How to deal with problematic neighbors dog?

theguzman

I own a house and recently my tenants left, house is now empty and I'm struggling to find good quality suitable tenants and recently I have started spending more time in the house myself. I'm doing small renovations and am planning to either Airbnb it or go for the Ukrainians money (Guaranteed) if I don't find some professional with ability to pay the market rent like before. I have noticed the previous tenants next door have left and been replaced by less than desirable, anyway the new tenants have brought with them a dog and not just any dog but a pitbull, a literal killing machine. They are a couple in their early twenties with a baby and toddler, her partner portrays himself as a toughman and so of course they got a pitbull. The dog barks occasionally but I wouldn't say the barking is problematic, neither of the couple seem to work as I have observed no real schedule by them.

I don't know what to do about this situation? I can contact their landlord my neighbour but unsure if she will do anything? I really do not want this dog next door to me over the danger to our safety. Sometimes my partner has her niece and nephew with her and when we stay in the house they are with us due to extra rooms for them. They are small kiddies and I'd dread of anything happening to them. Equally it is now a risk for me to rent to a family also due to the risk from one of these dogs. If that dog jumped the fence and mauled a child in my place I could probably get sued and destroyed, similarly it poses a threat to my potential summer airbnb plans for the property. Ideally I'd like my neighbor to evict them or else make them get rid of the dog as most likely they are breaching their lease with such a dog, they don't look like the most reasonable characters unfortunately.

Grolschevik

This has to be a wind-up, on multiple levels.

You don't get to try to get someone evicted just because you don't like their dog or what this dog might do. If you think it might jump the fence, then make the fence higher. Jesus.

theguzman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120097111#Comment_120097111

I'm very serious, the young boy in Wexford was lucky to be alive. I don't want one of those animals next to me. As far as I am concerned it is an unnecessary risk to to my own and anyone on my properties personal safety. I'd rather have got rid of that dog than have a situation like this down in county Wexford recently. All pitbulls should be got rid of they are not pets and not suitable for anything.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/brave-boy-home-hospital-after-28922193

You could sell your house?

You have no say into what kind of dog your neighbour has, and its none of your business. It is is not illegal to own bull breeds in this country.

As an aside, I work from home 4 days a week, I wonder do my neighbours think I'm no longer in employment.

Buddy Bubs

I personally don't understand why people get dogs like that instead of a labrador or a collie or a beagle apart from looking hard, they are the dog of choice for undesirables.

However, that said, there's no law against owning them once they adhere to muzzling them in public. Unfortunately they do have a right to own one.

xhomelezz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058279278/how-to-deal-with-problematic-neighbors-dog

How the dog is problematic ?

As someone above says, this is just a wind up thread.

elperello

Look up the regulations for restricted breeds.

If you observe any of them being broken contact local authority dog warden.

89897

I swear, some people get more and more entitled as time goes on! That car out the front of your house is a literal killing machine, have that removed too while you're at it!

JohnnyChimpo

You can make a garden fence up to 2m high per regulations. If they can scale that then your nephew never stood a chance anyway

newmember2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120097523#Comment_120097523

Why do you say that...are you all wound-up?? Like wtf...anyone with small kids around, living beside a pitbull would have a right to be nervous about it.

xhomelezz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120097881#Comment_120097881

I see the panic is kicking in...

Personally I wouldn't like to be living beside OP.

After reading some threads here, I'm sooo happy my next neighbor is about 1 km away..

Apiarist

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120097168#Comment_120097168

Exactly, insecure people get "dangerous" breeds to make themselves look "tough". They get a dog not to be a pet, but to be a potential weapon. Unfortunately, such people may also foster undesirable aggressive behaviour in their dogs.

To the OP, I can only advise to sell the house if being a landlord is too stressful.

homer911

It would not do any harm to confer with the local authority dog warden. At least to enquire if they have a dog license or are banned from owning such dogs

endofrainbow

Build a 2m wall

Who exactly is problematic?

The neighbour, or the dog?

And what problems are they causing?

Dial Hard

Neither, as far as I can see, but I had the same thought myself about the thread title.

OP, pit bulls are not "literal killing machines" and most Irish people can't even identify them properly. Your neighbour could well have a Staffie, and they were bred for herding, not fighting.

Also, the boy in Wexford was attacked by a Presa Canario, not a pit bull. It might be no harm to educate yourself on dog breeds before you go throwing your weight around with neighbours you don't even know.

Former Former Former

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120097881#Comment_120097881

You're dead right to be concerned about it. I don't know if you could be held liable for someone else's dog, but unfortunately having one next door - and more importantly, the complete scumbag who owns it - has probably knocked a fair chunk off the value of the house.

Even more unfortunately, there isn't anything you can do about it. The best you can hope for is that they're in breach of their tenancy and that their landlord takes action.

xhomelezz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120098241#Comment_120098241

Haha, you are already building a fairytale around OP's opening.

Ridiculous

crossman47

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120098264#Comment_120098264

It is not a bit ridiculous. If someone with one of those aggresive breeds moved in next to me, my life would be a complete misery. I would be constantly looking out for it whenever I went out the door, front or back. The law should be much stronger and nobody should be allowed own any of these brutes.

herbalplants

Nothing happened. Did the dog growl at you?

So really, none of your concern.

I used to own a newfoundland and some gave me odd looks when truly dog lovers know they are teddy bears.

dashoonage

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120098460#Comment_120098460

if they had an aggressive Jack Russel it would be ok though ?

witchgirl26

Oh man I really hoped this is a wind up.

Look OP most dogs are not killing machines unless they are trained to be. And like someone else said, there aren't that many pit bulls in Ireland so more likely to be a staffie. These are usually loving and gentle dogs. My friend had 2 for years & they wouldn't hurt a fly (more likely to be scared of it to be honest!). You're jumping to an awful lot of conclusions without having actually interacted with the neighbours or the dog itself. You mentioned it barked a little - all dogs will do that. And that they don't seem to have a schedule - well if they have a new baby then schedule is not going to be a normal thing & could very easily be a case of she's on maternity leave & he's working from home to help.

You have not detailed one single fact that would make these a problem set of neighbours for anyone who moves into your property. You've opinions on them but that's it - no actual facts. And without facts, its very unlikely their landlord is going to evict them (plus they legally can't until April anyway).

Manion

I think we're all missing the point here, has the OP requested change of use permission to convert the property to use for short term lets on AirBnB?

XsApollo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120098549#Comment_120098549

Try pulling a Jack Russell off somebody and then try pulling a bull breed off somebody, I’m sure you know the difference.

To the OP.

the dog should be muzzled and on a short leash when in public,

the owners should have a license and the dog chipped.

if you see the dog roaming outside, then call your local dog warden.

If the dog is kept inside and rules are being followed then nothing you can do.

Dial Hard

I can't get over the number of Helen Lovejoys in this thread. Imagine living your life in such fear of everything that *might* happen to you. You'd never leave the house.

Where you're far more likely to suffer a serious accident than ever be attacked by a dog on the street, btw...

RosieJoe

God love your neighbours having to deal with you! A problematic dog? One that barks occasionally like most dogs, and one that is socialised with kids that you think is going to scale your fence to attack kids that might be in your back garden!

They on the other hand have to put up with some snob looking down their nose at them, questioning their employment status, commenting on their supposed toughman portrait of themselves, jumping to conclusions based on negative stereotypes the Hyacinth Bucket would be proud of.

crossman47

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120098549#Comment_120098549

I'd be unhappy but theres one hell of a difference.

xhomelezz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120098460#Comment_120098460

my life would be a complete misery

I think you've already reached that point.

Manion

Why do this threads tend to descent to the level of "would you rather kill your father or sleep with your mother"?. Why is being mauled be a Jack Russel or being mauled by a Pitbull the only two options? The op is engaging in some kind of twisted fantasy where they believe themselves liable in the event that something happens to justify manufacturing a situation to impinge upon the enjoyment of life of people who actually live in the community as if being an absentee landlord sweating an asset gives them authority over how others live. The impact on your yields isn't a social crisis.

Flinty997

OP On the few times you have kids over just check the dog isn't out. Otherwise its not your problem.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120098735#Comment_120098735

Guess you''ve never bought insurance for anything.

crossman47

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120098836#Comment_120098836

Indeed I haven't. I'm quite happy at the moment. My only worry comes when I'm walking in my local park and a dog comes bounding up to me. The owner is quick to say "Hes only being friendly". How does he know that and how am i supposed to know it? Many (not all) dog owners are completely blind to others fear of dogs.

Manion

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120098990#Comment_120098990

The best thing for dogs off lead in public spaces is your own pitbull. I have two and whenever out walking people seem to always relead and call back their friendly dogs. If you where to adopt Carmine here: https://www.dogstrust.ie/rehoming/dogs/dog/filters/~~giant~~~~n~/7130350/carmine I guarantee your days of random dogs rushing up to you would be over. You're welcome.

Former Former Former

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120098264#Comment_120098264

Having a toerag with a dangerous dog next door absolutely makes a house less desirable and therefore less valuable.

That's just how it is.

Manion

Hold on, how is the neighbour suddenly a toerag? Just because the curtain twitchers cannot figure out their comings and goings and they are young? They've done nothing to the OP and the dog doesn't even bark.

xhomelezz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120099301#Comment_120099301

What are you talking about? OP knows fook all about his neighbours and their dog, so how did you manage to come to this?

Former Former Former

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120099692#Comment_120099692

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120099698#Comment_120099698

Well, the OP (the only person who has actually encountered these people) says:

less than desirable and her partner portrays himself as a toughman

so there's that, and they a) have a pitbull and b) have a pitbull in the same house as toddler and a baby

Yeah, I'm happy to say they're not the sort of people you want to live beside. Or more precisely, not the sort of people I want to live beside, given my aversion to toe-rags with dangerous dogs.

Manion

Well where else would the toddler and baby live? They're too young to live outside. You've not thought this one through. Honestly the OP is talking about turning the property into a modern day flop house with people coming day and night with no regard for the neighbors or community and we're meant care more about their yields than another persons right to enjoy the privacy of their own home in piece. The gall of some people is unreal.

xhomelezz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120099889#Comment_120099889

OP didn't encounter his neighbours as far as I can read. It looks like OP is more of this kind of business..

And for your a) and b) that's non of your business, nor is OP's.

As other posters suggested, if dog will be wandering lose on the street, call the warden. If dog is being kept secure around the property no issue whatsoever there.

And so far OP is just being nosey IMO

On another forum somewhere a young man or woman is seeking advice about the oddball that's been pottering around next door recently.

Your neighbour (the landlord) is quite obviously happy with their credentials as tenants.

YipeeDee

All you can do is build up the wall to the maximum height allowed and I’d also put wire with a bend back on top so if the dog does try to jump it, it’ll fall back on itself. Once you’ve made every effort to ensure the dangerous dog can’t get on to your property, there’s little else you can do.

Oops!

I recon the OP is Bill Badbody and he's after outing himself..... Live... laugh... Lease.