Is chatgpt going to ruin literally everything?

kneemos · 24-03-2023 1:43am

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2023/03/22/everything-everywhere-is-going-to-change-all-at-once/

Jazz Hands · 31-03-2023 8:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120365377#Comment_120365377

I will quote myself here as Italy are banning ChatGPT over data protection. This was obviously going to happen

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-65139406.amp

25-04-2023 4:26pm

If it isn't banned, or if companies aren't stopped from replacing large swathes of the workforce with it, it will lead to a global crisis with no quick solution and it will change politics dramatically. The internet will be totally different too. I'm coming across AI content everywhere already and that's only while I know what it looks like. Sites like boards.ie might actually become more popular again as people really lose faith in what they're reading on the major social media sites.

I am extremely negative about this. ChatGPT is already being hooked up to external APIs like Zapier that makes tens of thousands of real world actions available to it. The big tech companies are engaged in a race to survive now with AI and the rest of us have already lost. There will be an ugly decade or two of adjustment and some of us will have lived through 08's when we graduated, Covid when we wanted to buy a house and start a family, the financial mess happening now, and then AI taking our jobs with nowhere to upskill or downskill to.

There is no turning back and no way to control it now that the open source versions are catching up. The only way to stop it is with government intervention. We're not and likely will never be ready for a world a huge amount of jobs can be lost in a couple of years because a few tech companies in California thought it would be cool to break stuff and see what happens.

As I've said multiple times, I wish Elon Musk was still involved with openAI. The idea of the world's richest man developing tech that could wipe out hundreds of millions of jobs would make a lot of people more critical of this.

iamstop · 25-04-2023 5:32pm

Sorta related. This dude puts out very good videos about music. This particular one delves in to the AI music controversy going on at the moment.

https://youtu.be/HsaeM9h4s3E

Declan T · 26-04-2023 1:32pm

Probably yes 😫

01-05-2023 6:50pm

https://www.theverge.com/2023/5/1/23706311/hinton-godfather-of-ai-threats-fears-warnings

‘Godfather of AI’ quits Google with regrets and fears about his life’s work

Geoffrey Hinton who won the ‘Nobel Prize of computing’ for his trailblazing work on neural networks is now free to speak about the risks of AI.

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“I console myself with the normal excuse: If I hadn’t done it, somebody else would have,” said Hinton, who had been employed by Google for more than a decade. “It is hard to see how you can prevent the bad actors from using it for bad things.”

briany · 01-05-2023 7:13pm

I have to think that loads of people who work in office jobs which essentially involve them writing reports and tabulating figures will find themselves looking for a new industry if regulations are not brought in to protect those people from sudden redundancy when employers figure that staff is no longer really needed.

I think that artistic expression is not under so much threat, although I guess AI will force some changes towards new forms - not necessarily a bad thing. For example, the invention of the camera made painting pictures an obsolete thing, or so we thought, but the rise of impressionism gave the form a new lease of life.

The other thing is that I think an essential component of art is to create connections between human beings. One person makes a painting, a sculpture or song which expresses a feeling that they cannot express in any other way. Another person sees it and instantly gets the same feeling or has that same feeling within them validated, thus forming a connection between the two people. Not something that can be replicated with an AI, where that experience is one-sided.

silliussoddius · 01-05-2023 8:06pm

Well the advantage is we don't have to hear about d'blockchain for a while.

corkie · 02-05-2023 8:38pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120543682#Comment_120543682

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65452940

We have been warned by scifi for decades about the dangerous AI.

Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein (see below)
Isaac Asimov
The Ultimate Computer
Skynet
Discovery Control

We’ve seen that same cautionary tale play out many times at the movies: HAL in 2001: A Space Odyssey, the replicants in Bladerunner, Skynet in The Terminator, the Machines in The Matrix, the robots in I, Robot, Ava in Ex Machina, and most recently, M3GAN in the eponymous film. If we look hard, we can also find examples of AIs cooperating with humans — Interstellar is one — but it’s the Frankenstein reprises that really stick.

https://www.worldliteraturetoday.org/blog/essay/science-fiction-tried-warn-us-about-ai-or-did-it-tom-gammarino

take everything · 03-05-2023 4:47am

I genuinely believe large language models/AI in general are going to be massively disruptive in an unprecedented way over the next couple of years.

It's a different class of disruption to the printing press, steam engine, etc IMO.

The AI dilemma on YouTube by Tristan Harris is fascinating and sobering. The likes of AI that can interpret fMRI data to produce the image the person was looking at is insane. And that's now.

The pace with which it is developing is incredible and I think people in general aren't talking about it enough or aware of these developments.

Just the idea that 10% of experts in this stuff think that there's a 50% chance that humanity might not survive AI is interesting.

Interesting time to be alive.

03-05-2023 4:57am

https://www.reuters.com/technology/ibm-pause-hiring-plans-replace-7800-jobs-with-ai-bloomberg-news-2023-05-01/

IBM to pause hiring in plan to replace 7,800 jobs with AI.

This isn't Covid or some trend that will work itself out. New jobs won't be created by it and there will be a constant neverending downward pressure on jobs forever. Countries won't be able to get the tax revenues to fund a universal basic income because companies will just put their AI-powered operations in the Cayman Islands.

We went from normality to Covid to a brief dream of WFH to jobs being wiped out in the space of three and a half years.

Run Forest Run · 05-05-2023 12:44pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120543902#Comment_120543902

But couldn't blockchain help to decentralise control of AI, and with smart contracts etc act as a sort of kill switch for any aspect of it that started to gain too much control...

05-05-2023 1:00pm

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Run Forest Run · 05-05-2023 1:01pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120549015#Comment_120549015

In the long run, they will be killing their own profits. And also possibly driving public opinion more towards extreme wealth taxes etc.

Society is not just going to sit there and accept big corporations raking in profits, while they actively kill off millions of jobs. These corps don't exist in a vacuum, they are part of society. They've been able to get away with a lot over the years, principally because they have benefited society in many ways. Including creating jobs. If they start taking increasingly more than they are giving back, then governments and society will start to turn on them in a big way. They're not immune to that sort of backlash.

Emblematic · 05-05-2023 1:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120519823#Comment_120519823

I came across a Youtube video on Orwell's 1984. It wasn't bad. The thing is that it was probably entirely generated by AI. The images were from Mid-journey, the music sounded AI generated and voice was computer generated. Most likely the script also.

I mentioned this earlier in the thread: it will not be long before the majority of content is AI generated and, since AIs are dependent on prior published content for their training data, odd biases, belief systems and inaccuracies will creep in. A sort of evolutionary process will emerge.

While many jobs will go, I think a class of job will emerge, that of being the eyes and ears on the ground for the AI independently verifying facts until the AI has real world presence itself.

silliussoddius · 05-05-2023 5:32pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120558334#Comment_120558334

Maybe make an NFT of the kill switch? It could be as valuable as the NFT of Jack Dorsey's first tweet.

corkie · 07-05-2023 9:04pm

Senior Engineer Predicts Google's Downfall

Luke Sernau warns, in an internal message, that the internet giant is falling behind in the AI arms race.

Google's biggest rival is not OpenAI but the open source communities because they are developing AI models and tools that are cheaper, faster, easily adaptable and adjustable to each client, compared to the giant models of tech groups and more specifically to those of Google.

https://hackernoon.com/google-is-causing-the-downfall-of-google

Google is to big to collapse anytime soon?

Edit: -

https://www.foxnews.com/tech/openai-figure-develop-terrifyingly-creepy-humanoid-robots-workforce

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-08/peter-singer-on-ai-robot-rights/102303010

"Some day, undoubtedly, it's possible that an AI could be conscious and convince us that it's conscious."

"And if that's the case, then we need to take account of the AI's interests, just as we would take account of those of another sentient being."

conorhal · 08-05-2023 3:41pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120368672#Comment_120368672

Yeah... because never before in history has a tiny 1% elite ruled over a kingdom of serfs and slaves that toil for their benefit....

Still, there's many a slip 'twixt the cup and the lip, and it seems that internal documents reveal that Google is rather afraid of the democratization of AI. It seems Large Language Models are not nearly as efficient or effective as smaller modular Open Source AI models easily produced 'hobbiests' models:

https://www.semianalysis.com/p/google-we-have-no-moat-and-neither

The serfs might just win out it seems, if they can wield the same weapons at their masters.

Gregor Samsa · 08-05-2023 4:16pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120570650#Comment_120570650

The poster I was responding to wasn't claiming that AI would make us all serfs or slaves, they were in fact claiming the opposite: That MegaCorp would be the only company left, and use AI to take all our jobs leaving us all unemployed. Yet somehow this mythical person who owns MegaCorp would be infinitely "wealthy" despite having no-one working for them and no one to sell anything to.

It's total nonsense, and your slavery or serfdom analogy isn't relevant to what they were saying or I was refuting. .

Jazz Hands · 08-05-2023 6:11pm

There is a lot of nonsense about chatgpt on this thread.

making it sound like the worlds largest multinationals will be 1 man shows in the future lol.

corkie · 09-05-2023 5:34pm

Apple co-founder warns AI could make it harder to spot scams

Steve Wozniak says content created with artificial intelligence should be labelled and calls for regulation

He argued that responsibility for programmes generated by AI lies with those who publish it: “A human really has to take the responsibility for what is generated by AI.”

He urged regulators to hold to account the big tech firms that “feel they can kind of get away with anything”, but was sceptical regulators would get it right. “The forces that drive for money usually win out, which is sort of sad,” he said.

Wozniak said that “we can’t stop the technology”, but added that we can educate people to spot fraud and malicious attempts to steal personal information.

Another person issuing warnings?

PoisonIvyBelle · 13-05-2023 12:57am

Interesting thread on Twitter at the moment, apparently this article was written by AI using an AI generated image for the "writer" also. Irish Times haven't commented but they have since removed the copy "pending checks".