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Government's secret plan to block repayment of illegal nursing home charges

  • 29-01-2023 12:37pm
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    The top-secret files confirm the State faced the prospect of a €12bn liability in compensation for hundreds of thousands of families who were wrongly charged for the care of their loved ones over a 30-year period. Documents obtained reveal how successive senior government leaders acted in unison to thwart repayments worth billions to those wrongly charged.

    They did this by backing a covert legal strategy designed to cover up the fact that the State knew it could not win hundreds of cases – some of which are still outstanding – taken by families affected by the scandal. As a result of this strategy, compensation was denied to anyone who did not have the resources to fight legal cases. The rest of the cases were all quietly settled by the State.

    This could be big as it involves current government ministers.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 43,004 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989

    Anyone who has had the misfortune having to go to “the state” looking for anything knows how they operate

    At a minimum this story should be a real eye opener for those who are lucky enough to have never dealt with them

    but if this is as bad as it looks it could be the story that rocks the foundation of the Republic

  • Registered Users Posts: 80,241 ✭✭✭✭Overheal

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭deirdremf

    I'm sure it wasn't a conspiracy, just a meeting of minds. Nothing wrong with that either - is there?

  • Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭pnott

    100% the Dáil should be dissolved this week and an election called after a slew of resignations. This will be an interesting week. It will be difficult for the government to weasel their way out of this however they will try I'm sure.

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,359 ✭✭✭Floppybits

  • Registered Users Posts: 8,195 ✭✭✭BrianD3

    They'll try to muddle through this by pointing to 2011 being the middle of the financial crisis and how "difficult decisions were necessary to protect the taxpayer and state's finances in unprecedented times".

    Also, seeing as Kenny, Gilmore, Reilly and co. are all long gone from the Dail, expect some of "that was before my time" type excuses plus the old reliable learning of lessons.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭eggy81

    The fire blankets will be out in the morning I’m sure.

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,302 ✭✭✭jackboy

    Any politician who comes out tomorrow to try explain, rationalise or justify this can be written off as pure scum. Resignations and apologies only will be an acceptable response.

  • Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭pnott

    Sinn Féin probably. They seem to be their go to anytime there is a scandal.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭deirdremf

    This is the final chance for the Greens. It's not as if I hold out any hope for an ethical response from them, but when they say "nothing to see here" - as I expect them to do - any floating support they have left will desert them.

    Ditto Fianna Fáil. They gave Paschal a pass over the last couple of weeks, but that won't work this time around. In fact IMO they may even come out of this worse off than FG - precisely because FG is all about interests, it's a coalition of various well-off groups whose only real policy is to look after themselves, and they have noone else to represent them. FF will still have some older voters who expect their party to look after them, and I can see them deserting FF in large numbers after this. They may not go anywhere else, they may just give up on politics altogether, and cause a final realignment in Irish politics by removing FF from the equation.

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,359 ✭✭✭Floppybits

    The thing is that FF are up to their eyeballs in this as well. There is nowhere for them to hide. Notice how quiet the FFG supporters are in this. Not a comment from any of them on this.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Jarhead_Tendler

    No fear of any of the Ministers with form for leaking doing so here.

  • Registered Users Posts: 568 ✭✭✭72sheep

    Forget the usual suspects on here. Just savour the moment tomorrow morning when opening up the IT, Indo and RTE to see their "independent" coverage :-)

  • Registered Users Posts: 27,688 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko

    I hear that Mick Stone donated the van to carry the plan around, so maybe they could get him to resign again.

  • Registered Users Posts: 363 ✭✭BagofWeed

    The lack of posts is very telling !! All the major news outlets will spend tomorrow covering the adventures of Enoch Burke. And this will soon be forgotten.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭Curse These Metal Hands

    Ah the old drag your citizens through the courts before they give up or you're forced to settle routine. I'm sure they'll be delighted that a lot of the people affected by this have died by now.

  • Registered Users Posts: 363 ✭✭BagofWeed

    Hopefully. It's being getting closer and closer to tipping point recently and this as you say affects a lot of households so with some luck heads will roll.

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