Is high mileage a No No

Sarah1916

Hi, on the look out for a 7 seater.

torn between a Skoda Kodiaq and a VW Tiguan allspace.

I think I would prefer a Tiguan as they look nicer but they are that bit more expensive.

budget seems to allow me look at 2020’s.

I have seen a good bargain Tiguan for sale but the mileage is 150km for a 2020. Is that a massive No, or should I still consider?

i don’t I’ll be putting very little mileage on it myself. (Around 5km Per year).

ideally will keep for around 4 years and replace then.

happy to hear all thoughts, TIA.

bazz26

Is it diesel, do you have a link to the advert as even 2020 examples with that sort of mileage seem to be asking high 30k? Have you looked at the Seat Tarraco? It's mechanically the same as the Tiguan and Kodiaq. If your only doing 5k km per year then surely a lower mileage petrol one would make more sense given the lack of use you will give it.

Regarding the mileage, 150k km is nearly 100k miles so there could be some big serviceable items coming up such as timing belt/water pump, etc. You could be unlucky with a new flywheel or clutch too depending on the previous owner(s) so you need to factor these things in too.

DoctorEdgeWild

Mileage means very little when compared against regular maintenance. Maintenance is far more important.

goochy

Go for a petrol . Likely to be cheaper to buy . With less mileage on it too.

Sarah1916

I would happily buy a petrol if there were any for sale within a reasonable price. Unfortunately it’s not the case.

It wont let me include a link but it’s a grey 2020 Tiguan Allspace on Carzone.ie for €38950.

fits

There are a good few petrol tarracos on car zone with 7 seats.

goochy

Do you have to pay nox tax on a petrol import ? If not might be an option

homewardbound11

At 50K a year it is was most likely used for work purposes . Being doing close to that mileage myself for the past 20 odd years .

Make sure it has a full and detailed service history . A lot of cars now are 30k between services and I think it’s too much . As the last post pointed out it could be due a timing change or a clutch flywheel. My experience of doing that mileage is that it’s likely to be put on the open road and less clutch changes than a driver in towns cities for most of its life .

in short 150k is probably 1/2 way through its life and expect some minor repairs to come in the years .

taraccos are a good option . Everything is pricey nowadays .

pgj2015

5,000 km per year. I wouldn't be spending 39,000 on a car to do such low millage. Buy an older car for 5,000 to 10,000

goochy

Yes disregard the 150km car , you may as well buy an older cheaper car as you can't be guaranteed hassle free motoring

User1998

There’s plenty of low mileage petrol 7 seaters for around 10k. The Japanese ones are bullet proof too.

https://www.donedeal.ie/view/33786206

https://www.donedeal.ie/view/31159709

https://www.donedeal.ie/view/33471984

ofcork

Pointless buying a diesel to do 5k a year just asking for trouble.

bazz26

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120483178#Comment_120483178

39k is very saucy money for a 3 year old car with nearly 100k miles on the clock.

Here is a petrol Tarraco with tiny mileage for 5k less, a wiser bet for your usage than a higher mileage diesel your simply not going to use:

https://www.carsireland.ie/3283365

Jane Austen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058292556/is-high-mileage-a-no-no

Hi, have you considered an older Sorento - biased but has been an amazing car. No links of course but am currently selling a 172 with 41,000km for Eur10k less than what you're considering paying out.

At the time, our choice was between Sorento and Kodiaq so looked at both carefully but preferred the power of the Sorento .

twin_beacon

High mileage wouldn't put me off if there is a service history

John_Rambo

High mileage is a problem for me (from experience). Even with proper maintenance & servicing the cars been on the road for a lot. Wear and tear throughout the car, the seats, the doors, gearbox, the stalks etc... everything starts to deteriorate from heavy use eventually.

sf80

As is mentioned, maintenance is more import. Anecdotally, most of the issues with my well maintenance 14 year old car with 350000k are due to age. Corroding rubber in the suspension, injector seals, brake lines. The mileage impact has been on bearings, brake discs, starter motor & alternator - all easy to replace consumables to some degree.

Squatman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120486359#Comment_120486359

yea, the piston rings have a shelf life in addition to what you mention above. no amount of "motorway miles" reduces the amount of travel on all those things. Add in Timing belt / chain too.

"motorway miles" my ass. and tell me this, how did it get to the motorway :)

Squatman

PS 150k kms is not a whole pile, however, for north of 30K, you should be looking for something with <50k kms

goochy

high mileage cars are rarely worth buying as the saving over average mileage cars are not great.

Girl Geraldine

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120483249#Comment_120483249

Definitely. If you are only tipping around doing 5k a year, why would you be blowing near € 40 grand. It is a fantastical waste of money.

For 5k km per year, you should be buying a bangernomics runabout for €5k max.

goochy

In fairness , just cause you are only doing 5 km a year does not mean you dont want a nice late model car. Just dont got for a diesel and for a car with high mileage .

a buddy who does not do much mileage was changing his car , i told him to get a low mileage petrol - 1.5 litre- 2019 skoda superb - he got last year for €25k from a main dealer and is delighted with it

R.O.R

For what it's worth, a colleague supplied that Tiguan Allspace in Feb 2020 and it was dropped back to me after it's 3 year lease, in Feb this year. I seem to remember it being in really good condition for the mileage when it was dropped back.

I don't have access to the maintenance history as we farm that out to a 3rd party, but I'd be very surprised if it wasn't serviced when it should have been.

Sam Russell

I was looking at a new VW Tiguan, but VW do not sell a petrol version in Ireland but do in the UK. My mileages would not justify a diesel, and anyway, I would not own another VW diesel after being caught since my VW Diesel Golf. They updated the cheat software and fked the car.

CiniO

How about looking at it this way:

3 year old car with 150k kms on the clock should be considerable cheaper than similar low mileage one. If you can get the price low enough, then it might be worth going for, considering you do small mileage.

Then, after another 4 years, car will be 7 years old, with 170k kms, which should be just about typical mileage for a car that age, so should sell for reasonable money.

bazz26

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120487722#Comment_120487722

They did sell a petrol Tiguan here. They may not anymore though as that model is being phased out and replaced with an all new model later this year.

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120488692#Comment_120488692

That would be my understanding also. But the initial purchase price needs to be significantly lower than other lower mileage examples to make it worthwhile

Sam Russell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120488806#Comment_120488806

The VAG group sell petrol versions of the equivalent of the Tiguan but not the VW version. VW do not sell petrol versions larger than the Golf.

They do in other markets but not in Ireland.

I wonder why?

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120488959#Comment_120488959

VRT I’d imagine

Sam Russell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120489058#Comment_120489058

Surely the VRT would be not much different for a VW, Seat or Skoda version of the same class of car. And why only VW Tiguan and Audi Q3?

BorneTobyWilde

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/seat-tarraco-se-1-5tsi-150hp-7-seater-seat-appro/28794855

SEAT Tarraco SE 1.5tsi 150HP 7 Seater seat Approved 24 Month Warranty AND 3 Year Service Plan Included 20 (2020)

37k

Low kms 36000

1.5 tsi petrol, 45 mpg

goochy

Disregard cinios advice , high mileage cars are seldom worth buying over an average mileage car .

Squatman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120489777#Comment_120489777

disregard this advice.

the price of the car should be the limiting factor, higher mileage cars should attract a lower asking price.

in this case, if you say the car has a shelf life of 300k (for example) and new it was 50k (maybe 55)

so in the 3 years, it depreciated 12-15k, but has used half its shelf life. meaning the best value from this car has already been consumed i.e. 150k & 12/15k. the remaining 150k will cost 37k.

so if you go by this logic, then you're best value is to go for a new car, and trade in after 3 years. IMO, I would, and have, paid a premium for low mileage cars. Advice I would offer, is go for a good/expensive car, and negotiate down to good price. Dont buy a cheap car. buy a good car cheap.

NB, before anyone jumps in, the 300k is not a fixed limit :P

Old diesel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120489777#Comment_120489777

It entirely depends on the individual cars, pricing and other factors.....

In general I'd prefer a Merc diesel with 200,000 miles.

Instead of a Mazda 6 diesel with 30,000 miles.

In the same vein I'd rather a Prius with 100,000 genuine miles over a Ford ecoboost 1 litre with 40,000 miles....

Then there's price....

The problem with the Tiguan in the OP isn't the 150 k kms....

It's that it's a relatively expensive car - possibly a reflection of current 2nd hand prices....

goochy

Its alot of money to spend on a car that could need expensive repairs soon enough