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Help me identify this bird

  • 08-01-2023 7:29pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭


    Anyone have any idea what this bird is, it was taken last summer in North Galway?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,428 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Looks like a young buzzard



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭indy_man


    There are some buzzards in the area according to the bio diversity map.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭Scotty #


    Buzzard. They regularly feed on the ground on earth worms and frogs are one of their favourites.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 irishguy1012


    Any idea what this bird is please? Spotted in Botanic Gardens today.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Female blackcap.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,071 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    Am I bonkers or could I have heard a corncrake on the Eastern side of Three Rock, Dublin?

    I heard the distinctive "crakk-crakk" and immediately googled it for similar sounds and it was exactly as it was online. No sighting, just the call. The area is scrub surrounded by pasture.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭Scotty #


    There's been a handfull of reports so far this year from Tory Island and Inishbofin but none in Dublin (or anywhere else 😔). That's not to say it's not a corncrake, but it would be most unusual.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Could be Red Grouse - google a call recording to see??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,071 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    I had a listen, it's not the same at all, but I can see why you thought of it.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,890 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i was wondering whether it could even have potentially been a frog croaking, but it's too late for that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,210 ✭✭✭gzoladz


    Not impossible, it could have been on migration at this time of the year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,071 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    We do have frogs around here, but it wasn't the call of a frog.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭Scotty #




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,071 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    Actually - you know what, on hearing that audio it must have been a pheasant as we do have them around here. Disapointing that it wasn't an interloping corn-crake, but we can discount it now!



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Heard this bird for the first time two days ago. North Strand area of Dublin.

    Can't find anything like it in native birds. Didn't catch sight of it at all.

    Apologies for portrait format of video, big gap between calls and random shots of my bathroom.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/LI9uuKAwiyU



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,235 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I'd have said it is a wren but the pitch sounds slightly off.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    The general sound of it is very like a wren, but 'the words in the wrong order', so to speak. :)

    Could it be another bird imitating?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,084 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Wild guess - starling?

    Not your ornery onager



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    I will try see can I get a look at it tomorrow morning.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,890 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i have been recommended - but never tried - the merlin bird identification app from cornell, which might help.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,890 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i just tried it on the merlin app, and it seems fairly confident it's a wren. one of the sample recordings seems a close match to my ears.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    What a useful app.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Sorry I don't have a pic, but I was just watching the two buzzards that live close by circling round my garden and adjacent areas when a large bird, very similar to a buzzard with the 'square' ended wings flew over, it didn't have the under wing markings of the buzzard and it was very fast, flying in a straight line rather than circling like the buzzards. It was bigger than a buzzard, with a similar tail, straight rather than spread. I am sure it was a raptor of some sort (ie, it wasn't a crow or similar) but have no idea what it might have been. North Waterford near the Comeraghs. Any ideas?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,890 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Not a kite? It would have a forked tail and the most common raptor bigger than a buzzard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Thank you for that, I did not see it for very long, it was flying very fast, but I don't think I saw a forked tail, and it was not that far away and I did not see the underwing markings, though the buzzard markings were very clear to see. I would like to think it might have been a golden eagle but I realise that is extremely unlikely, but the shape is right and the fact that it looked plain dark underneath, which I gather is what they look like.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,716 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    A Golden Eagle wingspan is 6 - 7.5 feet. Buzzard in 3.5 - 4.5 feet. The difference would be immediately noticeable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Well that was the most noticeable thing, I had been watching the buzzards and they were still circling round, then the size of the other bird was very striking.

    Two of us saw it and said more or less simultaneously 'that's not a buzzard!'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭Scotty #




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Its a possibility, though the wing ends were not fringed like a raven's, I am not familiar with ravens particularly but if they fly like crows then no, it had a different flight style. It was plain dark but on the whole I would have said it was more dark brownish than black. Thanks!



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    It was never a juvenile white-tailed sea eagle, no? In a similar situation that you describe, I saw one flying towards me at a midlands lake last year, and immediately thought "whoa... that's not a buzzard!"

    This one flew so close that I clearly saw a wing tag, and although it was quite buzzard-like, it was a lot bigger! The juveniles are brown.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Thanks for that, its gone a bit too long since I saw it to be sure, though since then my daughter, who saw it, said she thought she saw it again not far away. I'll keep a look out, I may be lucky again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,573 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    wonder how accurate the merlin bird id app is ?

    record so far is 11 birds in one recording, they do sound distinctively different



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,979 ✭✭✭Eddie B


    It's accurate-ish. Gives off a lot of hits of rare birds, and I know for sure it identified my dogs wheezing (pulling on the lead) as mallard ducks lol



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭Speedsie
    ¡arriba, arriba! ¡andale, andale!


    I think it's quite accurate.... Except it keeps identifying a corncrake in my area.

    I can only wish I have a corncrake here in West Dublin/North Kildare.... What it actually it's hearing is a pheasant.

    But everything else I've confirmed visually.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,716 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    I found it to be absolutely useless, with a lot of very wrong suggestions.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,234 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Anyone know what this is, at my sister's bath? Is it a woodpecker of some kind?

    Thanks in advance!



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,235 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    A Jay (part of the crow family)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,234 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Wow, would never have thought it was a corvid. Have never seen one before.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,890 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    They're typically a woodland bird. Any woods near her?



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,235 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,234 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    That much I did know! I've never seen a Jay before. Surrounded by magpies, rooks and hooded crows here.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,235 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Yeah, I haven't seen a Jay in quite some time - they like their privacy from people



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,234 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    She's in the depths of the Strawberry Beds, so plenty of trees but the nearest thing to actual woods would be the Phoenix Park and she's quite a bit away from there. Although not as the crow jay flies, I guess.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,890 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Not far from luttrellstown castle maybe?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,855 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    I have only seen Jays a couple of times and both recently. A couple in Glendalough and one at the N11 at UCD. Both near decent enough native woodland. Beautiful birds.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,890 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i've seen them in the PP on several occasions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,979 ✭✭✭Eddie B


    A lot of them around me here in Offaly. See and hear them regularly



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