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Is Ivy Like This Harmless or Should I Remove It?

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  • 12-04-2023 9:28pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 17,915 ✭✭✭✭


    Hi, as per thread title, I like the look on an otherwise very bland house but if theres a chance its doing damage to the roof or foundations Ill get rid. Im guessing theres a reason you dont see this much growth on most houses though:




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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,560 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    It lifts roof tiles, and guttering. It also can cause damp in the wall. Easier said than done to remove all that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 583 ✭✭✭shane b


    I would remove it or get it well trimmed back. It obscuring to view from the top window too.

    Ivy as a habit of finding its way into any weaknesses in the blockwork too.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,287 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I was getting an old shed re-roofed and ivy had not only gone over the tops of the walls but the guy who was doing the job had to demolish the top of the gable as the ivy had grown through the wall - literally through the (lime) mortar and between the stones. I like the look of it but I agree, take it down if you can, and certainly cut it away from the guttering area. Its also providing a great ladder for all kinds of livestock into your attic.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,232 ✭✭✭blackbox


    I made the mistake of cutting something similar at the bottom to let it die.

    It is actually easier to remove it when it is living or at least fresh.

    I definitely recommend removing it from below the roof area, but the rest of it makes a great habitat for small birds and insects.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,294 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    Cutting it back is definitely not the answer, it'll just stimulate growth in whatever is left, you need to remove that completely. It can look nice but it is one of natures finest tools for reclaiming man made structures.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,287 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I'd guess it has already gone between the wall and the soffit, whoever takes it off is going to have to be pretty careful or the soffit will get broken or dislodged. Probably the same between the guttering and tiles.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,140 ✭✭✭wildwillow


    I would remove it carefully. Easier to pull when still growing. I too have seen it come right through a stone and lime wall which is more than a foot wide. I cut it back on my side and use a weed killer to kill off any new shoots that appear. It is doing a lot of damage to the wall but the people on the other side just ignore it.

    There will be loads of insects living in it but your house takes priority.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,107 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    This thread has taught me that we should be building houses out of ivy 😁

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users Posts: 617 ✭✭✭steinbock123


    Get rid of it pronto. It might look nice on some buildings, but it’s very bad news for the same building. I’ve seen it go through two feet of stone wall when left to its own devices. Get rid!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,828 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Think of the wildlife, the insects and the bees, the birds love the berries etc!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,287 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    But the insects and birds are not paying the mortgage and if the house is destroyed the ivy will be gone anyway! Ok so I am exaggerating but the entire bird and insect population is not going to die out because ivy was removed from one house!



  • Registered Users Posts: 29,071 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ...if theyre willing to pay the bills from the damage, fair enough, but....

    ...maybe plant other vegetation, but under control, to try encourage such activities.....



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,444 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    There could well be birds nesting in there right now, so if you do decide to remove it, hold off for a while.



  • Registered Users Posts: 436 ✭✭Girl Geraldine


    Rats is all you are going to get. Rats will hide in it and climb up it to get into the attic.

    And I wouldn't want my house festering with 100 species of creepy crawlies, shít eating flies, and wasps.

    Pull it all down.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,828 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Tut, tut.. I hope no card carrying and voting Greens here advising destruction of this piece of nature!



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,482 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    I'd keep it if your house number is four, as it looks very useful.

    If not, get rid of it.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭micks_address


    we had something similar on our house when we moved in 20 years ago and i removed.. it was growing in around the windows and very messy... hard to remove from the walls.. wire brush was what i used in the end.. it clings on there!



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,529 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Worth pointing out that it's a bred variegated variety, and these are nowhere near as bad as the common stuff, but as above keep it below the gutters and roof tiles if you want to keep it. It could do with a trim back to the wall as well as the more it grows away from it the more likely it could be blown off altogether.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭Sigma101


    I agree with this. Leave it for a few more months. There could be dozens of nests in there.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 29,071 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78




  • Registered Users Posts: 10,560 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    I'm extremely wildlife friendly but, honestly, get real. There are limits.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,560 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    More likely to be in use in a few months. Examine it for nests when removing it, sooner rather than later. Another Spring spurt of growth will only do more damage.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,524 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    OP you can keep it if you really want to. Firstly as already pointed out its an ornamental form which may not be as vigourus as the ivy I've just been out in the garden pulling out. Secondly you can keep it under control but it will probably need intervention 2-3 times e a year. Thirdly ivy only damages walls that were already in a bad condition, it does nothing but stick to good render.

    If you keep it what you need to do is cut it back about 30 cm from the windows and 60cms from the eves. Then when it starts to encroach on either cut it back. You also need to do a once yearly cutting of all the growth that comes forward off the walls. Its a bit late for that now with nesting birds but normally late March would be a good time.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,529 ✭✭✭standardg60


    I wouldn't say already in bad condition, it should certainly be removed from old lime and mortar and poured walls, as it roots into the crevices and as they expand they destroy the wall, but agree on a modern house wall they will have little impact.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,915 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Oh wow loads of replies thanks all, I was wondering why nobody cared about my ivy problem! Not getting notifications for some reason.

    Do you think I should get a professional in to look at it? My father is all in favour of just cutting it at the roots so it dies but I told him to hold off for now. Thats good news about it being ornamental not aggressive native stuff anyway.

    One good thing is at least its on the north facing side and so is in shade most of the time. Thats the main bathroom window looking out on the street thats being encroached btw so not as bad as a bedroom (house has been extended to the back and sides and attic converted so bit of an odd layout internally).

    Current plan forming I think is to get a professional to go up and make sure its not ingressing, cut it back a load from the top and roof and then just give it a brutal cull 2-3 times a year with a hedgetrimmer from then, I really do like the look of it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,915 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Or maybe as I look at it its just a bit too scary and I should get rid of it ASAP, cant decide tbh.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,818 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    In the long run keeping it will be more costly in time\effort, but if you like the look of it...

    You can go with this plan for now:

    Current plan forming I think is to get a professional to go up and make sure its not ingressing, cut it back a load from the top and roof and then just give it a brutal cull 2-3 times a year with a hedgetrimmer from then, I really do like the look of it.

    And still change your mind later to get rid of it all.

    But you can't do that if you blitz it away now.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,524 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    OP I think its all down to how confident you are on a ladder or even have a suitable ladder? Provided you can regularly (yearly?) cut back the very top by a couple of feet then you are in control and then take whatever other actions you decide.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,287 ✭✭✭✭looksee


     then just give it a brutal cull 2-3 times a year with a hedgetrimmer from then

    I'm not sure how you would do it, but, while you could probably cut the face of it, I am not seeing a hedge-trimmer cutting the top?



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