The Masters 2023 BBC, Eurosport 8th - 15th January

farmingquestion · 12-01-2023 12:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120095492#Comment_120095492

I find it extremely weird too. He could be judging and commenting on players he could end up playing.

And it's also weird to hear him saying things like they should have played it this way or that when he makes these mistakes himself.

The Nal · 12-01-2023 1:06pm

Waiting for Ronnie vs Williams.....

12-01-2023 2:01pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120097997#Comment_120097997

Of course he makes mistakes? Do commentators and pundits need to have a perfect record or something? 😅

Being able to watch a game and point out where a mistake was made is what informative commentary is about. It would be ridiculous to think that you can’t explain an error made unless you have a 147 break on every match you play😂

As for commentating matches featuring players you might compete against that’s a non issue really too? It’s not like he’s sitting and calling them useless or whatever he’s objectively discussing their high’s and low’s in that match or their overall record. You can’t just expect that retired and out of competition players will always be available to do the comms and I personally like having pro players involved as they obviously have a much keener insight to the whole experience than non players.

Fact is me or you might understand the game very well but we certainly haven’t a clue about how it feels to be at the big table playing an opponent that may be intimidating and how that could impact a player. They can offer the insight only players can and I think it’s very valuable. It would be worthless if they skirted around calling a judgment error or blatant screw up out just because they make them also.

everyone makes mistakes and no one’s above having them talked about.

farmingquestion · 12-01-2023 2:20pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120098292#Comment_120098292

Of course everyone makes mistakes or misjudges something.

The point is he can go on about "that was careless, there was so much room for error there" yet he'll go and do the same thing. I find that aspect weird. I dunno, I just find it weird...going around judging others while you do the same things they do...

kirk. · 12-01-2023 2:35pm

Ronnie won't be retiring anyhow .

He wants to break every record now

12-01-2023 3:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120098364#Comment_120098364

Again I wouldn’t see anything abnormal about it tbh it’s a game of luck as much as skill sometimes.

Arthur Daley · 12-01-2023 5:06pm

Turning into a right battle now at 4-4. Willo with the momentum

sligeach · 12-01-2023 5:25pm

Ronnie had the better luck in that crucial frame.

Arthur Daley · 12-01-2023 5:29pm

That is a lovely clearance for 5-4. Thought he missed the black for a second

sligeach · 12-01-2023 5:31pm

Wow. Williams won that frame, I thought O'Sullivan had that in the bag.

sligeach · 12-01-2023 5:36pm

Obnoxious Ronnie supporters in the crowd as always.

12-01-2023 5:42pm

I'm heading to this tomorrow night. Should be a bit of craic.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120099306#Comment_120099306

I'll shout something out so you'll know it's me

Genghis · 12-01-2023 5:55pm

Great match this. My two favorite players. Chance for Ronnie in the last frame goes a-begging. Willo for the win from here I'd feel.

sligeach · 12-01-2023 5:58pm

I didn't agree with Mark going into the pack, and it's messed up. He had a loose red.

Arthur Daley · 12-01-2023 5:59pm

One handed great shot. Had to get red away from there

12-01-2023 6:00pm

Excuse my ignorance but why did he hit that one handed?

Genghis · 12-01-2023 6:01pm

Mark unimpressed with the commentators. Shuts DT up for 45 seconds anyway ;)

sligeach · 12-01-2023 6:02pm

Well that was worth waiting for from Williams. It's his match to win now.

sligeach · 12-01-2023 6:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120099342#Comment_120099342

You can shout away. It won't be for O'Sullivan. 😁

Arthur Daley · 12-01-2023 6:08pm

Great win for Mark. From where he was.

He's that good with a cue he can often play a shot with one hand.

Genghis · 12-01-2023 6:10pm

The BBC team need some new exclamations.

What a shot

What a match

What a performance

What a game

What an afternoon

sligeach · 12-01-2023 6:12pm

Well done Williams. He showed good composure.

Snake Plisken · 12-01-2023 6:17pm

Fantastic match from both players. Hope Williams goes on and wins the tournament now.

Strumms · 12-01-2023 6:35pm

Bit of a classic, had everything. Very enjoyable.

fückwit Ronnie fans are some doses though. Not fair at all on him but I thought Mark dealt with it in a composed fashion. Olivier was getting rightfully pîssed off towards the end but Mark’s composure never looked anything other then steadfast…enough pressure having to contend with playing Ronnie and being 0-3 down but down 3 or 4 seconds on your break-off shot and morons still yelling out, not only breaking but at various intervals throughout the 11 frames.

12-01-2023 7:09pm

Ah they really do my head in haha. Look all for supporting your favourite player but constantly as you said shouting GWOOON RONNEH everytime he either does something or someone’s leaving the table from a miss etc is just cringe.

I noticed the referee becomes a lot more vocal telling people to “settle down” and “turn that off” during O’Sullivan matches. Not his fault obviously I’m sure it does his head in a bit also.

Arthur Daley · 12-01-2023 9:02pm

Lisowski started with a measured break, but the way these two play this could develop into a bit of a shootout of power snooker.

HeidiHeidi · 12-01-2023 10:00pm

Lisowski-Vafaei is shaping up to be a right ding dong battle!

I thought it was going to be a whitewash after the first 2 frames, but Vafaei had got right back in it.

Lots of nervy shots from both, but then they get into their stride and there's some lovely snooker being played.

Having said that, what was Vafaei thinking taking on that plant to the middle???

AllForIt · 12-01-2023 10:34pm

Vafael pushing the boat out too much tonight, seems to be a bit hyped up.

DJIMI TRARORE · 12-01-2023 10:42pm

Some of the worst shot ever played in snooker at the start of F9

HeidiHeidi · 12-01-2023 11:01pm

Someone on here might put me out of my misery, that gambling aware ad on ES has been annoying me for ages....

Who are the two talking heads on it that are not Ruby Walsh and Stephanie Meadow???

gormdubhgorm · 12-01-2023 11:05pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120099415#Comment_120099415

Williams thinks if he hits some shots like that one handed it helps him to get a better angle/feel. I don't understand it myself. No one else does it before/since.

Tom Mann Centuria · 12-01-2023 11:08pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120100813#Comment_120100813

Paddy Power and Matt Chapman.

12-01-2023 11:17pm

Ah feel bad for Vahei he played well. Had plenty of chances though.

gormdubhgorm · 12-01-2023 11:18pm

Williams will be well able for Lisowski I think.

HeidiHeidi · 12-01-2023 11:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120100899#Comment_120100899

The same, I thought he might sneak it. But I'm delighted to see Lisowski through, his form seems to be improving all the time.

Vafaei's head must have been all over the shop, only getting into the tournament at the very last minute,

AllForIt · 12-01-2023 11:23pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120100698#Comment_120100698

Turned a bit amateurish there for a while due to Vafaei loosing his composure. Think he could do with a bit of that sports psychology treatment.

HeidiHeidi · 12-01-2023 11:50pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120100858#Comment_120100858

Thank you!!

13-01-2023 1:33am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120099444#Comment_120099444

I've got a plan. At 8:30pm tomorrow night, the next time there is a good shot and people are clapping or cheering, I will shout "Gwan Ronnie!". This is all your fault.

If I don't chicken out or forget

AllForIt · 13-01-2023 3:19am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120100840#Comment_120100840

Watched the match on BBC Snooker Extra just now.

Tbh I don't get why he played it like that. He may have seen the line right but I think he missed because the cue wasn't stable. He could have used his bridge hand and bent over slightly to keep that birds eye view. I thought it was a bit unprofessional to play it the way he did.

Anyway as well as Williams played to recover I'm sure Ronnie will feel very sore for loosing that match after that brilliant last frame he won to draw level.