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Why do all new builds look like this now?

  • 03-03-2023 10:39pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,292 ✭✭✭


    White walls

    Grey windows, Grey doors, Grey slate roof

    Feck all soffits

    Big massive panes of glass for windows but the front door completely opaque

    Rectangular protrusions shticking out (a new take on the 70's kitchen extension out the back with corrugated steel roof?)

    Did someone from "the planning crowd" simply invent this look and create an unwritten rule that it would be even harder to get planning permission if house doesn't look like this?





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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,299 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    Ugly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,381 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Probably the cheapest/easiest way to build, plain colours so people can add their own to it. It also looks like a house that would be well outside of most peoples budget depending on where it was built. A prime example of a soulless for-profit build.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,292 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    Nobody adds their own to it. The only way you'd see one a different colour is if the crowd building it ran out of money before they could buy the white paint



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,868 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,381 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    I meant it's plain so people can imagine it in colours they'd prefer. Easier to see a grey/white wall in a different colour than the same wall if it's already painted purple. Might just be me though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Count Dracula


    Never buy a house with no chimney.

    You just never know mortals.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 205 ✭✭Capra


    I see what you are saying. My new build extension has elements of that in that it has a mahoosive window and no overhangs. Although it is definitely more distinctive than most. But I kept the overhangs on the old part of the house as I like the character they add. No overhangs looks right on some houses but more often than not it makes the house look bland. I don't really understand why every single modern house seems to be going that way.


    Like most professionals who spend years in college, architects all tend to think the same. I thought my architect was coming out with some cool new ideas but then when I started looking at design magazines I saw everything he was designing into my house everywhere. It's all copycat and fashion trends.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,213 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    In fairness with the upsurge in the requirement for housing, the fast and artificially engineered growth in population being the catalyst, the only reason you’ll be refused planning permission now is if it is dangerous or actually illegal somehow.…

    the fact that it doesn’t look great ? Government can’t afford to be that picky.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭Andrewf20


    The lack of soffits really detracts from the look in my view. And there seems to be a tendency to see stains running down the side walls after a few years as a result.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,868 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Most houses from the past also have opaque doors. Mine is made of wood.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,718 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Its just a fashion.

    Ask yourself why every 1980s build bungalow looks the way it does. Long, low, window-door-window-window-garage, maybe a velux or two.

    The more homes built in similar style and finish, the cheaper the supply of common materials and more readily available the building expertise to work with the design.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,664 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    It's the new builds with clear glass in the door that puzzle me. No running downstairs wrapped in a towel to make a cup of coffee unless you're an exhibionist.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,664 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Kincora2017


    They’re attempts to design a modern version of a “traditional” or vernacular Irish house. They’re trying to reference the old farmhouses of rural Ireland, but with a modern twist.

    traditionally, rural irish houses were of extremely simple form, typically a long rectangle. They were generally rendered and white, did not have projecting eaves, slates finished flush with gables and often had large expanses of blank walls with no windows on them. They looked the way they did because that was the easiest and cheapest way to build a house back in thr day.

    The current trend in house designs is using these principles and applying them to new builds. Some are more successful than others and you can see different variations across the country. In my opinion they’re generally a step forward from the bungalows of thr 70s/80/ and the big blocky square houses of the Celtic Tiger.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,745 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    I blame Dermot bannon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,218 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I think this is the style of houses of this generation.

    Drive around towns in Ireland and you'll see houses from past decades.

    Each generation thinking it's new and modern.

    The one thing I don't get is when Architects say it's brilliant how these contemporary buildings blend into the scenery/landscape.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,664 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    The one thing I don't get is when Architects say it's brilliant how these contemporary buildings blend into the scenery/landscape.

    They always say it when something sticks out like a sore thumb too. A man-made structure will never blend into the landscape.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack



    You should see some of the entries in RTE’s “Home of the Year”, some of them you’d swear are just converted corrugated haysheds, open-plan inside, they’re built like a showroom. Literally like something made out of Lego:


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/property/homeandgardens/arid-41082463.html



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,608 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Because 'trends'.

    I'm not totally against the above because I kind of like the clean lines and neat appearance. Not my dream design by any stretch but there's always been clear trends that develop for private houses. From the bungalows of the 60's 70's and 80's to the housing estates of the 90's and early 00's there was a hole lot of the 'same' houses being built in each period.

    I'd be much more bothered from this estate house from about 10 - 15 years ago.

    House itself is fine, but there's 4 different style of window opening construction at play here.

    • 4 Inch frame (left of and above door)
    • No frame (right of door)
    • Flush (above and to right)
    • 1 Inch frame (Front Door and at side, but hard to see)

    100 odd houses in the estate and every one of them has this mish-mash appearance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,814 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    It still looks better than any Irish McMansion, esp the ones with "busy" roofs, they will date very badly, some say they looked crap from the outset.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,185 ✭✭✭screamer


    It’s also to do with heating and lighting. Most new houses now which are single builds, are only one room deep for that exact reason. Some of them are built in a h shape same reason. The style is just a modern version of a traditional farmhouse type house, better than the 80s bungalow bliss styles for sure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭McHardcore


    I understand that there might be a nod with this design back to the old, unthatched Irish cottage style, but I don’t like it.

    The lack of soffits really bothers me. It looks like a shed as a result.

    Post edited by McHardcore on


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    If you understood the reason soffits exist in the first place, you'd see the trim detail is superior both in function and aesthetic



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭McHardcore


    Please, help us understand how someone cannot have a difference of opinion on the aesthetics of a soffit so.



  • Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    I'll put it to you this way, it's like preferring someone wearing a plaster cast, over then without one.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Looks lovely.

    Current design trends.

    The same way you can look at period properties and say “Georgian” “90’s” etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Planning guidelines have forced this trend by requiring narrow form structures to mimic the old traditional cottage.

    Personally, I quite like these style of houses but would have to say that the planning system we have is a joke. The fact that you can drive around the country and date any given house to possibly a 5 year period suggests the worst standard of design management.

    Going back to 2000s, it was all narrow window and overhead concrete roof barges, then they started to limit gable width and look for slightly simple detailing and stuff like front facing gables were outlawed. Now its full on cottage proportions with no issues with glazing size. Alot of flat roofing being incorporated also which cannot be a good thing.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭SchrodingersCat


    Posters in this thread seem surprised that others could have a different view on what a beautiful house looks like.

    Better functionality does not necessarily mean better aesthetics. Hell, if we made houses based purely on functionality we would live in waterproof boxes painted white.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,378 ✭✭✭DBK1


    I’d have to agree on the soffit. Any house I see without it looks horrendous and it’s all you can see when it’s not there.

    I happen to like a lot of the more modern house styles, just maybe not the flat roof’s, but no matter what the design is it always looks better with a soffit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,401 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Grey does seem to be a popular house colour now for some reason.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    See room to improve, most architects seem to like very large windows ,large glass doors ,the style of buildings seem to change every 10 years, you can tell a house was built in the 70s, or the 80s its cheaper to build every house with large blocks ,every room is a rectangle large or small ,its just the plaster rendering cover ups this ,the houses from home of the year are not average ,eg they are built by people who are very well off ,on a large budget

    it probably costs 150k now just to build a generic basic house now if you include the cost of the land.



  • Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Good luck getting a site and building a house for 150k!!!

    A modest 1300 sqft house will cost on excess of 180k alone, never mind putting the site cost on top.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    That's not really a typical new build, certainly not in a town or surburban context. It's positively nice compared to the tiny shoebox Semi D estates that are being put up now. A1 rated structures but characterised by a number of factors:

    • no chimney
    • small two storey structures
    • grey metal roofing
    • clad with solar panels
    • gardens that are smaller than the footprint of the small house
    • just about parking for one car, if at all.
    • Expensive

    Lego housing.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,772 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Passive principles will often lead to this design. Windows to south but not too many to cause overheating etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    It's contemporary,quite like it.

    Blame Bannon for the big windows. Though there is a style of big house you often see in farms that has small windows,looks odd imo and must be dark inside.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭SchrodingersCat


    Yep. I agree with you @DBK1. I believe homes without a soffit look “off”. The majority of other current trends I’m OK with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    This is funny. Some of the yokes you see when driving through Ireland defy belief.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    There's a few ostentatious efforts about,but for the most part they're just big houses that look good for the most part imo.

    Often wonder where the money comes from.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,426 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    I like the McMansion look, although some can be over-the-top, if that zinc cladding in the OP was done in stone it'd look much better...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,122 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Smaller windows are from a time when windows lost a lot of heat. Though not everyone loves living in a goldfish bowl either. I like big windows for sunlight. But not a fan where they are overlooked from the street or another house.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,122 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    That architects can can produce ugly buildings demonstrates not all of them have better sense of design and aesthetics than the ordinary Joe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Often see new builds in this style,almost always connected to a farm for some reason. Always think stick a few windows in the blessed thing,the rooms must be huge.

    Maybe a legacy of the "big house" or something.

    https://images.app.goo.gl/nZ5ijCuscwzqrgAA7



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