Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

tom23

Well who’s going to stop them? all the parties are signed up to Immigration is good. Holly Cairns heart is breaking.

Onky way we solve this is that claims are processed inside two weeks and you fail it’s sent home. We might look at cutting taxpayers funding to Immigration Ngo’s aswell as they have to much of a say in policy and have habit of taking the hand that feeds them to court.

There’s no other way. I’d like to see the hoteliers that are milking it take a haircut on their investments.

1800_Ladladlad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121828883#Comment_121828883

Cathy Newman, is that you ?

Stephen_Maturin

https://www.thejournal.ie/celbridge-girl-migrant-assault-hotel-garda-investigation-6312592-Feb2024/

So appears to be a physical assault they’re investigating as opposed to a sexual assault

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Goldengirl

" amid FALSE online rumour of sexual assault"

Fireworks thrown at the police..

Says it all.

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1800_Ladladlad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121829093#Comment_121829093

Iv emailed the Coimisiún na Meán to find out if Politicians are protected under parliamentary privilege if spreading miss/diss information, aswell as for outside of the dail. Tho the Coimisiún was set up for us plebs the out-right lying from this government needs to be held to account

Loafing Oaf

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121829344#Comment_121829344

by an “adult directly to known to them”.

sadly that sort of thing happens every day of the week across all sections of society...

1800_Ladladlad

A Brazilian "young man" Samuel Nunes Neto (23) who is homeless, has been charged with carrying out arson attacks at five large Cork city centre stores on Sunday.

<snip> No discussion of anything before the courts permitted - Beasty

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-41341790.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Furze99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121829443#Comment_121829443

Absolutely, transparency is key in democracy.

They should all be listed and made publicly available.

Furze99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121829328#Comment_121829328

Yep, back to a standing camp on the Curragh managed by the army. All new non national entrants bedded there and processed promptly. No appeals.

NoMoreDonegalTuesdays

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121828910#Comment_121828910

You're hysterical, pet.

We do have people who want the country to turn onto a third world kip. They were out shrieking like demented banshees in Celbridge last night.

Augme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121828883#Comment_121828883

It why they are all subltely championing Irexit as well and trying to bring in issues with EU immigrants to push that agenda too. They'd love nothing more than a irexit that blwould bring us closer to Britain. The first step of coming back under the "empire".

NoMoreDonegalTuesdays

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121829338#Comment_121829338

I'm not an award-winning investigative and broadcast journalist but thanks for the compliment.

NoMoreDonegalTuesdays

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121829869#Comment_121829869

They all support Israel's genocide as well. Genociding those pesky brown people with impunity is their wet dream.

They shriek hysterically about supposed "plantations" and "white genocide" yet when there's an actual example of settler colonists genociding the indigenous population of a place they actually support it.

You couldn't make these eejits up.

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_Kaiser_

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121829869#Comment_121829869

You really should get that "damn Brits" chip looked at. Just because people have concerns about the competence of our politicians and officials, and the direction that the country is heading in, doesn't automatically mean they want to re-join the "Empire" <insert Star Wars Imperial March theme here>

It's bemusing how the common response to uncomfortable realities is to throw out even more unrealistic theories.

_Kaiser_

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121829879#Comment_121829879

Palestine/Israel isn't our fight. I have sympathy for the victims on both sides but that's as far as my interest goes. Both are guilty of atrocities but both will need to come to an agreement in the end, and Ireland or the Irish will have precisely ZERO influence on what that is.

We have our own problems right here that we would be far better focusing on.

1800_Ladladlad

At a naturalisation ceremony the other day FF Minister of State at the Department of Justice James Browne gave his best wishes to the 1200 new citizens who became Irish over night, he said that "Ireland, as a nation that over centuries saw so many Irish people emigrate to find safety or work, the Irish people understand what it means to be a migrant, to seek a safe haven, to lay roots and to find a new home”....this has been debunked but they know what they are doing

NoMoreDonegalTuesdays

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121830380#Comment_121830380

Yeah the idea that the Irish have a long history of emigration is pure fake history, just like the famine itself never happened and the Holocaust never happened.

I mean WTAF? Is there where the extremists are at now? Denying Ireland has a centuries long history of emigration?! Good grief.

NoMoreDonegalTuesdays

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121830246#Comment_121830246

Sloganeering nonsense, the far right are obsessed with Dutch farmers and trans children in Florida and fan worship Elon Musk and Donald Trump.

The far right in this country support Israel's genocide. They support an actual genocide by a settler colonial people against the indigenous people. The far right in this country have enlisted the English far right and the dregs of Ulster Loyalism to help them set up their imported trojan horse in this country.

Perhaps they should go and live on the Shankill? Because they'd be happier there.

_Kaiser_

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121830704#Comment_121830704

I've no idea what on earth any of that has to do with anything. All I can suggest is that you ease off on twitter or wherever this manufactured outrage is coming from.

The histrionics are wasted on me. I'm not 12. I know that we live in a country that is generally so docile as to be asleep - hence why we've allowed ourselves to be led into this situation. The idea that there's "far right" boogeymen lurking under the bed or around every corner pulling the strings is just frankly laughable! Even a cursory look back over our history of the last 20 years would show how false that notion is.

This isn't America which is tearing itself apart over this culture war identity politics nonsense (and that's what it is - manufactured nonsense from a society on the edge of collapse it seems). I really wish people would stop trying to import or paste their problems into our society where it absolutely has no place.

Meanwhile in the real world of Ireland, we are facing real problems as a result of this misadventure. Problems which we will struggle with for decades and the outcome of which is already clear to see in those countries who are further down this track.

NoMoreDonegalTuesdays

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121830872#Comment_121830872

The whole anti-immigrant thing is an imported culture war tactic from American Twitter.

The anti-immigrant demonstrations are backed by the English far right, the American far right and the dregs of Ulster Loyalism.

We don't need this imported racist bullshit in this country.

ShamNNspace

@NoMoreDonegalTuesdays Can some of you guys get this into yere collective heads.. The anti-immigrant cohort in this country is very small, it's miniscule, however those in favour of a pragmatic sensible immigration regime includes a large cohort of society which recent polls have Bourne out.. What this country needs is a proper grown up conversation and debate on how we handle immigration going forward in the next 50 years or so, what are the goals? and what are the pluses and minuses for the populace and those not yet born, you know like adults without the constant use of the phrase "anti-immigrant" and "far right" shouted nonsensically at anyone who has the least misgivings about the present immigration regime,over a thousand in tents on the streets and more on their way, thousands cooped up in hotels and guesthouses, money thrown at the problem with abandon like a drunken sailor on leave, I hope the money lasts cos I damn sure know on whose doormat the bill will fall when the reckoning comes like it always does ... it's tiresome and a dishonest use of words and phrases to muddy the waters lest a proper conversation be had , because at the moment empty informationless vacuums are being created and those vacuums are being filled by the extremes.. It's not a serious way to run a country

BlueSkyDreams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121830990#Comment_121830990

It is very true that govt dialogue with the population at large has been lacking and a long term plan is needed.

That plan will include long term asylum support. There is no dount about that.

If people can see how the plan will work, how accomodation and services will be provided to IPAs, without negativley impacting existing services, we would all be in a better place.

The plan was needed 2 years ago. Its long overdue, but hopefully it isnt far away now and when it is released, O'Gorman can start to address peoples concerns.

dalyboy

Another day goes by and still no “plan” from Rodders O Gorman. He announced that this magic bean plan would be detailed for the public last week. Crickets since.

We have past the 2 year mark of the Ukrainian war and at least 18 months into the flood gates open to every country in the world fiasco.

What will this plan involve ?

Where will the 1000 + tent dwellers in Dublin be moved to ?

Will there be a tightening of security of our borders be applied to both air & sea to reduce the abandoned passport crowd ?

Will there be an active deportation system be installed to remove non-Irish criminals from our shores ? (To destination who cares)

dalyboy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121829443#Comment_121829443

Absolutely nail on the head.

Surely the people paying these IPA accommodation costs (The Irish tax payer) have an absolute right to know who is benefiting from this guaranteed magic money business.

Every penny should be accounted for , every hotel , B&B , apart hotel , Mary & joes spare bedroom etc etc. Are we even getting to see these accounts ?

In regards to the big hotels creaming in the cash … what’s their connection to the politicians that are promoting this madness? I’m including non-government politicians here too. Why are they all going against their voters wishes ?

Mysterious 🥴🫣😆

Patrick2010

Bizarre the public accounts committee are not involved in checking such vast amounts of public money

_Kaiser_

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121831083#Comment_121831083

Sure as we've seen over the last few weeks and months, the Government can't even keep a rein on RTE and how it spends/wastes public money, never mind this latest free for all.

I think this latest money pit is a rerun of the Covid response. Vast amounts of public money thrown away and decisions made that'll never be fully accounted for.

patnor1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121829443#Comment_121829443

Ireland political elite is landlord class. There will never be enough of houses for citizens not to mention all who come here for milk and honey welfare. Rents are going sky high exactly by design so our ruling landlords class can profit out of people misery.