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Boards & the disillusioned internet user

  • 28-01-2023 4:44pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭chrissb8


    Every time I come back to boards after a few months I see more people who are incel-like in their posts/threads, get their worldview from the internet, and use terms that on exist on the internet like "quality men" or "quality women". Beta males, alpha males is another one I hear frequently. And even simps.

    It's not that the world is against you, it's that you make up excuses like unattainable women/men to not do anything to better yourselves. I can only speak for men but there's the whole if you're not 6ft, six figures, or don't have good facial symmetry it's game over. You'll never find anyone. It's like if you don't get a pornstar/Instagram model-looking gf then what's the point you suck.

    Too many commentators on YT and echo chambers give the same sentiment that the world is set up in a way that you surely can't succeed in any meaningful way.

    Why do you think this has come about and why are so many people making excuses as to not improve their life because they can never achieve these ridiculous lofty goals which don't apply to 99% of the population?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    The internet is disillusionment. The more time you’re seen to have the more disillusioned



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,846 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    What about the one's who are always on about the angry middle aged white men.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    I don't agree that it's all that common. Perhaps we frequent different threads but I can't, honestly, say I noticed much of that at all. Boards has a large number of forums, threads and posts. What you're highlighting must be a miniscule percentage of them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25 AIDAN8319


    The irony of starting a thread like this when you're behaving in exactly the same manner of the people you're complaining about. Also, I stopped reading after incel. It would be a good idea for you, yourself to get outside more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭j2


    Large simpin' incels are the bigger issue. Imagine a 480lbs shut-in incel who works online and dines on grease every day, along with about 12 redbulls a day and 8 w@anks. Imagine the same guy getting no exercise, having mental illness and hating all "normie". Dangerous cocktail, a ticking timebomb of online hate. They're out there, ready to explode in your face.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,450 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Remember when they used to refer to those people as Gammons?

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users Posts: 25 AIDAN8319


    Explode in your face?? sounds like you've been having wet dreams😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,260 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    If you think boards is bad for incel sh1te you ain't seen nothin' yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,961 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    We live in a society where - despite all our problems - most people have enough to eat and drink, and a warm-ish comfortable-ish place to live. All our basic necessities have been met; we no longer live in the very precarious conditions of pre-Famine Ireland, or even the slightly uncomfortable conditions of pre-Celtic Tiger Ireland. So what do we need other people for, bar sex?

    IMO Covid brought all of this to a head, and we're a bit like like the mice in Calhoun's Mouse Utopia experiment https://www.iflscience.com/universe-25-the-mouse-utopia-experiment-that-turned-into-an-apocalypse-60407.

    Obviously this is a simplification, but the parallel is suggestive. Clearly we are not mice either, so don't take it as a model of what has to happen in human society.

    And finally - if you're planning on complaining about Nanny State and how terrible the concept of social welfare is - maybe you could consider first how the children of the well-off get all their needs met by Daddy and Mammy; or should that be Dad and Mum?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,260 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    This is true. If you have dole or soon to be universal basic income all your needs can be met by robots and pixels on a screen. We can all collectively disengage our brains and coast along happily towards death. People living such a life won't even feel the need to reproduce or have actual sex so there is big die off coming.


    After this die off completes there will be a new much smaller generation of "outliers" who will inherit the world and start from scratch. Much of the infrastructure and even technology from current and previous generations will be lost or fall into disrepair as the population shrinks



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,961 ✭✭✭deirdremf


    I wouldn't be as negative as you, but certainly the rich on welfare from Daddy and Mummy often don't have big families. Indeed, over the generations there has been a sizeable proportion of rich sons and daughters who have not reproduced, a phenomenon that is well documented. The part in the article I linked to that mentions a sub-set of the mice that spent their time grooming rather than socialising, and I immediately thought of the children of the 1%!

    I find it interesting that as the world has got wealthier people have had bigger houses and smaller families; and when I began working in an office environment it came as a huge surprise to me how many of my married colleagues had chosen to have no children at all. I write this as an observation, not as a criticism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,260 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    Its loads more than just those. The kids of the 1% might make up 2 or 3% at most. An ever increasing part of the population are becoming technohermits both male and female and I think this is happening almost entirely due to technology making it possible. For the girls its mostly duvet days and netflix with jar of nutella. For the lads its gaming, reddit and doritos. All of them collectively just wasting away and letting themselves go weight-wise. Some of them still need jobs so they'll seek out something they can do from home or in a quiet corner and do as little as possible, perhaps leveraging things like ChatGPT to do the donkey work for them.

    If you want to see how things will go in a few years over here just look at how things are going in Japan and to a lesser extent USA & London. Things are looking fairly grim but on the plus side at least the housing crisis will eventually go away



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Kurooi


    I think the problem is a sort of sex gap. Young women arrive at expectations that they should have a fit, rich mr perfect, internet and especially social media, all inflate their egos to absurd levels. Meanwhile young men bombard their brain with so much porn they have at best a twisted idea of what a relationship is supposed to look like.

    By late 20s both women and men will be single because there was no mr right and no ms. perfect. By then both settle in their ways, develop more and more expectations, and just generally become less easy to get on with. And you get incel men and desparate women talking about "Quality" as if this was all some sort of game.

    It's a lot easier if you find someone early. No expectations just natural human attraction and social ability work their magic. At least that's my take!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Count Dracula


    It is a groundbreaking invention which has been an enormous catalyst in the growth parameters of global communication.

    There is good and bad in everything.

    It is regrettable that it has come at the expense of our privacy. It owns us now, we have been consumed by it, if you haven't yet you will be? If you ignore its' existence it will leave you behind and obsolete.

    It is and will be acknowledged as the next major phase, or timepiece, or benchmark... in the history of human intercommunications on this planet since the invention of Guggenheim's printing press?

    It should and will facilitate growth in our knowledge of everything. This should also lead to the development of completely irrelevant bubbles of information consumption, which we may not realize were completely pointless for centuries?

    What you get out of it is what you will. I do find it incredibly sinister that some platforms are offering virtual reality as a product. That is going to lead to massive health problems in the space of half a century, probably encompassing a more detrimental health crises than disease, Global warming and nuclear war. combined.... One of the most influential platforms on the planet, is advocating and providing opportunities for people to sit on their couched arses, roaming and interacting in a superficial virtual universe, for the rest of their personal lives? It may even facilitate income generating solutions for participants. All well and good, but the sudden transformation, in perhaps 1-3 generations, from having to grow your own food and reap our own fields and manage our own living supplies... to a scenario where we are eliminating our physical mobility, whilst facilitating the delivery of over salted processed fast food, procured from wholly Synthethic food production..... and you can see the precarious void some people are walking aimlessly towards?

    In the space of roughly 27,000 thousand years, roughly 8-900 generations, we have squandered the Homo Sapien's physical backbone in the space of maybe 3-4 generations? That is a seismic shift from your grandad's grandad having to milk a cow for milk, or plan a growth strategy for the planting and reaping of his vegetables.... to picking up your mobile and dialing an overpriced take away pizza whenever you fancy it? Given that is has taken over 26,900 years or say maybe 897 generations... from which each and every single one of us has evolved from and thus carries its' very life seed and future, i think it is only a matter of time before we witness the negative impact ,the internet has had.... in contributing to the blind relinquishment by humans of their life survival techniques, which took 897 of your grandads to develop. Attending the gym for half an hour a day will not save us. I am ignoring other transport advancements which we are informed is detrimental to our atmosphere whilst the real danger of us neglecting our physical capabilities harnessed for 27000 years is being completely ignored.

    You should not need a Scandanavian scientist to tell you to trust him in what he says.... because you are not intelligent enough to understand him..... to understand the concept and actual problem we are walking into, which will allow us to abandon all our futile efforts of Atmosphere manipulation, to actually start treating all the internal physical ailments which we have been ignoring as being a direct consequence of the growth and development in technologies which are being perceived as a benefit when ignoring the acceleration of change and the impact it is having. It is so obvious what is happening we cannot see it.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,656 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    I love the internet.

    Also, straight people are damn weird. Incel? LOL!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,480 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    The internet has been a positive influence in my life.

    I'd not a reader but I love reading educational stuff on the net, maybe it's just because it's more convenient compared to the old days when had to go to a library's, and I never liked the vibe in library's.

    As far as the OP I don't recognize any of this, but then I'm not on Instagram or Facebook. I log into my youtube account, subscribe to channels I'm interested, and my feed reflects that, so I don't see the default crap you see on youtube when you don't log in.



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