Lasting effects from the Pandemic.

pgj2015

Do you think you have changed much since the pandemic? are you more reclusive, socially anxious, selfish, or are you now more friendly and more appreciative now of all the things you couldn't do while we were locked down?

my observations are road rage is more noticeable, a lot of people are totally self entered now. some are enjoying the little things and taking that trip they always wanted etc

I learned to stop working so much but I think im probably more reclusive now if im honest and sometimes I dont enjoy chatting strangers as much as I used to.

Jim_Hodge

I have to say its just back to how things were before. I haven't noticed any behavioural changes in people.

Ubbquittious

Cashless society shite

People have become ruder than they were. Like the road rage but also manifests in other places

Harder to get stuff done, if you try to buy stuff it's out of stock or the person you want to talk to is "working from home" and semi-permanently unreachable

Big brother Orwellian has set in and become accepted

Purple Mountain

I've noticed it in some school children who lost 2 solid years due to interruptions to their schooling.

Some never gained their momentum back again for classroom based study.

They think they can still work at the easy going pace of remote learning.

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120428591#Comment_120428591

..ive heard some kids are now even experiencing autistic like issues, now thats very worrying!

Purple Mountain

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120428644#Comment_120428644

The kids I'm thinking of (mostly my own) didn't lose any social skills during remote learning bur definitely a structure and focus to sitting in a classroom to learn!

Count Dracula

Masks

They are here for ever now.

Notmything

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120428784#Comment_120428784

They've already been here forever.

On a positive workers are more willing to move jobs if they feel they are not been treated fairly.

Negative the numbers who now believe a random meme on Facebook over what common sense should be telling them.

Larbre34

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120428644#Comment_120428644

No, thats parenting. Children being stifled into anti-social, behaviourly challenged little darlings was going on long before the pandemic. Thats parenting.

Parents convincing themselves that because their kids are a little off, they must be autistic and then projecting that onto those same kids, is highly damaging. Thats parenting.

Cosseting, helicopter parenting is, at the very time human brains are a sponge for learning, scrambling their own kids' ability to self-teach and learn discernment, reason and accountability.

The pandemic may have magnified that a little, but it absolutely did not cause it.

the_amazing_raisin

I work from home now all the time, cannot stand commuting anymore and I'll refuse any job that requires me to turn up regularly

I'm probably more reclusive now, more from the working at home than the pandemic (as in I'm not particularly worried about getting sick)

Tbh I think it's better, makes me focus on the friends who mean something rather than trying to maintain a load of parasocial relationships with people I've no interest in

Overall, I talk to fewer people every day, and I love it 😁

Andrea B.

Livestreaming funerals.

Horrible legacy.

Mister Vain

Being on the PUP was a wake up call. When you're getting almost as much money to sit as home as you were breaking your back for some cúnt of a boss, it really makes you reevaluate things. I'm my own boss now and I actually like my job which is something I never thought I'd say.

I do miss the camaraderie with the lads from my old job though. I used to meet lots of people through my hobbies too but that has kind of dried up since the pandemic. People have either lost interest in it or else they're too busy working every hour god sends as a result of the rising cost of living.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120430168#Comment_120430168

Is your current boss a cnut as well? 😁

Legacies of the pandemic for me:

• Changed the way we work, wfh now seems the established way in fintech.

• Employers now realising they don’t need a lot of the people they employed so there is bloodletting.

• Prices of everything have risen due to shortages.

• Housing is even worse due to lack of construction for almost two years and difficult getting materials for the same reason.

• economically we are being affected by the huge pandemic payouts and debt warehousing during the pandemic.

• People seem less tolerant, less patient, more easily angered, though I’m not sure if social media played a bigger part in that.

• Masks are here to stay, and there must be an expectation that new strains of Covid will spread panic again in future.

• Healthcare has changed forever, Covid has led to an exodus of experienced staff who cannot be replaced quickly enough with people of the same calibre.

• Cash is declining, though that may only be temporary as debt associated with tapping bites harder.

gipi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120430127#Comment_120430127

For family abroad who may not be able to come back for a funeral, it's a wonderful way of feeling part of the ceremony.

Andrea B.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120430465#Comment_120430465

Agreed. I just see it as a bit of intrusion, especially ones been seen at their most vulnerable for those really tragic occasions.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120430717#Comment_120430717

Wouldn't it be up to the family to decide on streaming?

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120430127#Comment_120430127

Most masses from most churches are live-streamed these days…so I think it’s just a given…

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120430465#Comment_120430465

this… anyone having to come a distance at short notice. From abroad, not always possible.

L1011

One minor thing I've noticed is that 24 petrol stations are dead and gone in all but the busiest places - no significant traffic during lockdowns and the rollout of pay at pump setups then.

In ~2010, my area had a 24h Dunnes, 24h Tesco, two petrol stations, and a newsagents that 'closed' between 2 and 4, if they felt like it (rarely did).

We've now not got a single shop open after 10pm, and that 10pm close is a shop that is always open - they close on Christmas but they would be open at 10 on Christmas Eve and again at 7 on the 26th.

The McDonalds is still 24h, I think

Ramasun

Conspiracy theories about everything that involves self-control or patience.

tinytobe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058290708/lasting-effects-from-the-pandemic

The job market is different. Lot's more hiring via videoconferences and more work from home schemes. I don't necessarily love this development.

Wanderer2010

Its made me much more grateful that my parents, although elderly and not in great health, are still alive. So many people lost their parents through Covid so i want to enjoy every moment with them before they pass on.

Another surprising side effect of the pandemic was its allowed me to cut certain people completely out of my life. I have no respect for anti vaxxers and the amount of people who I previously would have labelled as intelligent who showed themselves up to be rabid conspiracy theories was just bizzare. My values and beliefs are more important than ignorant theories.

Eurox6

I really enjoyed the first lock down,

There was great weather & my son was only a couple of months old so got to spend loads fo time with him

Regards lasting effects i think iv just steeled back in to where i was before hand, Some small changes in how i live my life but people change in 3 years anyway ,

rob316

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120434561#Comment_120434561

Think we all liked the 1st one, at least the novelty of it, it wore fairly fast then with the subsequent lockdowns. My son is autistic with an ID and it was incredibly difficult for him without school, that is one thing I will never forgive the fact those schools were closed down during it. It was totally unnecessary given the small numbers in each class as is.

I definitely value the time I spend with my family after it though, bit of a wakeup call whats important to me.

sameoldname

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058290708/lasting-effects-from-the-pandemic

Just on the subject of road rage, while I haven't seen any examples of it myself, I wonder could it be partially explained by the absolutely shocking drop in the standard of driving since the pandemic? I mean, it was bad before but now it genuinely feels like people are trying to deliberately cause an accident.

the_amazing_raisin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120438723#Comment_120438723

I agree with this to an extent, I feel like during COVID all the people who still had to travel to work got used to the roads being empty. And all the people stuck at home forgot how to drive

I think people's patience is a lot lower now as well. For example if you're working from home part time then you're stuck commuting several days knowing that you're spending an hour in traffic whereas you could have just walked to your desk at home

Before the pandemic nobody questioned it, but since people saw got taste for remote work they're starting to wonder about some of the things they're forced to do for work

Terrier2023

people realised that thier managers at work were nasty arseholes and they enjoyed WFH where the interactions were minim,al and one could always blame the WIFI if you didnt want to see their nasty faces. I think managers got a cold awakening as to what they do & dont do and the bosses saw this too big salary a lot of bullying and actually does little or nothing "! I know several mangers who got their P45's and i enjoyed it !

pgj2015

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120438723#Comment_120438723

Good point. I remember a few months back, they increased the fine for using a phone while driving, from 9 am to 12 pm that day, I counted 7 people using their phone while driving, shocking.

murpho999

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120428583#Comment_120428583

Cashless society was always on the way as technology was improving and being embraced more. Pandemic just gave it a boost but it was always coming .Don't find it shite at all though, it 's more convenient, secure and I dont' worry that the "gubberment" can I see I bought stuff.

Stuff being out of stock was is a supply chain issues again not all caused by pandemic

Your Orwellian point is nonsensical and seems reminds me of people with tin foil hats at the time being anti-lockdown and anti-vax and that's the biggest lasting effect for me as I discovered how many people were idiots during Covid and I'll never look at them the same way again.

brokenbad

Wouldn't be a regular mass goer but have observed that priests have continued to drop the "you may offer each other the sign of peace" handshake at mass for hygienic reasons - probably no harm anyway.

You still meet the odd person at social or work related events who will leave you hanging awkwardly when you extend your hand to shake theirs - and they will either offer a fist bump or elbow bump as you awkwardly revert to their method of greeting.

whisky_galore

Everyone bought a lockdown dog, usually the mini white fluffy miserable looking things. Costing a fortune in vet's bills as many are their own grandpa from puppy farms.

Half still walk them everywhere, the other half shipped them off to over capacity pounds.

whisky_galore

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120428784#Comment_120428784

Not really, most people have stopped wearing them and only wear one when they are forced to.

Only some elderly and people with health issues still continue to wear them in public.

brokenbad

Before the pandemic we used to cough to drown out a fart......now we fart to drown out a cough 😁

riclad

Theres lots of empty offices that have not opened since the pandemic, companys discovered most of their staff can work from home over the web, in california usa they are bringing in laws to make it easy to convert office buildings into housing .people got used to buying everything online, in a few years shops that sell physical games xbox,ps5 may not exist.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-decline-and-fall-of-urban-america/

it also shows that our economy cannot survive without the internet ,its used for business , education, transport ,online deliverys ,commerce.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120442537#Comment_120442537

There won't be any cashless society for a long time. Most people are switched on enough to know that there's zero justification for phasing out cash beyond control purposes. See the uproar recently when AIB tried to make several branches cashless.

Why would you willingly give up the privacy and freedom of cash to people who don't give a flying fck about you (bankers and politicians)? Transactional privacy would be a thing of the past in a cashless society. Further, CBDC (Central Bank Digital Currency) will be "programmable", as already admitted by the FED and ECB. Meaning they can put restrictions on payments however they feel fit.

Card machines etc regularly go down. Throw in the potential for grid failures, cyber attacks etc and you'll realize cashless is a TERRIBLE idea.

This continous ceding of privacy and rights for slightly more "convenience" is just laziness. We already have more than enough convenience.

pgj2015

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120445813#Comment_120445813

People from 18 to 30 are brainless though and prefer to pay for everything by card or phone. its a pity but them morons will make cashless a reality in the near future.

even the older generation are at it, next time you are in the supermarket, watch how many people pay for their groceries by card and phone, 8 out of 10 id say.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120445850#Comment_120445850

Yeah, many will sleepwalk into it, but still, the establishment will have a battle on their hands to phase out cash entirely. As stated above, there is literally no justification for it beyond control.

They'll likely start CBDC with the welfare payments, then work their way up from there. It'll be a gradual process, with both cash and CBDC being used for a while. I forsee the banks eventually pulling a "we will not accept cash after ____ date, so exchange for CBDC now" type move. Very important people are educated and stand firm when that time comes. It'll be a major issue this decade.

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120445813#Comment_120445813

I agree, I doubt anyone alive in Ireland currently will ever see an absolutely cashless society.

its only useful for businesses and appealing to those little troll geek ***** who are all embracing of technology. The types that would read a particular car get panned in industry reviews but buy it because it’s got zero emissions and you can start it via the accelerator using a chip implanted in your big toe..

cashless has more traction in other countries, the Swedes for example are crazy happy about cashless…then again that’s true to form, the Swedes are very embracing of and enthusiastic about new technologies, gizmos and anything culturally diverse, different and impactful…

People herebmoaned about the curtailment of freedoms during the pandemic. Funny they’d be the same cohort who’d like cashless.

murpho999

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120445813#Comment_120445813

It will never be totally cashless but card/phone payments are already taking over and that's just the way it is.

Also, people don't worry about privacy as much as you make out and banks and politicians seeing where you spent your money and how much is not that much of a deal. What are they going to with that information not that I believe they really look at it that much or care about it.

I'm 52 and rarely use cash. Nice not having to worry about losing money or being robbed. Loads of coins is a pain as well.

Once you get used to it then it's very convenient and I'm totally not worried about my privacy.

Your examples of grid failures, cyber attacks are just ridiculous. Only had something like that once in last 10 years , in local Centra, A power cut, took tills out and meant that noting could be bought with cash or card.

Either way it's definitely becoming more popular and will increase, especially when banks start to be replaced with tech companies offering digital wallets like Apple and Google do with their own cards, which is the biggest threats facing banks coming down the road.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120448070#Comment_120448070

What are they going to do with that information? For starters, build a customer profile and sell your data on to other corporations. I know you might not care about your privacy, but a lot of people don't want centralized power having access to every single purchase they make, their whereabouts at all times etc etc.

There's also a possibility they'll introduce a carbon credit system this decade. In a cashless society, your purchases will be limited relative to your carbon credit allowance. This would be near impossible to enforce with cash, but with CBDC, it can be all automatically programmed.

You can literally do whatever you want with programmable currency. Volunteering over that level of power to government and corporations for the rest of your life (and your children's lives) is naive.

As for mass cyber attacks being ridiculous, this is something the World Economic Forum have warned about, and even ran a simulation on. They ran a simulation for a virus pandemic (Event 201) a few months before COVID showed up, so I wouldn't ignore them on this. Varadker, Coveney, Pascal O'Donoghue etc are all members. You'll have to take it up with them if you find the notion "ridiculous", but they say the effects of a mass cyber attack across the world would be devastating. Another reason why we should always retain cash as an option in an increasingly digital world.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=81&v=-0oZA1B3ooI&embeds_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.weforum.org%2F&embeds_origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.weforum.org&source_ve_path=MTY0OTksMjg2NjMsMCwyMzg1MQ&feature=emb_title

https://youtu.be/Sse1SpvIAKU

murpho999

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120448617#Comment_120448617

Sorry but I just find all of above to be tin foil hat stuff and you're ignoring GDPR etc.

Even if your data is sold onto another business, which it won't, what they do with that?

See that you regularly go to Penneys ( but do not know what you buy ) so send you offers from other clothes shops?

Cyber attacks are a different issue and nothing to do with cashless spending as you still have your money in banks and they can be hacked.

degrassinoel

Getting fatter.. and older.. i was never this old before!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120448676#Comment_120448676

Cyber attacks have nothing to do with cashless (IE digital) spending? 😃 Cyber attacks have the potential to disrupt and take down the entire digital infrastructure.

Respectfully, I think some of this may be beyond your technical understanding.

I'll leave you with this: corporations, politicians, and big bankers DO NOT care about you or your rights in any way, shape or form. They're not pushing a cashless society because they care about making your life more "convenient". It's for control. Don't give up the privacy and freedom of cash to them.

I'm off now. Have a good day.

Lewis_Benson

All good here, not much change, maybe a more relaxed lifestyle, but that'd probably more to do with the fact we moved to the countryside during the first wave in 2020.

Lewis_Benson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120442802#Comment_120442802

Rarely see them anywhere now apart from the odd person, if someone wants to wear one that is their own business, has no impact on me.

hynesie08

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120448741#Comment_120448741

Wouldn't that include pos systems, which means cash couldn't be taken either?

BattleCorp

Lazy cnuts in the office are twice as lazy now seeing as they are ...........ahem...............working from home.

dontmindme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120448875#Comment_120448875

Yeh...my place has turned into a 3-day a week along with two days working from home where the minimum is done.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120448788#Comment_120448788

You don't need POS systems to exchange cash or physical goods, mate 😃

Just like you don't need any digital devices or permission to loan your friend a 50 euro note.

Cash is King. Always.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120448741#Comment_120448741

This crazy argument was around when Leap cards were brought in. "I don't want the government knowing where I travel".

Mate you work in a Monday - Friday 9-5 office job where you are paid PAYE, Revenue knows where you spend your week and they couldn't care less.

Pre Covid of course.

hynesie08

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120449030#Comment_120449030

You do for stocktake, orders and returns, not to mention I'd love to see you try to claim the insurance when somebody runs away with your cash.

I revolut my mates like a normal human being, I can get 50 quid to him standing at the bar quicker than you can get him your note.

Cash was king, but the king is dead. Viva la revolut(ion)

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120449052#Comment_120449052

Why would there be an issue claiming insurance? Most businesses who accept cash are insured, mine has up to 15k included, if I wanted to increase it, not a problem, it’s not that expensive.