Yellow Box Junctions at the End of Bus Lanes?!

timetogo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120009430#Comment_120009430

Not complaining. You asked about the rules and if there were exceptions when somebody drives in a way you didn't like.

We don't ignore the rules just because breaking them won't, apparently, affect anybody.

You could use the same reasoning for any rule. E.g. I'm at a red light with no other traffic, or people, in sight so if I go through it "no one will ever complain... or even notice".

No point getting irritated when somebody answers with an answer you don't like.

Wishbone Ash

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120008701#Comment_120008701

Why have you a problem with someone being 'exact'? You are the one looking for answers. The regulations have to be fairly tight otherwise they'd be open to debate/loopholes.

And why would you wish to block another driver from exiting the bus lane? if you believe they shouldn't be there you should be facilitating their exit to free up the bus lane.

I used to drive buses but never got bothered by others breaking the rules. It wasn't my job to police other drivers.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120009457#Comment_120009457

In theory yes, but the risk of a Garda bothering their arse to prosecute this issue is fairly tiny.

Electric Gypsy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120010768#Comment_120010768

Ah ha... someone who knows the rules but is also in touch with reality!

Electric Gypsy

@Wishbone Ash And why would you wish to block another driver from exiting the bus lane? if you believe they shouldn't be there you should be facilitating their exit to free up the bus lane.

No, he should be forced to move on so that he won't get a habit of being cheeky. And that's what happen when the other bus came up behind him.

Electric Gypsy

@timetogo1 Not complaining. You asked about the rules and if there were exceptions when somebody drives in a way you didn't like.

You said (based on my comments) that the standard of people who drive for a living seems terrible. That's what I took as a complaint. I was not implying that the answers were complaints. Nice try though!

@timetogo1 We don't ignore the rules just because breaking them won't, apparently, affect anybody.

What "we" are you referring to? Because in case you didn't realise, the vast majority of drivers don't seem to be aware of the boxes I refer to.

Electric Gypsy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120009457#Comment_120009457

Ha! What planet are you living on? This isn't Britain where they've cameras on the boxes. There's a higher chance of hitting the lotto than being fined by a guard for being in the box junction. I'll take my chances and leave you to continue acting like a robot.

timetogo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120012007#Comment_120012007

The vast majority of drivers in this thread know what the yellow boxes are for.

There only seems to be one that is confused. You started off the thread complaining because a driver went through one correctly and get narky with anybody who doesnt agree with you.

Spook_ie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120012023#Comment_120012023

Fine, you asked what the situation was, it has been explained to you.

You drive how you think you should and if that includes breaking traffic laws you should expect a day in court if you are involved in an accident when disregarding traffic law.

Brid Hegarty

A lot of road rage these days!

Electric Gypsy

@timetogo1 The vast majority of drivers in this thread know what the yellow boxes are for.

There's a big difference between knowing what yellow box junctions are for, and being "aware" of them!

Esel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120013574#Comment_120013574

What's the difference, in your mind?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120012138#Comment_120012138

The only person who hasn't got a clue about the road markings and rules surrounding yellow boxes is a professional bus driver, to the complete surprise of absolutely nobody.

"If you're not gonna answer, don't bother".........quickly followed by......"why are you being so exact with your answers?????" is like something out of a schizophrenic nightmare. Both yellow boxes posted so far aren't even at junctions, FFS.

Electric Gypsy

Was at a particularly infamous yellow box junction today. A lady was completely on top of the junction in stopped traffic. So I pulled up in front of her and nudged the corner of the bus into the gap between her and some sort of road maintenance vehicle that was in front of her. The vehicle in front of her then moves left and goes into the bus lane and I move half of the bus in the junction. She beeps her horn at me. I then see her in my mirror getting out of the car. She then gets back into the car and walk towards the bus. She then turns around and gets back into the car... presumably because she realised she was in the junction only when she got out.

the boss of me

Lots of road users do things they shouldn't. YOU as a professional driver should make allowances and take these things in your stride. It's not your job to police or reprimand other road users. Take a chill pill and try to represent your company in a calm professional manner.

Electric Gypsy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120035579#Comment_120035579

Yeah, I suppose. Anyway, did you ever hear the David Bowie song 'Boss of Me'??

StreetLight

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120035579#Comment_120035579

The bus driver was being assertive. The car driver was aggressive. Big difference. If bus drivers weren't assertive, they would never get anywhere.

the boss of me

The line between aggressive and assertive can be blurred and as neither you nor I were there we can't definitively state what happened. However we can take it from lady drivers response that she considered it aggressive as she got out of her car to remonstrate with the busman.

These situations are easily avoided by taking a more relaxed approach. There's no point in having a hissy fit or getting "into it" with other road users. You'll only put stress on yourself. I let it go over my head always get there safely, relaxed and on time.