

Quitelife

As a regular enough race goer id be slow going to Naas Racecourse anytime soon if this is what their Board are endorsing .

Racecard will probably be in Russian for next race meeting with no jockeys allowed wear yellow and Blue colours !