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RTÉ is a disgrace

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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,891 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Looks like I missed absolutely nothing in televisual terms by being away in sunny Portugal for Christmas with BBC news and popular American sitcoms dubbed into Portuguese as the available material to watch on the hotel TV. 😁

    I cannot remember anything worth watching from RTÉ at New Years either. Mind you they did used to show some good films over the Christmas.

    BTW - The Rise and Fall of Bosco: Hookers and Coke Was Only The Beginning is at the post-production stage with many of the X-rated scenes getting heavy cuts in order to pass the film censor’s office.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    I’ve met him and been in his company lots of times but as I said, I only know him “to see”. We are not friends.

    If you find my behaviour (commenting on a public figure) weird that’s your opinion, a lot tamer than some of the things you’ve called me in the past to be fair so well done on that. I’d venture you’re not medically qualified to make such a diagnosis but fire away.

    I’d also ask is it any more weird than constantly defending someone you’ve never met or an organization you don’t work for?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭billyhead


    Are you in the Algarve? What's the weather like?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭CGI_Livia_Soprano
    Holding tyrants to the fire


    You don’t have to be a doctor to say that someone engaging in weird behaviour, though I do happen to think your preoccupation with him is weird and worthy of medical intervention.

    Defending RTE from their harshest critics isn’t weird, even if I don’t work for them. Some of the users on this site are unjustly obsessed with Tubridy and his salary, and I have every right to comment on that without fear of being intimidated into silence via PM by the likes of you.



  • Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I mean in the last month we have had:

    Quinn Country

    Two Tribes

    The Irish Civil War

    Each of them were outstanding documentaries serving the public interest, and just the type of thing that the likes of Virgin wouldn't be bothered making. Gangland Gougers narrated by Paul Williams might be popular, but it's not in the public interest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Lol, you were so intimidated that you replied to me via PM and posted a comment about it that was deleted almost instantly by the mod. You completely undermined your own claim. You were no more intimidated than Tubs at a NK Management luncheon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭GIMP


    Quinn Country

    Two Tribes

    The Irish Civil War


    Have to agree all 3 of these were good, so Rte are not completely useless



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,450 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    You see that's the problem with RTE,stuck in the past. Dunno if we learned anything new with the Quinn documentary,but the civil war and FF FG rivalry has been dug up and flogged so many times it's time to have them cremated. Wonder how often they get repeated.

    There's nothing on RTE to interest the under 70's.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭I see sheep


    A great time of the year for first world problems.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭CGI_Livia_Soprano
    Holding tyrants to the fire


    Gangland Gougers narrated by Paul Williams might be popular, but it's not in the public interest.

    To a lot of people the “gangland” would be the extent of the interest they have in current affairs.

    RTE have such a rich library of documentaries from virtually the creation of the Irish state. It’s nowhere near the BBC, obviously, but RTE have been a net benefit for Ireland for sure. Without a shadow of a doubt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    And the sycophantic praise continues. I really hope you’re getting paid for this.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭CGI_Livia_Soprano
    Holding tyrants to the fire


    RTE have a long history of showing great documentaries: Radharc, Hands, even Reeling in the Years. That doesn’t even include Radio 1 which has been providing top-drawer radio documentaries for almost a century. If you call that sycophancy then all I can say is get a fücking grip, man.

    Also please don’t send me any more DMs, I’m really not interested.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    I understand this Dancing With the .. so called .. Stars finishes up after the next one ends ... but like them talent shows it will be just renamed ... something like Strictly Dancing Ireland ... just another 3rd rate Strictly Come Dancing knock-off ...

    Same here ... would never watch it ... goes on way too long too ... from January until end of March .. they had to rush end it the first year of Covid ...

    Mrs Brown's Boys is woeful ... and if that is the best they can give us Christmas night ... then there is something wrong ... the audience that finds this funny is getting smaller and smaller too ... Mrs Brown was of its time ... it was never good ... but it was an alternative to the doom and gloom of the 2010 era banking crisis and endless TV programmes presented by Pat Kenny and his ilk about it ... and it belongs in 2011 and 2012 ... by 2013 it was losing what appeal it had ...

    Exactly ... Tubridy's TV and radio shows and D'Arcy's radio show ... plus whoever gets the Saturday night TV slot .. will all have OT and DWTS people on ... no wonder people are so bored with TV ... meanwhile anything good like Love/Hate or Kin only/will only last a few seasons ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭Emblematic


    Break it up so that it becomes a purely commercial outfit. Tubs and that lot can work for this company for whatever they are prepared to pay for as long as there is a market for it.

    With the money saved, create a commissioning body commissioning content made available to all channels including online streaming services.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    The BBC has gone very downhill in recent years too ... while they have some outstanding drama from time to time the rest of their output leaves a lot to be desired ... they used to be good at comedy ... now they are reduced to Mrs Brown's Boys ...

    BBC and RTE have some sort of deal to show it the same time ... for both it is their 'highlight' attempt for Christmas and other bank holiday nights ... it got lucky back in 2011 when people wanted anything ... just anything ... that was not about doom and gloom banking crisis recession ... by 2013 people were sick of it ... it should have finished with the 3rd season back in 2013 ... the Christmas episodes since then have been far worse than the original 3 series .. they cost fa to make .. which reflects what TV stations think of us !!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    +1 ... putting on endless repeats of Mrs Brown's Boys ... formulaic perennials like OT and DWTS ... and concerts by the same clique of 'artists' they support like Westlife ... and then expecting support ... RTE and TV stations in general need to remember they are funded by the people who pay the fees ... a little respect for their audience rather than pushing the same people at us would not go astray ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Radharc and Hands? It must be a quarter of a century since they were last aired.

    I wasn’t referring to your sycophancy re. documentaries, rather your never ending praise for the station, it’s content, and “talent”. Have RTÉ ever done anything badly in your opinion?



  • Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    RTÉ is actually projecting much of the issues that blight its own institution unto the HSE, through negative reports on the News Bulletins on Radio 1.

    The HSE does a lot better, with less resources at its disposal and all its inefficiencies than RTÉ. True, there are Cosultants employed by the HSE who are most reluctant to do anything for Medical Card holders and other Public Service Patients. RTE use the services of some beautiful people who can't abide to be in the presence of these public service patients anymore than what they need to spend time with for publicity purposes.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭CGI_Livia_Soprano
    Holding tyrants to the fire


    Yes: the light-entertainment side of RTE is something I am not a fan of. Operation Transformation, Dancing with the Stars, Ireland's Fittest Family are all programmes I would not like to watch, though I do admit that they do have a captivated audience so they're just not for me.

    Now give me an example of something RTE has done well, there. Go on. One thing. :D



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭HBC08


    Middle aged men barb.At what point do you have to acknowledge you have some sort of issue?

    Every

    Single

    Post



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Reruns of Wanderly Wagon please.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,309 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Talk to Joe.....tell him about da pain dat you feeeeeel caller



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,024 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Watched ‘Tackling the All Blacks’ on RTÉ there, really great show.

    The broadcaster has its problems and some poor “output” but the BBC has the same problem.

    Some people focus far too much on the negative aspects, and on certain presenters, and won’t hear anything positive said about RTÉ. Anyone who doesn’t “conform” to the bitter, and twisted, hatred are driven from threads in the Radio/TV forum.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    If you bothered reading my posts you'd know I've showered praise on Paths To Freedom - a series I watch probably once a year. I paid an obscene amount of money for it when it came out on DVD first.

    I'm a big fan of Oliver Callan's "Callan's Kicks", and like his hosting style whenever he sits in for Tubs. He's much more suited to the show than the incumbent. In a similar vein I liked Scrap Saturday.

    Claire Byrne's recent interview with Rory Coveney was a very good interview, as was Swing-gate with Sean O'Rourke and Maria Bailey.

    I really enjoyed LOVE/HATE, and I even enjoyed the much-maligned Kin.

    The RTE Soccer Panel (Dunphy, Giles, and O'Herlihy) were very good in their prime, probably changed how football analysis was done for most British stations. A lot of the RTE Sports coverage when I was growing up was quite good, though with the loss of so many rights in recent years it's been very poor.


    edit: forgot to include “The Savage Eye”

    There's more than one for you.

    Post edited by ButtersSuki on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,587 ✭✭✭baldbear


    Too many repeats of Kilnaskully from 2007 and cooking shows. They must have 7 different cookery shows. I'd like to see The Savage Eye back or something like Bull Island.

    I enjoy Ireland's fittest family. I have to say that hidden camera show on Christmas Eve was absolutely brutal. The skits have been done before and some were just cringe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,700 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    Mrs browns boys was never good but now they're not even brothered to try.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,450 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    They have had the occasional hit,possibly by accident with The Savage Eye,The Panel,Nighthawks and maybe a few others I can't recall. All decades ago though,they don't seem willing to take on anything even slightly controversial,even Dustin was cast aside. The Savage Eye Isn't even on The Player afaik.

    The remakes of dancing,cooking, running around obstacle courses are fine if you like them,but it was the left field individually Irish stuff that turned out to be the best reflection of ourselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,458 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    In fairness, Fittest Family is far from a remake. It is an Irish independent production that has spawned an international franchise. RTE facilitated this and created a generation of hugely positive role models for teenagers, in a Kardashian world.

    Credit where credit is due.





  • yea they’d need some money for the new futurama episodes especially since they’d have to make them. What with it being cancelled years ago.





  • Also interesting note.. the two users defending RTE on this thread happen to type very, very similarly and both have quite similar bios.. 🤔


    how very interesting.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    +1 ..

    I too really enjoyed Love/Hate and Kin ... this is the sort of programme they should be concentrating on ... there is so much potential there ... look forward to a second series of Kin ...

    Like all channels at present ... comedy and chat shows are problematic at the moment .... and the pandemic of reality TV is still ongoing! ... it is time to end all reality TV for a time ... esp stuff on for years like DWTS, OT and all talent shows ... they impact the chat shows and make them bad too ... it is also time to get rid of Mrs Brown ... the latter was ok 10-12 years ago .. never great but appealed to a banking crisis-weary audience of the time ... the reality yokes peaked some 18-20 years ago ... it is time to move on ...

    RTE handle sporting events well ... no complaints about their world cup coverage for example ... but quality matches like we saw in the world cup just gone esp the final just have to be shown ... Messi, Mbappe and co do the rest ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    Mrs Brown's Boys happened to be shown at the right time ... people were weary from constant banking crisis/recession programmes a la The Frontline and the Week in Politics ... nothing else but that was on TV at the time back in 2010 .... and in 2011 they all flocked to Mrs Brown as their saviour wrt escapism ...

    It was never good ... and people quickly found that out and moved on ... there was Love/Hate, GoT, Breaking Bad, Peaky Blinders, etc. as better escapism ... and Mrs Brown should have ended in 2013 ... instead it has been revived every Christmas since with some other episodes like one's for Paddies' Day one year ... and all Christmas episodes are getting worse and worse every year ... much worse than the 3 series ever were ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    Do not know what Wanderly Wagon is ... but at least it is not Mrs Brown's Boys ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,388 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Interesting also that the other 98 contributors have very anti RTE views. And like all the threads in Radio where anyone goes off the anti RTE message, they try to close down the dissenters. Often by intimidation and conspiracy theories like yours. Very interesting indeed.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭CGI_Livia_Soprano
    Holding tyrants to the fire


    That happens so often and yet when I say anything back the moderators and administrators threaten to ban me for it. It’s one rule for the regular contributors and another for the rest of us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,584 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I've lost count of the number of times my employment status at RTE has been brought up in posts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,024 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Any regarding NK Management, E? That’s another “favourite”.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,584 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    That's off the books so I don't like talking about it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 325 ✭✭RockOrBog


    Fair City.. nothing good RTE have ever done would cancel out that embarrassment.

    Tubridy

    Mutilated clones of foreign imports, complete with Irish dancing and changing popular songs into Irish.

    Football commentators with very strong accents

    Weather forecast is a joke.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,011 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    The BBC seems to be full of cookery and antiques type shite lately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,517 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    TV3 or Virgin Media wotsit is even worse.

    Thank jebus for streaming is all I can say. Couldn't stand watching the unfunny adult panto complete with panto dame that is Mrs BBs.

    RTE, current affairs aside, is more misses than hits.





  • i don’t really have strong feelings one way or the other for RTE personally, so I assure you I’m not trying to close down anything or anyone.

    I just happened to notice something. It’s even more interesting to me because the aforementioned has been accused of previously having multiple accounts in order to signal boost an argument/opinion etc in an effort to add substance. They denied such behaviour but it just seemed funny when I saw the two accounts doing so right now, typing very similarly & with very similar bios.

    I don’t know or care about the radio forum, so again, keep the accusations of conspiracy theories or indeed shutting down opinions other than mine to yourself. I’m open to listening to (and if warranted) debating any topic or opinion. I don’t seek to shut people down unless they are providing nothing of substance.

    That said, there’s no fun in any discussion where users are making alts to bolster their own agenda and make it appear more valid or whatever.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think we as a country need public broadcasting, so privatisation should not be an option, but there is a rot in rte , it probably hails back to Ireland getting its independence and thinking it’s the bbc , rte is too numbers driven , we need stop trying to complete with commercial stations and spend the money showing proper arts and less expensive personalities , more creedon less darcy would a good summation of ted point I’m trying to make . Get that right and you’ll never know , the audience might be there !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,371 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Yep, loads of interesting stuff and people out there. We are paying €€€ for the most bland, tedious and conservative stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,450 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Agree. They need to follow Tna G's model of specially Irish programming not cooking on ice or whatever it is that they inevitably fail at.

    If we're paying for a national broadcaster let's have national broadcaster.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    So why use or have TV if it is as bad as you say?

    I decided in the UK that the internet was enough for me so I ditched the TVs. ( I had 2 and two video recorders at one stage)

    When I came to Ireland I rented a house and put the TV in a cupboard... Never missed it once.

    There is always plenty online. At my pace etc. Big events too are well covered.



  • Registered Users Posts: 477 ✭✭glitterIsland


    I completely agree with you. I live happily without relying on the TV as a past time. I can go weeks and even sometimes months without sitting down and watching TV. Its nice to have the big screen for Christmas time and for watching movies. The TV listings was appalling this year and had to rely on the online movies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,699 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    Dont forget fair city. An absolute pox on every man woman and child in the state.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,699 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    With Dermot Bannon and Doreen Garrihy also doing their bi annual late late interviews.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,653 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I think vast majority people have Browns Boys sussed, as being absolute gick



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