DeWalt... Great Offer

Bluefoam

I found this offer and thought it was either from a battery system that's discontinued or there'd be something off about the tool...

But it's a metal chuck hammer combi drill, a decent model, two batteries on the XR system.... For €99, with a torch, bag and a free set of stackable bits.

I believe they made a mistake and put a discount on the pack which already had a discount and a free bit set ...

I picked one up yesterday and got the offer and bits for the €99, you'll need to raise it with a member of staff and show them the price on their website, as they are €149 in store ...

https://www.woodies.ie/dewalt-18v-combi-kit-2x-2-0ah-batteries-torch-1180548?gclid=Cj0KCQjw_r6hBhDdARIsAMIDhV_AD35cKzRKwpGbKJKKqr-2N0z-bD_GOcE_CtEOSl7j-FTNYIZmuTkaAsofEALw_wcB

NinjaTruncs

Coo story bro, but you gonna tell what shop has the offer?

Bluefoam

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120454868#Comment_120454868

Coo indeed! Link above ^

The Continental Op

Shite batteries but I have both the drill and the torch and can't fault them. If you forget the batteries and treat them as a free bonus then you couldn't buy the bare brushless drill or torch together for less than about €120 (online).

I suspect the batteries would be fine for DIY but they limit you as they aren't any use on more power hungry tools. Add them into the mix with the charger and they'd cost you another €80-100. Making it a good buy.

Phil.x

Great value, and 2ah batteries are more than enough for anyone, unless you're drilling 8hrs per day.

magicbastarder

I got that (no torch) in-store five or so years ago, and it's still going strong. Batteries are plenty for home DIY, I use it for sanding while woodturning and they charge fairly quickly.

The Continental Op

Another thing to bear in mind here is that this set includes a Brushless Drill with all metal chuck which is a more expensive tool and more compact than the brushed version which comes with a chuck thats part plastic. Normally the cheaper kits feature the brushed version - compare the current Screwfix offer - neither tools are brushless. That said I have an older DeWalt drill that uses brushes and its had loads of abuse and still going fine.

Local builders merchants wants over €70 for the torch on its own (no batteries), the torch is really useful!

Bluefoam

I gave this to my brother and he's thrilled with it... It's an amazing kit to get started on a system... The drill will last year's and the rest may or may not get replaced over the years...

I'm on Makita, so we'll see how that old argument goes 🤣

the_pen_turner

nothing wrong with those bateries. i have 2 2ah that i use on my drywall colated screwgun., they dont last that long but are nicly balanced. these have a place . i have 20 plus bateries and would buy more of these.

drill and torch are good value and perfect for diy or a trade that doesnt need them much like a painter etc

The Continental Op

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120457220#Comment_120457220

You have 20 plus batteries but only 2 2Amp ones - I rest my case ;-)

I have no commercial use for any tool but I'd still aim for better batteries if possible. I don't even think that getting brushless tools is a big issue either. I think the point I should have made better to start with is that these batteries are fine for the tools in the kit but the buyer shouldn't be fooled into thinking that they can then go and buy a load more DeWalt 18V XR tools because they have a couple of 18V 2 Amp batteries. The DeWalt XR tools I use most are, angle grinder, sawzall and more and more a circular saw. They don't last too long on 4Amp batteries so I'm now only buying 5 Amp (get them in the UK - Amazon, really can't afford to buy them here).

the_pen_turner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120457555#Comment_120457555

the only reason i just have 2 is down to cost. i would like a few more . they re 50 here minium and a 4 or 5 ah is not a lot more so it makes sense to buy the bigger ones. i will probably buy a few of the 1.7ah powerstack

i agree these would be pritty poor in a grinder , recip or circular saw. ok if its a little cut but they would eat the bateries up instantly. that doesnt mean thye are bad bateries just thaty are not best suited to the heavier work.

how are you getting the bateries through amazon. they wont ship them to me

The Continental Op

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120457610#Comment_120457610

I'm in the UK quite often so order them from Amazon when I'm on the ferry over so I have the max time for delivery in case they are a bit slow. But for UK with Prime its 99.9% next day. Paid £96.67 for these just before Christmas https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07QB3BJB9 and then due to someone swapping batteries with the DeWalt torches and lamps got a 50% reduction 😌. I think somehow a good battery I'd just charged got swapped for a flat one either that or the battery I thought I'd charged wasn't in the charger properly (they are all clearly numbered so I know which is which). Anyway to cut a very long story short I thought I had a bad battery. Called Amazon CS and got an immediate 50% refund. Then thought before dismantling the battery I'd see if it would charge if I left it overnight. Nothing happened when I put it in the charger but tried in another and it started charging 🤐.

Good info as always from Project Farm on the PowerStack batteries

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTKRK1RInFw

And a more general battery comparison which shows the advantage of lager batteries in some applications.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpnwBOefbvs

Edit> In case anyone is confused by the 20V batteries they are exactly the same batteries as are sold here as 18V. Its all to do with when you measure the voltage, in use the full charged 20V's drops to 18V or lower as soon as there is a load on the battery so 18V is the more honest description but in America bigger sells.

Bluefoam

Yeh, but in the real world 2ah batteries manage most DIY jobs, anyone expanding to hungrier tools or tasks will add batteries.

I've been on the same set of 3ah batteries for 8 years without a problem. Only just got a pair of 5ah to get through mowing the grass, strimming and blowing... TBH, it's a nice luxury and I was fine on the 3ah's, but did need a charge to get through what I needed. Even the circular saw doesn't deplete the batteries massively, because you only use it intermittently.

I'm gonna keep the 3ah in my drill case as my main battery, the 5's will live in the shed for higher capacity tasks... But that's the beauty of getting into a system.

bromley52

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058291578/dewalt-great-offer

How did you get the free bits?

Bluefoam

They're part of the in-store offer. €149 + Bit Set. The online offer is €99...

When I asked, they said they could give it to me for the online price and also had to include the bits. It had to be typed into the register, as otherwise price would have come up as €149.

The Continental Op

So did you keep the bits or give them to you brother? :-)

newmember2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120459965#Comment_120459965

Just so I understand...they're doing an in-store offer of the set in the link plus a bit set for €149, so how did you convince them that the online offer for just the set minus the bit set was the same as the in-store offer?

Bluefoam

I showed them the ad on my phone, they did the rest.

rob316

That's the DeWalt 796 very good drill and as stated metal chuck. 2ah batteries are absolutely fine for drills and drivers. 5ah are vital for circular saws though.

Great price

R11

Might pick one up later. Would it be suitable for drilling into shed wall to hang hooks? Or would that wreck the chuck?

magicbastarder

you mean drilling into masonry? it's rated for masonry anyway.

https://www.dewalt.ie/product/dcd796p2-gb/18v-xr-brushless-hammer-drill-driver-2-x-5-ah

R11

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120460879#Comment_120460879

Yeh,just to have a few hooks on shed wall. It's block built, won't be holding heavy stuff. Is there a masonry bit in that bit set?

Masala

Where in offer does it say it comes with a set of drill bits. ..???

am collecting mine tomorrow and just want to have my facts right if offer includes the drill bits so as to ensure I get them included 

thanks OP fir the heads up in this… badly needed a good drill fir around the house. Got to 50yrs old borrowing a drill from friends and relations… so time to invest now fir myself!!!

newmember2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120460579#Comment_120460579

Sorry, I'm still not understanding this. What ad? I'm not seeing mention of a free bit set anywhere.

The Continental Op

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120461483#Comment_120461483

Just guessing here but perhaps the instore price was €149 with a free bit set and the online price was €99 with no bit set. So OP went with the item and bit set to the till and blagged the €99 online price and got the bit set as well?

R11

Just bought in woodies Dundalk. No bit set came with the drill,just the drill, torch,2 batteries and bag for €100. Still great value.

Anyone recommended where I'd get a good drill bit set? Looking for a combi set with bits for plastic,wood and masonry. I'll check Screwfix later as they're normally better value than Woodie's.

NinjaTruncs

I just picked up a drill from Carrickmines, in store the bits came with a €139 deal but that offer didn't include the torch. I didn't see how much the bundle with the torch was costing in store. The op may have gotten lucky with the bits.

The Continental Op

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120461556#Comment_120461556

I'm a bit repetitive and always say this, don't bother with bit sets full of bits you'll never use. Just get the individual bits as you need them.

What tends to happen is that you use a couple from the set then break them so you have to go and buy individual bits any wary or just bodge the next job.

Personally I rarely if ever use brad pointed wood drills as its so easy to blunt them. So all you really need are a €4.99 set of both HSS (high speed steel) drill bits (normally used on metal but do a fine job on wood) and masonry drills at Lidl or Aldi. Now that doesn't mean I don't have 100's of drill bits but I use the €4.99 HSS set for nearly everything so its in the tool box handy and top it up when a bit gets snapped. And yes I also have a few drill sets full of drills I hardly ever use.

All you really need is 2.5, 3 and 4mm HSS bits a countersink bit and 5, 6 and 7 mm masonry bits for raw plugs. If you are buying raw plugs or any fixing for a job just buy the right size drill bit at the same time.

chooseusername

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120461633#Comment_120461633

All well and good popping out for drill bits as and when needed if the shop is a few mins away and open.

The Continental Op

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120461770#Comment_120461770

All very well for the DIYer to have a big box of bits they never use with all the useful sizes blunt or broken.

Sets are a big con and a waste of money. Just get a basic set and get into the habit of buying the bits you actually need and some spares for each job.

I've just been out now working on ladders drilling some stainless steel. Used a 2mm drill bit and snapped one. No issue as I know 2mm drill bit snap easily and had several spares. If I was relying on a set it would have been game over or a 6 mile trip to screwfix - who are nearly always open.

Its the same with the screw driver bits you get with sets of drills. The Pozi 1 and 2 are always missing or worn out. Screw driver bits are consumables, just like drills, better to buy a box of 10 or 20 Pozi 2 (PZ2) and use a new one whenever the edge on the current one gets burred a bit.

Maybe get a set but not one with 101 different bits and still buy the common sizes as spares so you can top the sets up as you wear things out and break them. If you do buy a set I bet you never use even 75% of them.

the_pen_turner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120461893#Comment_120461893

i agree 100%. bit sets are a waste of money unless they are small with just the ones you use in it. these 101 piece kits are usually garbage quality and everything bar 5 or6 will never get used..

i do keep a small bit set of drill bits and another of screwdriver bits but they are more of a grab and go from the van and all the extras and back ups are left in the van.

kirk.

I keep a couple of these type sets for odd jobs ,doesn't matter about bits going missing

https://ige.ie/100pc-security-crv-power-bit-set

I've other Milwaukee and wiha sets but never used them

Bluefoam

... as for bits... Everyone has different needs.

I'm a DIY'er and I don't repeat tasks the same way a joiner would. I have a case of various sizes masonry, wood and steel bits. Some get used often, some rarely, but they are neatly stored in my toolbox and accessible when I need them. I also have individual bits that didn't come in the kits, namely large masonry... When I wear out a bit, I get a new one and replace the old one in the case. I have a full makpac of Fischer Fixings and plugs in various sizes and match them and the relevant bits to the task...

Its different if you have a more sophisticated setup, but I don't have the time to pick up bits every time I do something.

Bluefoam

Regarding the offer... I've said it above, but I'll repeat it again. The same kit is available in store and online ... In store it is €149 with free bits. Online it is €99, no bits.

Go to the store, find a knowledgeable member of staff, show them the online offer. They should honor the deal, they should also offer you the bits too as they are advertised free with the kit in-store, if they don't you can ask politely... They should, but may not give you the bits too... That member of staff will need to escort you to the checkout to make the cashier aware of the deal.

This is how I got it. If you got a kit without the torch, then that's a completely different kit and offer, if that's the kit you want then use it and enjoy it.

Even without the bits €99 is a bargain.

magicbastarder

a 10 piece set is a no-brainer; probably three times the price (absolute guesswork there!) of a single bit. i've used every bit many times (albeit with the caveat that i do enjoy working with wood).

newmember2

OT I know but...can anyone tell me why Festool power tools are so expensive?

https://www.screwfix.ie/p/festool-577245-18v-2-x-4ah-li-ion-airstream-li-high-power-brushless-cordless-twin-pack/408XG?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1634jf-f_gIVEobtCh06Eg2rEAQYASABEgJB2fD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

The Continental Op

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120462611#Comment_120462611

I have no idea but I do know a couple of people that use them and after using a lot of other tools won't use anything else.

R11

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120462372#Comment_120462372

In woodies Dundalk,it was the same deal in store as online ...€99.99 with no free bit set.

rustynutz

Collected mine in woodies castlebar yesterday, it was priced 99.99 in store also, great drill and torch for the money

The Continental Op

Reminder for anyone who has bought these to register with DeWalt for the full 3 year warranty https://www.dewalt.ie/my-dewalt/sign . You have to register each tool individually but not batteries last time I used it (only 6 months on batteries). So you will be registering, the drill, the torch and the charger.

I've not had any major issues with DeWalt stuff but have had the torch replaced when the switch stop working (no spare parts available) and had Screwfix replace a DeWalt impact driver which had a well documented fault.

kirving

Not a bad deal at all, considering the batteries as €35 each. Bought one and will pick up later today.

I already have a drill, oscillating tool and 2 5.0AH batteries, but having 2 more and a charger will mean I never have to swap batteries or wait should one run out.

HotWaterCylinder

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120462611#Comment_120462611

If you see a tradesman (usually cabinet makers) using festool gear you can be certain they take pride in their work.

rob316

A drill is only as good as the bits so I highly recommend these https://www.screwfix.ie/p/bosch-expert-hex-shank-multi-purpose-drill-bits-5-piece-set/759ky

They chew through concrete even without hammer action, metal, wood, plastic no problem.

walterking

The torch is only 100 lumen, so feck all light coming form it (about 1 watt in modern LED standards). You can get dewalt torches with 2000 lumen. So I suspect the torch is effectively free as its not much good

But even if you ignore the torch its fairly good for what is the premium end of Black and Decker (same company)

HotWaterCylinder

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120464593#Comment_120464593

they are not for metal,wood or plastic.

complete crap imo

Mr321

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120464593#Comment_120464593

Might get those. You think they are good? I've never used the hex shank masonary drill bits as I've found unless the quality is good they will shear within seconds under hammer/impact.

However Bosch is good with all products

Ive had Makita and Dewalt cordless drills mash up the gearboxs on masonary after not much use and the lad who fixed them said it keeps him in work so impact or no masonary setting could be better

The Continental Op

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120464597#Comment_120464597

But you have to balance the light output against battery drain and convenience of use. That particular torch gets used every night here for going out and locking up the chickens and its the first torch I look for if I have to do any DIY where there is not enough light. We've no shortage of other torches but that one always gets preferred. When we get power cuts I tend to pick up the other dewalt "torch" or rather lantern that we have the DCL050-XJ which has far more output but burns through the batteries in comparison. The bigger dewalt torches/lanterns at 1000 and 2000 lumens are total overkill for what most people require (although they are on my Amazon wish list in case they end up on a special offer). A DIYer doesn't need to illuminate a whole worksite just the bit where he is working.

The Continental Op

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120464686#Comment_120464686

They are handy, have a set for the quick change convenience of the hex shank and thought I'd make more use of them but they are a bit brutal on wood. Where they come into their own is drilling through a thin materials like metal or plastic that need fixing to concrete.

rob316

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120464626#Comment_120464626

There best for masonry but do go through wood albeit a bit rough so don't use on finished wood.

UsBus

The Screwfix deal was reduced to €188 for the DeWalt 18V drill and impact driver for the Easter. Good value for the set, not sure if it's expired after this weekend though.

Mr321

I can't understand why Screwfix that's nationwide in Ireland and England can't be more competitive in price in alot of their products especially Power Tools given the stock they carry.

I know they have deals now and again but really some of their prices is shocking. Couldn't touch them and yet an independent hardware with only 1 or 2 of the same product can be cheaper.