Eileen Flynn halting site taxi issue

Deeec

https://www.thejournal.ie/eileen-flynn-traveller-racism-6059755-May2023/

Eileen needs a reality check. She needs to ask herself why the taxi driver was afraid to drive into a halting site. Why was he afraid Eileen? Instead of asking herself this question she screams discrimination.

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downtheroad

NattyO

It would be interesting to hear what crimes may or may not have been committed against taxi drivers in that halting site. It is telling that he agreed to drive in once she kept the Garda operator on the phone.

The bould senator knows well why the taxi driver didn't want to go in there, and must have been delighted when he wouldn't, as she knew it was perfect headline material.

Deeec

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120555052#Comment_120555052

Eileen deliberately misses the bigger issue here - that the taxi driver is afraid of what could happen him in that halting site. She makes a fool of herself by not accepting that there is huge problems within the travelling community. Why doesn't she use her role as senator to address these issues instead of shouting discrimination.

eggy81

Ironically enough by not driving in he suffered the fate of not being paid that most taxi drivers are afraid of when dropping members of the travelling community.

NattyO

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120555097#Comment_120555097

I'd say he was probably more afraid that he would lose his entire nights earnings rather than just not get paid.

retalivity

"However, the taxi driver instead said that he would drop her into the halting site if she kept the Garda operator on the phone."

That dose missed this point in her whinging, wonder why he would want a witness? Maybe she should ask herself that question.

NattyO

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120555078#Comment_120555078

You obviously aren't listening to the learned output of Pavee Point - there are no problems in the travelling community, it is the "settled community" that are the problem. If we'd just pay up and shut up, all would be well in the halting sites of Ireland.

youngbird

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120555097#Comment_120555097

It's not clear from the article whether the driver was paid at all. I hope they were.

What's galling is that the other clowns in the Seanad are taking this as evidence of a racism issue. If it's still Labre Park she is living in' I'm not surprised the driver wouldn't go in.

Perhaps Regina could give her a lift home next time🙄

eggy81

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120555107#Comment_120555107

Tbf I’ve been in and out of halting site loads of times doing various bit of jobs and not 1 thing ever happened. I’d be surprised if anything happened given who he was dropping. Maybe he’d had previous issues with someone though.

NattyO

“Last night, I got a taxi home from town and the taxi driver refused to take me into my house in a halting site,” Flynn told the Seanad.

There, in a sentence, is what is wrong with the travelling community's attitude towards us chumps in the "settled community"

My house in a halting site.

Free house, but in a halting site, so the option to keep horses, and move whenever there's a bit of tarmaccing to be done. All on the taxpayers dime.

Blazer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058295196/eileen-flynn-halting-site-taxi-issue

this is the standard mantra for all...hell look at the journal..its little more than a mouthpiece for pavee point. Of course the fact that pavee point is funding their newsworthy articles on travelers doesn't even register with them.

You don't see the Gay communities lambasting travelers for their blatant homophobia and that gay travelers have the highest suicide rates in Ireland. Then again the gay community are quick to use the bigot terminology as well.

You don't see women's groups lambasting travelers for the violence shown by the men in the traveling communities towards women and children.

Not do you see animal shelters and charities lambast the traveling community for their incredible cruelty towards animals..

because you'll have people like Eileen trotting out the racist shite in a heartbeat and then you have gobshites like Regina Doherty sucking up to her to make her look better. Christ why didnt we get rid of the Seanad when we had a chance. I voted Yes by the way...bunch of tit suckers.

NattyO

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120555140#Comment_120555140

There's a halting site near me where the skip company have to have a council "liason officer" with them every time they drop or pick up a skip, as the drivers were being threatened, and "accidents" kept happening when they drove in.

SEPT 23 1989

That community burned their bridges with Irish society a long time ago

no amount of guff pieces like this ,reports ,studies,findings the odd one who finishes school and goes to college on RTE good news pieces will ever change that now

Eileen is discriminating against a taxi driver's right not to put himself in danger.

Mech1

Pretty much the same as why the bus drivers won't do the Jobstown run. Don't see many senators shouting racist abuse about that do we?

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120555282#Comment_120555282

I think that is the apt comparison.

There is significant discrimination against the travelling community and this must be called out when it happens. This is not an example of it, and doesn't do the just cause of the travelling community any good.

I wonder who turned this piece of land adjacent to a halting site into a giant dump. And nobody will go clear it, why would they.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120555159#Comment_120555159

https://m.independent.ie/regionals/dublin/dublin-news/council-plans-to-build-large-wall-in-north-dublin-park-to-tackle-illegal-dumping/42439261.html

cal naughton

It's no coincidence that senator Flynn has chosen to highlight this issue now on the first day of a high profile abuse case involving members of her community. Deflection at it's finest.

RTE news : Woman tells court she was raped by grandfather twice

http://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2023/0504/1380772-central-criminal-court/

StevenToast

I read that story and I disagree with the taxi driver on one thing.....

.....i still wouldnt have driven her to that halting site after the garda were contacted....

Boggles

So the taxi driver took the fare and wanted to drop her outside the halting site. i.e. not enter the gated community.

She then refused to pay, he said he was calling the guards then she called the guards and the operator told her she was wasting their time.

She accused him 4 times of committing a crime in the Seanad after been told by the operator there was no crime being committed. She also told the operator that she wouldn't let "any harm come to him". That's a pretty weird thing to say and probably justifies him dropping her at the gate.

Not an ideal situation all round, but there is 2 sides to every story, maybe as a public representative why didn't she ask him why? Have a conversation about it, instead of branding him a racist criminal to the nation.

Taxi Drivers have a tough job as it is and there is a reason a lot of them now seldom work past dark.

He could be a dick, he also could well be just looking out for himself based on past experiences which every person in this country are entitled to do without be labelled criminal racists.

satguy

The lone taxi driver, or even the lone barman in a small town pub, have nothing to fear from the travelling community.

All those stories you hear are lies ... 

tesla_newbie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120555078#Comment_120555078

Because victimhood status has real currency and absolutely will not be surrendered

mikethecop

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120555126#Comment_120555126

ive been in and out of halting sites loads of times too , including labra park , and many many things have happened.

she should be prosecuted for misuse of the 999 system if she called that number to try to enforce her nonsense on a sensible working person.

tesla_newbie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120555153#Comment_120555153

Intersectionality “innit”

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120555282#Comment_120555282

Yeah, but the people of jobstown aren't an ethnic minority. It was the biggest mistake ever made by any government giving them that stick .

With rights come responsibilities but everyone is afraid to tell them that.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120555559#Comment_120555559

They're white Irish people. What is this ethnic minority?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120555458#Comment_120555458

This is a direct consequence of a phenomenon over the past decade where minorities are told they are both special and victims at the same time - when they are neither.

Oops!

A friend of mine is a retired station captain of a Dublin City Fire Station, he told me himself under no circumstances will they enter a halting site without the Gardai assisting first.

Furze99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120555153#Comment_120555153

That is one of the great mysteries of Irish political life - first in how crazy was the idea to give the public a chance to get rid of a bunch of wafflers. We had an open goal to do so and yet fecked it up and missed from three feet.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120555574#Comment_120555574

You've some reading to catch up on. They are an ethnic minority.

Oops!

Their family tree.....

touts

I think the travelling community needs a political representative who is a leader not just a spokesperson. And being a leader means bringing your followers on a journey of change. Leading them to a better place. In this case challenging the simplistic narrative that the helpless travelling community are victims of the racist settled community and cannot change anything for the better themselves. Eileen has failed to provide this much needed leadership.

Dtp1979

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120555574#Comment_120555574

Yea. Why are they being described as a different race??

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120556674#Comment_120556674

They're described as a different ethnic group because of customs, language - that kind of thing.

But they aren't a different "race", that's for sure.

But over the past decade or so, we've seen a movement where minorities are empowered to believe they are actually victims - not just victims, but very special people indeed. That gives people power, especially when more people believe it.

And we're seeing that power exercised, especially in cases such as now.

It's all a game of power, and the far-left are getting their way - slowly, but surely - by trying to reshape debate in this country. Part of that involves redefining the Travelling Community as a separate race. It's not the only game they're playing, but it's a part of it.

They've so far succeeded. In the long term, they'll fail.

For Forks Sake

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120556607#Comment_120556607

But how would you decide on such a representative?

Mrs OBumble

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120555574#Comment_120555574

Grab a dictionary.

Look up ethnicity, race and nationality. Note the difference.

hotmail.com

Should taxi drivers receive extra support and protection for fares into Halting Sites?

Is this what Eileen wants?

hotmail.com

On what basis did this anecdote arise in our Upper House?

Are Senators allowed to just waffle off any rubbish they want? I did vote for it to be abolished back a few years ago.

Danzy

The Guards are slow to drive in to halting sites.

A taxi driver would be a fool to.

pgj2015

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120556743#Comment_120556743

It should be tariff 10 on the taxi meter for driving into a halting site.

pgj2015

The Travellers are shooting themselves in the foot by always shouting racism. They would get a lot further in life if they just tried to be civilized and live like the rest of us. No one will ever have any respect for them if they keep playing the victim.

Glebee

Dont blame taxi driver one little bit.

Andrea B.

All about risk analysis.

The moment we start our day we expose ourselves to risks. Some actions more riskier than others.

If I plan a local drive, I plan with as few crossings of roads as possible, hence left turns etc. Small things.

The taxi driver deemed the risk outweighed the reward for driving in to the site.

A few metres drive to deliver an able bodied individual, versus a perceived increased risk of something crap happening, which could jeopardize their livelihood.

Now, I say perceived, as this is likely the fault of the media for instilling that perception into us.

Too much reporting of travellers stealing, fighting, scamming the weak and elderly, extortion and making (sometimes dubious) insurance claims.

Gusser09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120557203#Comment_120557203

Wtaf

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120557203#Comment_120557203

What on Earth is this guff.

Halting sites are frequently dangerous. That's the end of the analysis.

Baba Yaga

wouldnt blame the taxi man one little bit...drove a taxi for 10+years on nights back in the 90s,there were and still are several areas around the greater dublin area you wouldnt drive into at night and halting sites would be top of the no go list,even the gardai and fire brigade wont go into them without huge back up,why should a lone taxi man go in?

Andrea B.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120557363#Comment_120557363

Yes. I blame the media.

All we read about is the numerous cases of animal neglect, violent weddings and funerals, scams, extortion of the elderly both here and abroad, theft of precious metals, trespass, illegal dumping, squatting of lands, welfare fraud preposterous insurance claims, marching en masse into A&E for a black eyes and intimidating everyone else, etc.

The media don't report on all the benefits they bring to Irish communities.

chooseusername

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120557391#Comment_120557391

"The media don't report on all the benefits they bring to Irish communities."

Your list of benefits is very short.

Deeec

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120557391#Comment_120557391

I will tell you the benefits they bought to my community - visiting local shops where 12 of them get out of a van and enter the shop and fill their bags, skirts etc with goods ( this is how they do grocery shopping), robbed my grandparents house of everything - even took the copper water cylinder and ripped out all the pipes, illegal dumping everywhere, fighting in the towns graveyard, wrecked hotels. A great bunch of people altogether.

Andrea B.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120557417#Comment_120557417

Well, there are actually some benefits. I never considered owning a dog until the travellers set up site a few miles away some years back and drove out this road regularly.

Now I have a dog and he is my best mate. Needs his daily walks and keeps me fit. ++ All the way.

...Ghost...

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120557203#Comment_120557203

You're perception is nonsense on this matter. It is a FACT that by entering a halting site and not being a known person or resident of same, you are putting yourself in danger and your property at risk of being stolen. The taxi driver had good reason to not want to enter the halting site. He was not committing a hate crime as the lazy senator claimed. The taxi driver was in fear of entering the halting site as there was a reasonable chance he could have been assaulted and robbed. Food delivery drivers also won't go near the halting sites....they won't even drop the food off at the entrance.

Travelers haven't earned their reputation by being victimised; they have earned it by being criminals and pariahs to society. Halting sites are filled with traveler folk who have no respect for anyone or any thing. I learned this early on when I was 12 or 13 returning from the cinema in Coolock, Dublin with 2 of my friends. We were passing by the local halting site. 8 or 9 travelers of the same age and older blocked our path looking for trouble under the guise of asking for a smoke. None of us smoked. One friend had slipped through and my other friend and I were held. The lad blocking my way was about 15 and was built like a chicken nugget. He has holding my arm and tried to punch me twice. I got away from him unhurt after twisting out of his hold. My other friend got away with a shiner. They were doing this right outside their homes/caravans and their parents think it's acceptable to attack the local kids in gangs, so yeah...scum. I wouldn't have dropped Eileen off within 100 yards of the gate. I hope that taxi driver comes out and gives his side of the story.