Are Adult males being victimised in these days?

Relax brah

We have seen some awful news stories of violence/murder towards women in recent years on our beautiful island that NO ONE can stand over, excuse or justify (by any means.)

In the last 12 to 18 months I myself (as a male) am becoming increasingly uncomfortable walking through my local park. Daily (it used to be twice daily) - I go for a walk before work around my local park. I listen to a podcast, sometimes call some friends and clear my head before the day ahead.

I am always friendly, I never stop and talk to people unless I know them but I will always make the effort to smile and say “good morning” at the very least. These days however, I’ve noticed that women look the other way or just ignore me - men are absolutely pleasant and fine with it. This is a well known public park, that is only ever bright when I walk with a really strong community feel (or at least it used to.)

I have felt it has become rather demeaning.

Has anyone else noticed this?

DISCLAIMER: I am not trying to cause any conflict here. I want a healthy debate and nothing more, as this is genuinely is hurting me. Mods please delete if you feel inappropriate

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francois

No

thegame983

Women are more loving, but men are sounder.

Augme

So having seen the awful stories in the news of violence/murder towards women you then proceed to say smile and aay "good morning" to every women you come across on your early morning walks in the park? Lol, not the sharpest knife in the drawer some might say.

Princess Calla

You have to remember that some women have been fielding a lot of unwanted attention from men/boys from a very young age. Especially if they developed early etc. Tbh it can wear you down , to the point that even the simplest interaction can feel like you're being hit on. (That's not massive ego or vanity , just some girls receive an awful lot of attention)

Tbh if I'm in a park on my own I certainly wouldn't be engaging on any level with an unknown man.

Again we've been thought from a very young age to be aware of our surroundings ,tuck hair in when walking home at night so it can't be easily grabbed, hold your keys in your hand (not sure how much good it will do but anyway) walk in centre of road if path has bushes etc.

Relax brah

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120312285#Comment_120312285

I don’t know where you have grown up but where I live (and have grown up for 40+ years) it’s always been the way. I don’t stop at every person and say hello, it’s a courteous thing to say good morning to someone if it makes sense. For many it can brighten up there day - if I was wearing a scream mask and jumping into someone’s face then that’s a different story obviously.

Your post childish and rather defensive, there is no need for a personal jab. This is a discussion. If you require more context just ask - following that maybe we can see who is “the sharpest knife in the drawer.”

StupidLikeAFox

Is this your definition of being victimised? I was expecting an argument like "men get attacked too but don't get the coverage" or something like that - but if you feel victimised because you are not getting a nod on your morning walk you don't really have much to worry about

redlough

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058286778/are-adult-males-being-victimised-in-these-days

I don't understand how it is hurting you that total strangers don't say hello

The World has changed in the last 30 years. Life is busier, people are busier. Especially in cities.

I don't see why people minding their own business, men or women, should feel the need to say Hello to a stranger just in case they are hurting their feeling.

I expect you live in a city, if you really want people to say hello then move to countryside village/town and you will have a different experience.

Augme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120312311#Comment_120312311

You talk about feeling victimised as a male and "becoming increasingly uncomfortable walking through my local park" because women won't respond positively to your smile and "good morning" comment when you walk past them in the park. My first, and still is, reaction is that this must be a troll.

Also, some randomer smiling and saying good morning doesn't brighten up anyones day as much as you'd hope it would.

El_Duderino 09

The world has changed, OP. People are more cautious of strangers precisely because of the murders and attacks you allude to in you're post.

You jusy need to roll with the times and not expect everyone else to hold the same standards of politeness as you. Some people want to be left alone on their walk through the park. So they probably consider what you're doing, impolite.

But that's the level we're talking about. It's a matter of a difference of opinion on politeness rather than victimisation of men.

One eyed Jack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058286778/are-adult-males-being-victimised-in-these-days

Has anyone else noticed this?

I can’t say I have to be honest. When I’m walking to work about 8 in the morning there’s a few morning joggers or other people heading to work and if they say good morning or whatever I’d say it back, but I don’t expect anyone to say it because I know they’ve got as much going on in their heads as I do where I wouldn’t even notice other people.

I thought you were going to suggest men were victims of muggers or assault or something (there are the odd early bird thieves about too), but a victim in the sense that people don’t greet you like they used to? It’s a stretch to use the word victim in that context. I thought hearing stories of assault and thinking you were going to be next was what made you uncomfortable. Women not saying hello to you though? That doesn’t make men victims, that’s just normal.

Truth be told in spite of the many news stories there have been in recent years, it doesn’t put women off being out on their own, which is a good thing because I imagine hearing those kinda stories constantly would be bound to make at least some women paranoid. Doesn’t seem so, which is good, because they’re just going about their day like everyone else.

You're just not making strong enough eye contact. Like, try really eyeballing them as you say "Good morning".

looksee

YOU are uncomfortable because you go through your local park greeting everyone despite evidence that this greeting is not always welcomed.

So. Just. Stop. Doing. It.

freshpopcorn

I'm disappointed the regulars who have a thing for balding middle aged angry men haven't shown up yet!

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120312396#Comment_120312396

Yeah. Absolutely. Stare them out of it. 😆

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120312437#Comment_120312437

🤣🤣🤣

Most of the outrage porn "footage" on social media is fake. Its often from different countries. It often makes claims that never happened. Its all a fake racist narrative to paint all foreign men as rapists and paedophiles.

freshpopcorn

To be honest OP most people who ignore you when you say hello, hold a door, leave them cross the road, give way in traffic, etc. Don't think your rapist. They either have other things on their mind or generally just snotty people.

FintanMcluskey

The fact your in Ireland explains a lot. Irish women are the most unfriendly species on the planet.

I travel a lot for work and I'm shocked how friendly women in the UK & abroad are in comparison.

Bobblehats

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120312519#Comment_120312519

Might be convenient for you they sound English but Limerick & District isn’t even an insurance brokers. It is for you though

osarusan

OP, that's an absurd stretch of the defintion of 'victimisation'.

You claim you want a genuine debate but it's so obviously not any form of victimisation whatsoever that I find it hard to believe your claim.

anewme

It says on that clip Irish woman gets punched out by diversity.

Always thought there was something shifty about that Ashley Banjo and Co myself.

(Horrible clip - hope he was arrested by the way )

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120312708#Comment_120312708

English accent so this can't be pinned on the unvetted wave of rapists everyone is so terrified of. The comments on that Twitter post are scary.

Mad_maxx

Masculinity is portrayed as a disorder by the feminist ideologues who get a frequent run out in the media, this creates a narrative

the exception of course is if the male isn’t white or a traveller, doesn’t matter if he’s running riot in that context, the aforementioned feminists will hold their tongues

redlough

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120312437#Comment_120312437

Don't believe everything you see on the internet would be my answer to that

Cody montana

And yes, the famously oppressed male.

Beyond ridiculous.

TomTomTim

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120312855#Comment_120312855

The clip is a few posts up, are you saying it's fake?

redlough

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120312872#Comment_120312872

I prefer to watch GBNews for all my information 😂

TomTomTim

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120312895#Comment_120312895

Funnily if you did you likely wouldn't be such a master of deny the obvious.

Relax brah

How do I unsubscribe from my own thread? As expected this has gone arseways ffs

Bobblehats

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archermoo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058286778/are-adult-males-being-victimised-in-these-days

No, women you don't know not being willing to engage with you in public places doesn't make you a victim. Stop acting like women who are just trying to go about their day are somehow in the wrong because they don't want to interact with a stranger.

At a guess I'd say it is likely that there are women from that area who talk to each other either in person or online about that creepy guy that keeps trying to engage them in conversation in the park and keeps doing it no matter how much they just try and ignore him.

TomTomTim

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120312942#Comment_120312942

God almighty, you've all but proven his point without even knowing you were doing it. If a man gets judged as a creep simply for saying hello to women, then he's at least somewhat right. If the genders were reserved here, you'd never say anything like that, which is highlighting your own bias.

Clearly too you're not "country", as in the country it's very common to say hello to everyone you pass no matter the gender. It would be considered deeply rude to not say hello back to someone. It's a cultural norm and a good one.

BagofWeed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120312532#Comment_120312532

I was in North Africa in Nov/Dec and was honestly shocked at how friendly the females there were. Just seemed to be genuinely pleasant unlike the angry aggressive ones here in Cork, lol.

Relax brah

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120312978#Comment_120312978

Haven’t you heard? Women can’t be sexist (going by the first page of this thread anyway.)

archermoo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120312978#Comment_120312978

If you think that letting a guy know that he isn't a victim for thinking he has a right to have women talk to him when he wants them to prove that he really is the victim then that says a lot more about you than it does about me.

Women don't owe a man a response just because he says "hi". And yes continuing to try and get one makes you creepy.

Count Dracula

Being a 1500 year old Vampire Lord, I have found it very difficult to engage with anyone whilst walking around St Anns park at 3.30 in the morning.

I must try harder.

Relax brah

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120313063#Comment_120313063

Remember when holding a door open for someone was known as “chivalry,” is that “creepy” now too or is slamming a door more appropriate?

Some of this nonsense talk is absolutely embarrassing tbh.

BagofWeed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120312570#Comment_120312570

Is he supposed to let her hit him ? Although it would be good to see the lead up to the event but I've seen some carry on over the years from drunken/drugged women who think they can do what they want when they are drunk/on drugs based on the belief that a man can't hit a women. People shouldn't be hitting each other full stop. I personally have never seen this attitude from females though in Germany/Netherlands on nights out as people there are generally pleasant and not letting out loads of unpent anger when under the influence.

Augme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120313082#Comment_120313082

Lol. You're the one who feels victimised and too uncomfortable to walk in the park because women won't acknowledge your good morning so I really don't think you're in much of a position to be talking about other people's nonsense talk being embarrassing.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120312920#Comment_120312920

You know full well what you were trying to do and when it doesn’t go to plan and you don’t get the type of responses you wanted you throw a strop. Marvellous.

Relax brah

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120313108#Comment_120313108

You don’t have many male friends if this comes a surprise to you.

Relax brah

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120313113#Comment_120313113

I’ve no idea who you are but you seem to know me and my intentions. Enlighten me

prunudo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120312920#Comment_120312920

I wouldn't go as far as to say I feel victimised but I do agree with your observations. The fact that some posters felt it better to belittle your observations sort of proves where we've gone as a society.

As someone else said also though, I think its also a sign of people being consumed in their own lifes. People definitely aren't as friendly as they used to be and as areas become more built up, the community and friendly spirit tends to lessen imo.

TomTomTim

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120313063#Comment_120313063

You, of course, have completely ignored my point about how you've judged him as a creep for saying hello to passers-by. Of course they don't owe him anything, I never said or implied that they did, but all the same it costs you nothing to say hello back to someone.

Augme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120313120#Comment_120313120

I do, it's just none of them are weird incels.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120313125#Comment_120313125

Go back and read the comment again. You can let me know what part of it you’re struggling to comprehend if you wish and if you’re sound about it I’ll happily help you out.

If you only want people who know you to comment on what you’re posting then say it in person to people you know. You chose to post it to the internet where 99.999% of the people you are saying it to don’t know you and you don’t know them. If you can’t handle people you don’t know commenting on the things you post then I’m afraid the internet probably isn’t for you.

archermoo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120313082#Comment_120313082

I'll certainly agree that some of the nonsense talk is absolutely embarrassing. I'd certainly be embarrassed if I publicly admitted I felt like a victim because random women I don't know in a park ignore me when I try and engage them in conversation. They don't owe you anything.

Relax brah

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120313152#Comment_120313152

So men are ‘weird incels’ now for feeling victimised? If that’s not sexism I don’t know what is.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120313156#Comment_120313156

It’s incel mentality wearing a ‘nice guy’ mask.

Relax brah

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120313153#Comment_120313153

im not against freedom of speech or people having an opinion but when words are twisted to suit a specific narrative than I’d rather ignore it and leave these space cadets to it. You cannot have a discussion with such individuals it’s a complete waste of time.

Once again; thank you for reaffirming my point (albeit unknowingly to yourself.)

Augme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120313159#Comment_120313159

That's a fair point. Men who feel victimised because women don't knowledge their "good morning" greeting are definitely weird. Can't say for definite they are incels but I certainly wouldnt be surprised. That better?