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Has anyone heard a real live (or dead) Banshee?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    I was reading recently that they are bringing wolves back in the wild in parts of Ireland...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    I know a woman from Carbury (very paranormal place in Kildare) who said she was driving home from work and she hit a woman that looked like a banshee. Fearing the worst, she got out to look and couldn't find a body anywhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    I say that re few places being really dark advisedly! I am offshore and no street lighting and very few houses... One night I wandered outside with the dog and it was when I got a way up the drive that I realised I could see nothing. I mean NOTHING. Oh way over the water a house light, but around me a dark so deep it was disorienting. NOTHINGNESS... I knew there was a stream alongside the path so once my feet came to the bank I was able to creep back to the house. Sheer blind blackness How do blind folk manage..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,598 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    One night, many years ago, I heard some ear piercing screams coming from a field near the home house. It actually sounded really scary but I was too curious so I went down with a torch for a look. I found 2 large badgers locked together in a vicious fight. Both had their teeth and claws dug into each other. I ran away when I saw them. I never forgot that sound.

    Nobody died.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,009 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    I've read that too but I'd say there will be a zero chance of it actually happening. There's no way farmers for one wouldn't put up resistance. Then plenty of people who live in the countryside will have objections as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,520 ✭✭✭Sgt Hartman


    I've read up on plenty of Banshee (Bean Sídhe or woman of the fairy mounds) lore over the years and I find the origins and the stories fascinating. Not only do many prominent Irish families have their own banshees but there are also high ranking banshees associated with certain areas, especially in Munster.

    Aoibheal who is also revered in county Clare is a Banshee who has her domain at Craglea on the shores on Lough Derg. She was said to have visited Brian Ború at his fort before he headed off to the Battle of Clontarf and she fortold his death. She is rivals with Áine of Knockainey in Co.Limerick (Cnoc Áine in Co.Limerick) and Cliodhna of Carrigcleena (Cliodhna's Rock in Co.Cork) There's also the shrieking demon Aoife, who was the jealous wife of Lir who turned his children into swans. There's the war goddess Morrigan (Mór Ríogan meaning Great Queen) who has her domain at Owynagcat in Cruachan in Co.Roscommon. One of her aspect is known as Badb (or "Bow" as she's known as in the South East) She appears as a carrion crow on battlefields, and when she landed on Cúchullain's shoulder as he was tied to the pillar of Cnocnafearmór in Co.Dundalk in order to keep himself upright, then and only then did Cúchullain's enemies know that he was dead.

    Anyway I hope that's enough banshee lore for ye 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,424 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Aren't some of those just members of the Tuatha de Dannan, I suppose Banshees are also remnants of them (like The Children of the Forest in Game of Thrones).

    I'd be wary of families claiming Banshees, as far as I can see it comes down to people trying to attach their families to Irish mythology (and therefore the book of invasions) for legitimacy reasons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,520 ✭✭✭Sgt Hartman


    Every one of them are members of the Tuatha Dé Dannan, who retreated into the hills and mounds after their defeat by the Milesians (Supposedly the first Celts to arrive in Ireland). The clue is in the name Bean Sídhe (Woman of the fairy mounds) 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭spakman


    Maybe that's what I heard.

    I was out the back of the house on a very dark, still night. I was having a sneaky smoke when I was too young to be at that sort of thing.

    Then this high pitch animal roar (not like a woman or baby as mentioned before) came from over the wall where there was a wood.

    Thats when i understood the saying "it made my blood run cold".

    I threw the fag away and sprinted back inside.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Count Dracula


    I can only imagine that the notion alludes to the mourning cries of women who may have lost loved ones or endured the torture of a still born baby. Can you imagine what a childbirth would have sounded like in a Crannog or similar dwelling a few 1000 years ago? There were no epidurals or Caesarian sections to facilitate any complications either? Maternal mortality during childbirth was rampant, it was one of the biggest killers of young women up until the start of the 20th century. Such sudden and traumatic death could easily have led to hysterical outcries of pained emotion. Can you imagine the sadness an elderly grandmother might have felt witnessing the death of her daughter or granddaughter during childbirth?

    Foxes fighting at night sound harrowing.

    The intolerable moans and screeches of some of my lairs' more frustrated elderly vamps can indicate that it is feeding time. Female vamps can be unsufferable in the late summer evenings, especially if they have gone without for a few nights in succession. Hungry Vampires are completely impetuous and their hunger can manifest in all kinds of high decible croaks, screams and random growling. The long nights of winter are a god send for the serenity of vampire purgatorial existence. It is the small things in life that matter the most. Subtle niceties like feeding on fresh viril virgins during a cold long dark winter night is what gets us through the long fallow summers.

    Stay safe mortals.



  • Registered Users Posts: 34 FrankLeeSpeaking


    No. But my grandmother did in rural Laois. She and my great aunt also saw the Sidhe and were adamant the fairies were real. While it is easy to slag them off, they were both very successful and intelligent women. One ran a chain of successful children's clothes shops in the midlands and the other was an accountant and was the chairperson of an astomomy club.

    I believe them, and I believe the Sidhe and Banshees are real. Rural Ireland was almost like another reality before the 1960s and people's sensitivity and engagement with the natural would be impossible for us to comprehend in this era.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    There was shall we say an awareness, a dimension that we have largely lost.

    20 years ago when I was having modernisation work done on an old cottage in wildest Leitrim, one of the older men doing part of the work had seen his gravestone in the middle of the road when he was driving one night. It was when he was young and a heavy drinker and his father told him it was a warning from the fairies. He never drank again.

    I have visited places that had a .....dimension to them, before I knew their history. A large circle of uncultivated land amid a big field, that was very... atmospheric. No one local would touch it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,874 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Little knowledge of wildlife and a fertile imagination.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


     “There are more things in heaven and earth , than are dreamt of in your philosophy”

    Many are sensitive to/aware of more things than others. Some places have characters formed by what has gone before



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭sonofenoch



    Yeah we have a fox in the back gardens.......the screams of it in the dark of night could be startling if you didn't actually know there were foxes about, I'd describe it more human like than any other animal ....it's like a dog bark but in the form of a high pitched human scream


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Plus one on the fox. They can sound very human at times. No I never saw or heard a Beansidhe myself but a few older people I know have said they have.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,874 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Well, I live where a lot of people have died, men women and children, some have had horrible deaths, I've found dead bodies washed up on the shore, I live near graveyards, there's one 50 metres from my house yet none of us see or hear banshees, spirits, ghosts, easter bunnies, fairies, goblins or ghouls.

    Plenty of foxes, badgers, owls, herons, egrets & other wildlife that make scary & weird noises though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,223 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Much the same here. Beside an abandoned famine graveyard and an area where some of the 'disappeared' lay undiscovered for decades where the sound of wildlife echoes in the night air. Banshees etc were born of vivid imaginations, ignorance, yarn spinning and spoofing that some were more in tune with a wider spirit world than others.

    The mating cry of a fox, or the spooky squawk of a heron in flight, combined with a low mist drifting over the bog at twilight is nothing more than nature.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Probably. But is it nothing more? Country people are well aware of Fox and other cries but some still maintain they have heard and even seen something.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,545 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    I've a house on an offshore island. When it's stormy, you'll definitely hear banshees there.






    Or, more probably, wind going through the roof of the barn outside making a screeching noise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,874 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    I believe there's a non-superstitious explanation for every one of them. I also believe there's a fair bit of spoofing going on, ghosts, banshees, moving statues etc...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,223 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Nothing more. Think about those claiming to have heard something. The couple I knew who said they heard something knew rightly they didn't. One spun yarns and the other wouldn't have known a heron or fox call from a cow mooing. Country people don't have extra perception. Country areas are not far distant mystical lands just because there are no street lights. Older people aren't more in tune with mystic spirits. I was brought up on sagas about banshees, fairies and spirits; with so called family history including then all - total fairy tales.



  • Registered Users Posts: 34 FrankLeeSpeaking


    People who live all their lives in the coutryside and surrounded by wildlife have no knowledge of it???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,223 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Surprisingly yes. I live in the countryside and old men born and bred to it know little or nothing about the wildlife. Farm animals, growing, seeding, harvesting sure but couldn't name a Bird correctly or recognise a call.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,665 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Yes, it is surprising but the vast majority have no interest. I know a guy who goes hiking on to the mountains around Ireland most weekends and he can’t tell the difference between blackthorn and white thorn. WTF is he doing on the mountains. Most farmers can’t identify bird types that they have been looking at for decades.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,874 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    You could be right with that assertion if it's your experience. I remember years ago in the midlands there were reports of a seal in the river. I informed them it was an otter. Another time I asked a farmer friend if he had pine martins on the land and he told me "they roost on the grass" at night, I also introduced him to bats living on his land. He'd never seen them before!!



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,439 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    Cats. Romancing each other.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,992 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Find it strange in the 21st century that many adults can't distinguish folklore from fact.

    Do some of them also think Finn MacCool built the Giants Causeway?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,223 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    That type of thing is constant. The old woman down a lane here who hears the cuckoo every February, when it's a woodpigeon. Farmers who can't tell a hare from a rabbit or a raven from a jackdaw. These are the reliable sources for hearing banshees? Laughable. It all stems from tales to pass a long otherwise boring night by the fire.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,515 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Yes, many farmers are surprisingly ignorant of it. It's like they are in a battle against nature rather than working with it. Wild animals are seen as vectors of disease and raptors as threats to livestock hence the widespread poisonings and shooting. Trees and hedgerows are nuisances to the progressive ranch farmer.

    I've noticed that town bred eastern europeans having been introduced to it at an early age, hiking/camping/foraging etc have more knowledge of the outdoors than your average irish farmer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,874 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Myself and my siblings were reared with a strong knowledge of nature, camping & backwood cooking/skills. I'm sometimes shocked at my rural friends lack of interest & knowledge when it comes to nature. They're not stupid, just not interested. One told me that Pine Martins attack people and suck their blood out. He's a well educated guy who grew up on a farm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,532 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    I remember hearing that as a child and was convinced I heard a banshee, my parents had a great laugh at that one! 2 tom cats fighting is another ear- curdling sound.



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