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Is 2FM dead in Dublin?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,012 ✭✭✭Expunge


    So, just an hour of 'light Classical' on a Friday night? And what about contemporary classical music, electro-acustic sound art? Do you want Rick and Ronan Collins to set up and play part of a Schumann symphony or The St. Matthew Passion by JS Bach?

    Please, tell me how you'd see it going.

    And how RTE management are to justify that to both Gold fans and those who pay a licence fee for a specialist music and arts channel?



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,060 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    That is a confusing statement, seeing as Dave Fanning is still there!


    Would anyone like to address the original premise of this thread - the Dublin angle?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    In the 00s, Lyric was the dumping ground for "no room at the inn" djs but now Gold has replaced Lyric for that purpose. There were rumours in the late 00s that Ronan Collins was going to be transferred to Lunchtime on Lyric to enable Tubs and PK do two hours each



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,984 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    I mean when he used to play good music on his evening / night show.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,060 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    For 2FM to be relevant for audiences in Dublin, it needs to have a distinct identity. I mentioned the possibility of merging with RTE Gold. Another angle might be to merge with 2XM, i.e. an alternative-leaning service. Dave Fanning, Dan Hegarty and Cormac Battle would fit in. It would also serve that FM radio listener who misses Phantom/TXFM.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Fanning is - believe it or not - still on 2FM at the weekends.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,984 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Oh , I thought he was a daytime talk host. Shows how much I listen to 2FM



  • Registered Users Posts: 881 ✭✭✭radiotrickster


    Everything 2Fm does, another station in Dublin does better. The only thing you won’t find on other Dublin stations is a strong dedication to playing Irish music but how much of the audience cares about that?

    I don’t listen regularly so perhaps the music policy has changed, but I’ve heard a lot of unknown artists on the station over the years and yes, it’s great that they’re supporting upcoming talent but I would wager the average person in their 20s-40s would rather hear Harry Styles or Beyonce than a lot of the style of Irish music they play.

    2fm just does not fit into the Dublin market



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    9 years ago today John Clarke's Ireland's biggest Jukebox aired on 2fm for the last time.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,508 ✭✭✭its_steve116


    I remember it, the last song played was Kevin Johnson's "Rock and Roll I Gave You the Best Years of My Life".



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    As many people here predicted, the 2 Johnnie's have been a flop according to the jnlrs



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,739 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Wonder was it a toss up between that and Harry Chapin’s ‘W.O.L.D.’?

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    The reason 2fm was launched was to provide an irish radio station that played pop music , now young people listen to spin fm, spotify it would be better off copying radio 2 in the uk.Having programs presented in irish would reduce its audience by 90 per cent.i think its at least 10 years since 2fm was relevant to young people. if it closed down tommorow would anyone under 30 care ,i think the dave fanning show is good but you can listen to that as a podcast.

    its probably impossible for rte to close 2fm, even if it has as awful audience figures its basically a semi state operation.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    RTÉ would need to get premission from the minister to close any of its stations down. Just because 2FM isn't popular in Dublin doesn't mean it should necessarily close down. RTÉ's problem over the last 12 years is that it has funded the channel from the licence fee and have made no cuts to it.

    Perhaps its time for RTÉ to consider having RTÉ GOLD where 2FM is in Dublin? Or opt outs of the station for Dublin. or perhaps moving the station to Cork or Limerick to better server the rest of the country and build its audience outside Dublin?

    It's gone below Lyric FM in Dublin!


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,766 ✭✭✭mumo3


    I would be a fan of Q102 in the mornings, its less chat. I'm listening to the radio on the way to work for a bit of banter and a few tunes. But I've noticed morning radio is all chat, and what I dislike most about 2fm is it feels like they are trying too hard, to be funny, relevant or whatever else, sometimes it just comes across as either cringey or mean. Now I have listened to the 2 jonnies a few times, couldn't pick them out of a line up, but in terms of banter they seem to just gel, it doesn't sound like they are being forced to come up with a topic of conversation. But in saying that I wouldn't listen to them for my whole journey.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    2FM Breakfast are definitely trying to hard IMO, I don't see much of a difference between the 2 Johnnies and Dermot & Dave and Ray Foley, I think 2FM wanted something different but have ended up with a show that is similar to many pairings on other stations.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,086 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    How's it doing in Mullingar?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    All Adults Aged 15+ Average Weekday Yesterday Listenership

    9.2% in the North East and Midlands which would cover Mullingar, so I guess they have the Mullingar crowd. IRadio just pips them at 9.3% but 10.7% for Today FM.

    The only area that 2fm reaches over 10% is in the south east, but Today FM is at 17% and Beat is at 22%.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,763 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    It only gets those numbers in the south east because the choice on FM is appalling.



  • Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭Muller1991


    I wouldn't say the choice is appalling to be honest. From Rosslare you can pick up TodayFM, Newstalk, Beat, South Coast, Radio 1, RnaG, and a lot of UK based radio stations on a very good signal oh and eh 2FM too.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,763 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    Go inland and away from Rosslare and you won't get any UK based stations. The south east is much more than there.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,290 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    Who is the target audience?

    The breakfast show is chronic. Zamporelli is grating.

    At least McDermott is gone. Small mercies.

    The two Johnnies haven't evolved at all. It's all about the culchie stick and they really can't do anything else. Fine for regional radio but not for the national airwaves.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    The Irish Times Disagrees

    Zamperelli - Punchy - "pacy items, punchy pop playlist and self-consciously irreverent style" - "highbrow" -

    2FM Breakfast - feelgood mood - "so maniacally goofy" - "hyperkinetic on-air chemistry" - "relentlessly uproarious atmosphere" - "the trio’s personalities front and centre"



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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,060 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    The OP refer specifically to Dublin. Should 2FM throw in the towel in relation to winning over the Dublin audience and concentrate on other areas around Ireland?



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,290 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    They might do.

    The Irish Indo do too I'd say. She's also described as a comedian when you look at Wikipedia.

    All of the journalists who cover the celebs won't criticise them.

    She is terrible though.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Yes, I think it should move to either

    1. Make a home for itself in Limerick
    2. Have opt outs for dublin that would include live shows from the Digital Music stations GOLD, 2XM and PULSE.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,995 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    Bland station, playing safe bland music, bland presenters.

    The reality is we don't actually have any really good radio stations in this country.

    Nova used to be decent, but it has fallen into the same state in the last 8 years or so.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,012 ✭✭✭Expunge


    Jaysus, Limerick - the graveyard for unloved and unwanted presenters and services from RTE.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,060 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    That suggestion nicely marries different ideas that I was pondering. Trying to get the non-Dublin audience, and merging with the digital stations for Dublin.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 633 ✭✭✭TheBMG


    Dublin market share 15-24

    43.3% Spin1038

    2.6% 2FM


    fair to say it’s not working inside the Pale



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