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Why is it always the woman giving out?

  • 29-01-2023 11:25am
    Registered Users Posts: 8,717 ✭✭✭

    I work nights a lot and get to observe the general public after they have had a few drinks.

    Every night you will see couples having a big argument, 100% of the time its the woman who seems to have a problem with something the man did. I have never seen it the other way around.

    Post edited by Ten of Swords on



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,354 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland

    At a guess, I’d say they have more to give out about.

    The tide is turning…

  • Registered Users Posts: 8,717 ✭✭✭pgj2015

    I don't think so, women do as much stupid annoying things when out drinking. I remember being out with an ex and she started telling the taxi driver how great her ex was, thats the kind of $hit women would go crazy over if the other way around.

  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    Men and women are very different and those differences should be celebrated rather than pretending we’re the same

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,160 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious

  • Registered Users Posts: 19,424 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui

    Women initiate divorces far more than men, so one shouldn't be surprised.

    Post edited by cnocbui on

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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,487 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore

    That follows that they make more bad choices of partner.

  • Registered Users Posts: 17,796 ✭✭✭✭silverharp

    I dont argue with women or children

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer

  • Registered Users Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump

    Or maybe they already have what they want out of the relationship.

  • Registered Users Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump

    It's the man's fault anyway

    For letting them out of the kitchen

    /runs away

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Count Dracula

    Choose wisely.

    The reason women are to be found screeching profanities at their loved ones can be encapsulated into their frustrated value system, which has eventually evaluated, that their partners direction on how tonight's activities proceeded, returned at a deficit to how he she had anticipated his earlier announced declarations eventually transpired....

    In brief, the crap he told her about what was happening that night never amounted to anything and all the money, time and effort she invested in his notions has resulted in her standing full bladdered and hungry, on the side of a cold Irish street in the middle of the night, having spent the previous 3 hours sharing the same toilet seat with potentially 400 other disillusioned females, who are all now in active competition for the limited options available to get home again, where they are to be expected to make love amorously, to the same person who spent the last 4 hours, not engaging in any form of conversation with them, whilst either laughing in hysterics with his pals, some of which she is naturally incompatible with in any way possible, or leering inappropriately at other females, some of which could actually be her friends, with whom her partner was not actually aware existed until she had made his acquaintance, which she is now beginning to regret entirely.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,197 ✭✭✭BrianD3

    From a woman's pov, most men are not physically attractive, particularly accomplished or "badass" - yet many of these men have partners. The conclusion is that women are settling which is a recipe for resentment and frustration. Add in alcohol and frustration comes out over something trivial.

    Also, in a sausage fest environment like a pub, there will likely be some men there who are taller, better looking and more muscular than her partner, increasing her frustration. There may be male bouncers who have more situational and physical power than her partner.

    Add to this how it is socially acceptable for a woman to berate a man in public. If it's the other way around, there will be pathetic white knights jumping in.

    Post edited by BrianD3 on

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,012 ✭✭✭Mister Vain

    It always seems to be the man that ends up in the dog house afterwards too. Is there a dog house for women?

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,515 ✭✭✭Day Lewin

    There should be.

    Some people are just natural-born whingers, but they shouldn't be given too much airtime. Just depresses everyone.

    Think positive, happy, be jolly! Life is short, try it all!

    Ah thanks, I'll have another gin and tonic...

  • Registered Users Posts: 11,799 ✭✭✭✭anewme

    Thread is ironic given that it’s almost wall to wall natural born whingers, none of which are women.

    Even a few conspiracy theorists, who think the arguments must be because of the quality of the bouncers in the pub.

    Poor, poor men, as op says, 100 percent of people giving out are women. Always women giving out to men.Men have it soooo hard.

    If you listen closely, you can even hear the worlds smallest violin playing…

  • Registered Users Posts: 8,717 ✭✭✭pgj2015

    Are you saying most men are ugly and most women are stunners? Id say its 50/50, at least men dont use make up to hide the fact they might be ugly.

  • Registered Users Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump

    Speak for yourself and your dog-faced buddies. I'm only a bleedin' ride.

  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    As women we should acknowledge these things instead of being defensive, because it's true. It's more acceptable and commonplace for a woman to publicly verbally abuse her male partner than the other way around (which people would be more shocked by, let's face it). I can't stand women who act in that aggressive, controlling way - it's undermining, humiliating, and at worst, abusive. It also gives misogynists excellent fodder.

    However, "From a woman's point of view" - post by a man. How the heck does that work? And men who intervene when a man is yelling at a woman are not "pathetic white knights" (a term for those looking for a ride) - they're decent guys who don't like seeing bullying. Yes I agree, it's less likely when a woman is giving a man a bollocking, but it doesn't mean it deserves to be sneered at. The attitude that men being yelled at by women is no big deal, doesn't just come from women either.

  • Registered Users Posts: 29,861 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn

    I thought this was going to a thread about Mary Lou!

  • Registered Users Posts: 23,619 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34

    Women have expectations which are too high and construct these totally unrealistic and fantastical scenarios in their heads, about what and how their lives should be, rather than what they are.

    And I'm not talking about aims or life goals, which are perfectly laudable, I mean daft comparisons to their sisters or friends or some bellend on the TV. And all that makes them obsessive and jealous and uncomfortable with themselves and with life.

    Men can do either of two things with that; accept it and listen to the endless giving out, or try and disabuse the women of their ideas.

    This isn't gaslighting, its actually mindfulness.

  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    Be more specific as to which women, Larbre - as that doesn't remotely describe me or my friends.

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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 6,834 Mod ✭✭✭✭Raichu

    Jaysus some of you need to find better people to hang out with. This isn’t a womens issue that’s just shite people you’re engaged with.

    Choose better friends/partners

  • Registered Users Posts: 16,486 ✭✭✭✭osarusan

    Thread is fully of truly moronic generalisations.

  • Registered Users Posts: 43,006 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989

    My old hen is a very tolerant woman if on the rare occasion she has a go at me it would be very well deserved but she certainly wouldn’t do it in the middle of a public house

    next morning that’s when the fun starts

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,924 ✭✭✭Jequ0n

    Am I missing something here? I thought this thread was specifically about alcohol/ substance induced aggression which the OP witnessed?

    So I guess less tolerance due to less body mass brings out the more volatile sides. And sure, female aggression against men is still laughed off by large parts of society, or at least not taken seriously. Saying that I probably deserved every slap I ever received that way in those situations.

  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 6,834 Mod ✭✭✭✭Raichu

    I don’t think anyones trying to make light of violence towards anyway or indeed belittling the issue in fairness

  • Registered Users Posts: 9,461 ✭✭✭Furze99

  • Registered Users Posts: 12,378 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat

    Oh goody! Another thread full of male experts on women's behaviour, choices and motivation. Thank God, at the age of almost 52 I'll finally get it right. If only I'd seen something like this before.....

  • Registered Users Posts: 31,633 ✭✭✭✭gmisk

    Yikes...this thread is giving serious Jim Davidson/divorced dad vibes.

  • Registered Users Posts: 12,378 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat

    Obviously, now that the men have explained it all.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,619 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34

    You only think it doesn't. Which is a decent chunk of the problem.

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