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What is the point in tailored suits ?

  • 31-12-2022 12:04am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 847 ✭✭✭


    Unless you happen to be someone who is in between sizes or is outside the normal size range I can't see any point in tailored suits.

    If you can fit into a standard suit size then buying a tailored suit seems like a complete waste of money to me.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 847 ✭✭✭Big Gerry


    Double post please delete.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,234 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    The point is that they look nice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Difference between fits well and fits better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 847 ✭✭✭Big Gerry



    So do Armani suits but you don't need to buy them tailored.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 847 ✭✭✭Big Gerry


    I believe the cheapest tailored suits cost about a grand were as you can buy a very nice business suit for around 500 euro.

    If I was a white collar professional who had to wear suits all the time I wouldn't buy a tailored suit unless I had money to burn.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Have you ever worn a tailored suit?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,745 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    A tailored suit fits you



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭GSBellew


    You gave the reason in your opening comment.

    There is no one size fits all solution, some people will get away with an off the shelf suit, it'll fit ok or even quite well, but there is going to be a compromise somewhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,448 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack



    If I was a white collar professional who had to wear suits all the time I wouldn't buy a tailored suit unless I had money to burn.


    White collar professionals who have to wear suits all the time do have money to burn, but because they have to wear suits all the time, they see the value in spending money on suits which are comfortable, as opposed to off-the-rack suits which are definitely nowhere near the same quality or comfort when they’re having to wear suits all day.

    Blue collar workers who don’t have to wear suits and have money to burn are more likely to have to wear PPE gear, which if you’ve ever had to wear it is often more about safety and less about comfort, unless you’re willing to spend a lot of money on quality, comfortable PPE gear that can be worn all day.

    Different strokes for different folks is all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭The Phantom Jipper


    I'd recommend getting off the rack if you can. I've had a few bad experience with tailored Hugo Boss suits. Any sort of coinage in the pockets will knacker the whole suit on you.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,181 ✭✭✭Immortal Starlight


    Every girls crazy about a sharp dressed man.



  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The difference is looking fine, and looking really good. A lot of people won't fit something off the rack perfectly.

    Never had a full suit tailored but trousers and shirts I've had done look way better. Same with having stuff I've bought off the rack adjusted. I thought the trick was to buy off the rack and have it adjusted, or did I hear that wrong?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭Mongfinder General




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭Alonzo Mosley


    It's a bit like buying a car with extras, if you can afford it go for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,127 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Designed to fit you perfectly



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Just be wary of cupping.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    No issue here with a bit of cupping from a good looking female.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,719 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Why do blue collar workers pay a small fortune for snickers work trousers instead of buying portwest gear? Same difference.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It’s like buying a guitar. It’s new but you still need to get a professional setup to make it better



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 Labelled


    OP you probably would not notice, but there is a big difference.

    A more cost effective alternative is

    1. Find a suit that fits you really well off the rack;
    2. Then get that suit tailored to fit you; N.B. The alterations place must be good in order for this to work.


    Other tips

    • If there is any kind of shine off the material do not buy the suit.
    • A poorly lit shop likely has inferior quality materials which will become evident the second you take it our of the store.
    • You need the material and the fit to be right.
    • Buy on the sale. You will normally get 50% off.
    • If you will wear the suit regularly (at least once a week) buy a second pair of trousers for the suit. The trousers will wear out after a few years whilst the jacket will still be perfect. Having the second pair of trousers will ensure you can get the most of your suit.
    • Buy and maintain good shoes. I personally find Loake (only those made in England RRP approx. €250, however, you can get them for as little as €150 on sale or seconds) to be good value. Buy at least two pairs and interchange them daily to get you started. Shoes I purchased 9 years ago still look the part (after multiple resolings).

    I have not purchased a suit in a number of years (due to Covid). Last time I looked I did not like Louis Copeland for price/quality and found some Magee suits to be good value. Last time I purchased a suit I paid around €400 on sale and paid another €60 for alterations. If you do it right you will be the best dressed in your office. People regularly comment on my appearance.

    Post edited by Labelled on


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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    If you need to know why a tailored suit is better looks at a grooms party in hired suits, they just don't sit quite right.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,448 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack



    • Buy and maintain good shoes. I personally find Loake (only those made in England) to be good value. Buy at least two pairs and interchange them daily to get you started. Shoes I purchased 9 years ago still look the part (Buy and maintain good shoes. I personally find Loake (only those made in England) to be good value. Buy at least two pairs and interchange them daily to get you started. Shoes I purchased 9 years ago still look the part (after multiple resolings).


    That sounds very much like the idea of the chap who says his shovel is as good as the day he bought it, he’s only had to replace the handle and the shovel part a couple of times 😁

    I don’t think I’d ever get that long out of a pair of shoes, I’d probably be taking them in to get re-soled every couple of months. I used to go down on the outside of my shoes fairly quickly, but I’d recommend any man investing in Loakes or a nice pair of shoes like that should get orthopaedic supports if they need them, wouldn’t need to be re-soled as often.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 Labelled


    It works for me.

    I used to wear normal mass manufactured shoes that I found looked like crap after a month.

    I sought out something better and personally found that shoes constructed by hand from a manufacturer with a good reputation using actual leather are better.

    Even my oldest pair look great. You must buy good quality in the first instance and then maintain at least once a month (Clean & hydrate with good quality products) See video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2ETjI2_6xQ


    Trial and error has thought me that getting a good cobbler is important and most I tried are rubbish.

    I use "Italian Heel Bar" off Grafton Street they are pretty good in my opinion.

    You can get the choice of rubber or leather soles for most shoes.

    Leather you could end up replacing them every 2 years depending on use (rain wears them down quicker), Rubber last around twice as long.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I just got married day before yesterday in a rented suit . It fit perfect because it was tailored



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Fair play, you obviously got lucky and went to a place with a good tailor. I've seen some look awful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    I had the last Armani suit I bought tailored, so it would look, and fit, better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,888 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    TBH, if you don't see the difference then don't bother.

    The piece that doesn't show in a fitted good quality suit ( plus being well shod, good shirt and tie) is how much it does for your self-confidence. deportment and general demeanour, especially if in a work environment full of "suits".

    The feel good, FU, factor is immeasurable.

    Its a bit like getting the first chur isteach, you have to experience it😀

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 837 ✭✭✭techman1


    especially nowadays when its so rare, but remember the bushy beard also needs to go . I think clean shaven sharp suited man is now a rarity



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    What are you doing posting in here just after getting married.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,222 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Conor McGreogor has got loads of young lads into suits again.

    Generally they look like rough out in them tough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,301 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    A well tailored suit can hide a lot. Even a well tailored of the rack suit can do so.

    A well fitted suit, good posture and a decent pair of shoes will allow a dramatically different 1st impression than the the same suit, unaltered, the same shoes unpolished and the same man slouching.

    There was advice offered earlier in the thread re: buying 2nd pair of trousers and some other wardrobe bits. I'd tend to agree. A few suit jackets can be used in rotation with trousers, shirts and ties to greatly expand a wardrobe too.

    5 suits and 75 variations is a common "how to build a wardrobe theme" an example in the video below, I'd drop the Tan after what happened Barack tho 😉

    I don't wear suits often anymore, I have a few left that allow me do similar to this tho.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    If you do ever find yourself in the position of needing a daily suit, rest assured tailored is not compulsory.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭corner of hells




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,222 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    That's when you get out your Canada Goose jacket and black Balenciaga runners!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,719 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    To end the thread in one go, Conor McGregor is the best exponent I can think of for *properly* tailored suits.

    With all his money, I've never seen him in public in a well fitted suit.

    A tailored suit is the difference between you and mere mortals. It needn't cost the Earth, but its one the better investments you'll make and you'll feel a million dollars.

    I have two suits made by Paul Henry in Dublin the last ten years and really for what you're getting, they're a steal.

    I've had them adjusted a few times to keep up with changing styles and to accommodate my middle aged spread and they are still like new. Everyone in my family knows that when I'm checking out, hopefully in about 4 decades time, that I want to be buried in the charcoal 3-piece made of Italian Reda wool.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,218 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Yep, With McGregor that is his brand…his brand and look is outlandish, OTT, ostentatious etc….deliberately, no accident

    you get some toe rag in similar get up here, tan patterned suit, pink shirt, the shoes, no socks, facial hair that probably made his mirror cry and bling a plenty 🤪

    you just think … mannnnnnn no.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 847 ✭✭✭Big Gerry



    I've worn a normal suit I brought from a suit shop that was pulled in a bit.

    Does that count ?

    It cost me 700 Euro.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭Feisar


    This is it, everything else is a close fit but it's a mile off a tailored fit.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I suppose it does as you now understand the benefit of having it altered a little to fit you. Tailored means all parts of the suit are custom made for you, they fit better, they look better, they are better. But there is no point in paying for it if you don’t appreciate the difference, it’s like paying for a nice wine and not knowing the difference between it and bottle of plonk. It’s all about choice and taste, €700 is a lot to pay for a suit that doesn’t fit you when you buy it, could you not have got one for €200?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,719 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    An adjusted suit off-the-peg is fine if you're lucky enough to have all your dimensions in perfect proportions, average arms, average legs, average shoulders, average trunk, but there are limits to which suits can be adjusted.

    A tailored suit is built up around you, it fits every bit of you like a glove. The fabric is your choice, the weight is your choice, the lining and the details and the pocket shapes and locations are your choice.

    Its like being Darth Vader in cashmere.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 847 ✭✭✭Big Gerry



    Its always good to have at least one good suit for going to interviews and special occasions etc.

    I also have another suit I brought from Pennies for 50 Euro which I could have used back in the day when I had no money and had to appear in court.

    The suit I got for 700 Euro is not a perfect fit because I'm in between sizes.

    A Tailored suit would make sense for someone like me who is in between sizes but I'm not willing to pay over a grand for a suit.

    700 Euro was only already above my original budget of 500 Euro.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Doesn't that post answer the question in the thread title?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 847 ✭✭✭Big Gerry



    I'm in a minority most people can fit into a standard size and don't need tailored suits.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,719 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    I was thinking the same. Wasn't it him that asked the question which he just answered???



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Because literally every body I know including my new wife has covid now 😂😂😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭1percent


    The benefit of a tailored suit is everything is for you. Colour, buttons, pockets, shape, cut everything. If you want nothing morethen a "suit" then ff the peg is grand, if you want something unique that you know no one else will ever have the exact same and you will appreciate it, a tailored suit is it



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    buy An off the shelf suit in a good outfitters and they’ll take a look at you and nip and tuck here and there and hey presto it looks like you’ve been in the gym all year 😂😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,092 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Made To Measure = off- the-shelf suit that is then altered for a better fit. Not that expensive in total.

    Bespoke = suit made from scratch using your personal measurements. Very expensive.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 837 ✭✭✭techman1


    true, but thats just a fad sort of like I'm so tough I can wear a suit and still be tough , ridiculously slim fitting about to burst out of it like the incredible hulk sort of thing and beards galore. Although when Mcgregor shaved off the beard he looked a million times better I think he was surprised himself so I doubt there will be a return of the full bearded Mcgregor,he can't really get rid of it now though as its all part of his image



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