BBC HD migration - frequency changes

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This discussion was created from comments split from: New Channels.

BBC 2 NI HD due to arrive on the Sky & Freesat EPGs tomorrow. In the RoI it will be on Sky 142. The generic BBC2 HD at 347 is due to close. In NI itself it will be on 102, while in other UK regions it will probably be somewhere in the 970s.

EDIT: For other UK regions it's due to be 970.

Heighway61

QI not on the BBC2 NI HD planner. Replaced with some local norn iron program. Wonder will any other programmes go.

Jim_Hodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120073487#Comment_120073487

You mean like at 9 o'clock tonight???

Heighway61

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120073588#Comment_120073588

10pm Monday QI is replaced with Trad Ar Fad

eguiney

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120073623#Comment_120073623

They often use the 10pm Sun-Thurs slot for local programmes. Friday evening can also be disrupted by local sport.

Any scheduled recordings for the old BBC Two HD need to be replaced. Last night's ones still appeared in the list, but failed to record. Tonight's are now gone.

Heighway61

Detectorists gone too. Unless I want to watch it in SD on my 59" screen.

Gerry Wicklow

@Heighway61 @eguiney According to another forum, it seems the other BBC2 HD is up around 949ish. I don't have a Freesat box so cant confirm this.

Jim_Hodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120074881#Comment_120074881

Absolutely. It's easy to set up any of the BBCs on a menu with a freesat arrangement. We don't use the NI version at all,

Gerry Wicklow

New BBC TP illuminated on 12422 H 27500 2/3 DVB-S QPSK

It looks to be configured for several BBC1 SD and a lot of radio.

Info from Digi man on DS

Heighway61

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120074881#Comment_120074881

Cheers... using a sky box here

dublinman1990

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120075358#Comment_120075358

Yep. The TV channels comprises of two versions of the BBC One Nightlight channel and an SD version of BBC News on there for now.

The radio stations on that TP are BBC Radio Foyle and BBC Radio Wales.

Gerry Wicklow

New BBC TP 12422 H 27500 2/3 DVB-S QPSK update. Looks like a big reshuffle coming for radio and SD services.

Info from Digi man on DS

"6412"____Showing BBC Two - Entertainment.

"6413"____Showing BBC Three - Entertainment.

"6414"____Showing BBC Four - Entertainment.

"6415"____Showing BBC Scotland - Entertainment.

"6416"____Showing BBC Alba - Entertainment.

"6418"____Showing BBC Parliament - News.

"6419"____Showing BBC RB 1 - Entertainment.

"6431"____Carrying BBC Radio 1 - Radio.

"6432"____Carrying BBC Radio 2 - Radio.

"6433"____Carrying BBC Radio 3 - Radio.

"6434"____Carrying BBC Radio 4 FM - Radio.

"6435"____Carrying BBC Radio 5 Live - Radio.

"6436"____Carrying BBC Radio 6 Music - Radio.

"6437"____Carrying BBC Radio 4 LW - Radio.

"6438"____Carrying BBC Radio 5 Live Sports Extra - Radio.

"6439"____Carrying BBC Radio 4 Extra - Radio.

"6440"____Carrying BBC Radio 1 Extra - Radio.

"6443"____Showing CBBC - Kids.

"6444"____Showing CBeebies - Kids.

"6480"____Carrying BBC World Service English - Radio.

"6482"____Carrying BBC Radio Cymru - Radio.

"6483"____Carrying BBC Radio Cymru 2 - Radio.

"6484"____Carrying BBC Radio Scotland - Radio.

"6485"____Carrying BBC Radio nan Gaidheal - Radio.

"6486"____Carrying BBC Radio Ulster - Radio.

"6488"____Carrying BBC Radio London - Radio.

"6490"____Carrying BBC Radio Asian Network - Radio.

marclt

The big news is that BBC One is going HD across the English regions, so I’d expect lots of shuffling about as they re-jig capacity.

dublinman1990

There was some brief Freesat EPG test data available showing all of the BBC One English Regions and remaining BBC TV Channels in HD on Monday. The tests had shown up on various DVB-S transponders on 28.2E for about 24 hours.

However these tests have ended for now.

The DVB-S HD tests were on transponders that currently show all of the BBC One English Regions and other BBC channels full time in SD. They will eventually be upgraded to DVB-S2 to support HD broadcasting from now and the end of March.

There are also going to be some big changes coming for all of the existing BBC channels in HD on Sky and Freesat as well.

They will gradually move over to new frequencies once the HD tests for the BBC One English Regions begin in the next few weeks. These tests will also include the HD feeds for BBC Alba, Parliament and the Red Button.

The first of the DVB-S2 HD tests will begin on the 24th of January according to Clean Feed's website.

10.45pm Upcoming BBC satellite changes

Some BBC satellite updates coming up this month and next.

Astra 2E, transponder 48 (10818V) will be cleared on 24th January. That affects:

• BBC One South SD
• BBC One South West SD
• BBC One Oxford SD
• BBC News Channel SD
• BBC One Northern Ireland SD
• BBC Two Northern Ireland SD

The transponder will then be updated to DVB-S2 and from 13th February will carry the following channels (and others):

• BBC One London HD
• CBeebies HD
• BBC Four HD

Ahead of those changes, testing of BBC One South HD continues. BBC One Oxford SD is now a relay of BBC One South, following the closure of the Oxford TV news operation last month.

BBC One South West HD follows soon.

**BBC Two Northern Ireland HD formally launches on satellite this Thursday (testing has been ongoing for months).

Courtesy @a516digital.

**BBC Two NI HD has already launched on Sky and Freesat on the 5th of January.

The post on Clean Feed was posted on the 2nd of January.

Gerry Wicklow

Not sure if this was mentioned before but there is another BBC test channel on

12422 H 27500 2/3, DVB-S QPSK SIDs 6425 and 6426 called "BBC One Nightlight" for now.

The idea is to replace existing SD regional variations with this single version advising viewers to upgrade to HD. I'm guessing the two SIDs are for Sky and Freesat.

eguiney

For anyone still using a non-HD Sky box, BBC One/Two NI will change to UK-wide versions tomorrow.

The HD versions of regional BBC One for England, BBC Parliament, BBC Red Button and BBC Alba will launch over a month beginning tomorrow, so "Other Channels" may need to be updated. The timetable is at the following address:

https://www.hdsatelliteupgrade.co.uk/when-does-my-area-switch

BBC Radio stations are also going to move over that period

Gerry Wicklow

It seems the BBC SD/HD reshuffle has begun. Official FreeSat boxes should retune themselves automatically.

We'll probably soon find out who is watching SD versions on FTA boxes. "Brace for impact" 😜

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120147512#Comment_120147512

BBC1 NI HD got moved for the UK outside of NI regions on the Sky EPG. Moved from 953 to 979. BBC2 NI HD at 970. Odd that BBC2 is ahead of BBC1 now.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120154175#Comment_120154175

Great if it happens. Out of all the main UK channels (from the BBC, ITV, Ch4, Ch5), that would only leave 5Star, 5USA, 5Action, 5Select (and a couple of others) that would remain in SD FTA at 28.2E after the BBC changes finishing at the end of March.

Gerry Wicklow

The old SD BBC TP has been cleared of existing services and has changed parameters to S2

10818 V 23000 3/4 DVB-S2 8PSK

They really ain't hanging around 😁

Gerry Wicklow

Changes continue on 10818 with the addition of a BBC1 HD E Midlands region, BBC2 HD Wales? and Cbeebies HD so far

dublinman1990

BBC One East HD and BBC One East Midlands HD will be launched on Sky's UK EPG from Wednesday the 1st of February.

https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/What-s-On/Changes-to-the-Sky-TV-guide-February-2023/td-p/4214537

I would assume that they will be launched on Freesat the day before it on the 31st of January.

mackersdublin

https://www.hdsatelliteupgrade.co.uk/when-does-my-area-switch

Has the dates for Freesat & Sky for the upcoming BBC HD launches

dublinman1990

All HD versions of BBC Scotland, BBC Two Wales, BBC Four and Cbeebies have been moved over to 10818 V 22000 on Sky and Freesat from today.

BBC Four and Cbeebies HD have SIDs for Sky Ireland EPG. They are 10394 and 10395.

The Nightlight versions of these channels have also been launched in SD from today.

BBC One East HD and BBC One East Midlands HD will be launched on Sky and Freesat in the UK tomorrow.

Mav11

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120183988#Comment_120183988

I think BBC 4 has moved to 10818 v 23000?

Jim_Hodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120184097#Comment_120184097

Same channel as Cbeebees.

Dec4

Anyone know where BBC 4 HD has moved to? Its no longer appearing on 11024/H/23000 on my FTA box...

The 10818V transponder only has SD.

mackersdublin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120187657#Comment_120187657

10.818 is now 23000 3/4 DVB-S2 8PSK and carrys HD channels including BBC Four HD

dublinman1990

BBC One West Midlands HD, BBC One East Yorkshire and Lincolnshire HD and BBC Alba HD will begin testing on Sky and Freesat from tomorrow (Thursday 2nd Feb).

The tests will appear on 11023 H 23000.

Dec4

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120187685#Comment_120187685

Thanks again @mackersdublin , had scanned the 10.818 TP but forgotten to change from 22000 to 23000...!

Back in action!

Triboro

So are BBC 1&2 NI sd gone completely now in favour of the hd versions?

Gerry Wicklow

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120195070#Comment_120195070

BBC is phasing out its SD services. There will be a temporary generic version during the transition with notices advising viewers to upgrade.

https://www.hdsatelliteupgrade.co.uk/

Is BBC Alba HD on 10818? I watch that channel,similar to TG4 with football coverage and very interesting local Scottish programmes!

Gerry Wicklow

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120195399#Comment_120195399

BBC Alba is HD on 11023 H 23000 3/4 8PSK sid 8926

BBC1 HD Scotland and BBC1 HD Wales are also on this TP

Triboro

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120195201#Comment_120195201

Ah right, I'm using an older sky box for fta channels, good info on that link!

Many thanks.

Johnboy1951

Has BBC RB1 gone HD also?

Cannot seem to locate it if so.

stanley1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120196630#Comment_120196630

13th Feb.

Lorddrakul

Hey all,

bit of a newbie question here.

I don't seem to be able to manually input the new BBC4 HD settings.

I have an old Vu+ Duo running an Open Blackhole image 4.3.1 (AKAIR).

If I do an automatic scan for the channels, will I lose all the bouqet configuration I've done?

Cheers,

LD

swoofer

If you go to tuners and scanning and then select signal finder, where it says scan type change it to user defined, then input the new parameters.

10.818 V is now 23000 3/4 DVB-S2 8PSK and carries HD channels including BBC Four HD.

Toggle to change settings, eg DVB -S arrow right gets dvb-s2, Make sure you are on correct sat 28e.

And yes if you do auto scan you will lose bouquets.

When you find BBC4HD you can then move it to your bouquet using remote but comeback when found and i'll say more.

Lorddrakul

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120197143#Comment_120197143

Thanks very much, that worked. Or at least I think it did and I;ll check it when the service starts at 19:00.

OG Red Devil

Did anyone else have BBC News relocate? I looked at the website HDsateliteupgrade and no obvious reference to it moving, but my Parents are using a Zgemma H.2S and I am all new to this so figuring out on the fly.

Thanks in advance for all advice

Gerry Wicklow

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120197881#Comment_120197881

Presumably they were watching the SD version which has moved temporarily but will cease at some point.

However the HD version is available now on 11023 H 23000 3/4 8PSK.

The temporary SD version is on 12422 H 27500 2/3 DVB-S QPSK

Lorddrakul

BBC News HD didn't move from where I last had it, yet at least.

Just confirmed BBC Four HD on the manual tune is working fine!

Cheers, @Gerry Wicklow and @swoofer

Johnboy1951

wrong thread, sorry.

Gerry Wicklow

10788 now cleared of SD channels and Radio. Parameters have now changed to

10788 V 23000 3/4 8PSK DVB-S2

Presumably more HD regions will migrate here in the next few days.

Gerry Wicklow

10788 now carrying

*** BBC Red Button 1 HD (SID 10329)

BBC One CI HD

BBC One S West HD

BBC One West HD

--------------------------------------------------------------

10818 now carrying BBC Scotland HD

info from iLied on DS

Gerry Wicklow

10788 gone off for now but IT IS STILL TESTING.

dublinman1990

10818V 23000 has the video feed for BBC Scotland HD. However it has EPG data for BBC One London HD at the moment.

Gerry Wicklow

There was two channels carrying Scotland earlier on 10818 but again it IS all still testing.

What frequency are all the BBC radio stations on now?