Landlord wants to change rent payment from monthly to weekly

newmember2

I'm renting a property where the lease elapsed a couple of years ago and the landlord and I have been continuing on within the terms of the old lease on a month-by-month basis to date, with an eviction notice now served and due to be executed at the end of the current eviction ban. For some reason unknown to me the landlord wants to now start collecting the rent on a weekly rather than monthly basis. I can't see the reasoning behind this, but according to the landlord, it's to facilitate if I was to move out in the middle of a monthly rental period (whatever that means?). I'm really at a loss as to what he's at to be honest.

FishOnABike

It could work in your favour. Check the weekly ent x 52 is the same as themonthly rent x 12.

If paying monthly at the start of the month and you moved out near the start of the month would you get a rent refund for the part of the month after you move out?

If paying weekly you wouldn't be out of pocket more than a few day rent even if not refuded for the days after you move out.

Someone else might know a downside but so long as it suits you and it's paid by bank transfer and not the landlord calling around, I can't think of one offhand.

Saudades

Landlord could be trying to scam you.

Make sure it's (monthly rent X 12 months) / 52 weeks.

Landlord may try to chance monthly rent / 4 weeks. If they do this, you will be out of pocket.

The Real President Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058275300/landlord-wants-to-change-rent-payment-from-monthly-to-weekly

She wants to make sure you don't skip out on the rent and leave the place wrecked

All you have to do is pay your rent on time and respect the place

Just pay your rent in full, on time or early.

Donald Trump

Tell him to F off. He has no authority to change that unilaterally.

If he's already evicting you, I wouldn't be worried about it.

The Real President Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119981648#Comment_119981648

What astonishingly terrible advice

Just pay your rent in full, on time or early, job done.

ballyharpat

Just curious, why would it bother you if they want the rent was paid weekly?

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119981707#Comment_119981707

The agreement is monthly.

What on earth leads you to believe he can unilaterally decide to change that?

If one party to the contract can unilaterally decide to change the payment frequency, then why can't the other? In which case the OP can change the payment frequency to yearly, or every decade, or every century....... Ya didn't think of that when you were giving your own amazing advice did ya?

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119981733#Comment_119981733

Would it bother you as a landlord if your tenant informed you that they would henceforth be paying the rent annually and to come back to them in 12 months for it......... "Just curious"

newmember2

It doesn't bother me in the slightest other than the fact that he insists on calling in and being paid in cash, and I was wondering was he trying to introduce a rent increase on the sly with the four weeks vs calendar month thing. I'm living here years so it's definitely not a case that the landlord is afraid I might wreck the place, they also already have a month's rent deposit in their pocket. In reality I could do as Donald suggested and say it doesn't suit me. As I said in the OP, I really cannot see any logical reasoning for it from his point of view, and yes, as I've said, I've been here years, whatever date or part of the monthly rent cycle I move out, we sort out what's owed to who - it's not exactly rocket science. I really don't know where he's going with this. He also started alluding to his daughter who is meant to be moving into the place's circumstances getting more urgent. This is nothing to do with me so not sure what he's at trying to make out it's any of my business.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119981898#Comment_119981898

Annually in advance. Yes sign me up please.

The Real President Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119981884#Comment_119981884

There's no agreement, it has expired as per op, only statutory protections now

I'd say every landlord everywhere would love a year - 25k, a decade - 250k or a century 2.5 million in advance

Augme

I'd say no. Also refuse to pay cash in hand. Report him to revenue as well.

893bet

Has he given you a valid eviction notice? Small of cowboy off this lad

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119982138#Comment_119982138

Nope. No court would agree with you any more that it might agree, for example, that the person is not a tenant because there is no current agreement. Under the 2004 Act, unless terminated in the correct manner, the tenancy continues anyway.

As for the latter, great. You can rent out your property like I said, Rather than collecting your rent now you can come back in 12 months for the yearly rent. It was quite clear what I said.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119982138#Comment_119982138

Yes. You too. As I said, you can come back in 12 months to collect the yearly rent in a lump sum together.

I hope that some of you on here get help in reading over things before you sign them................

The Real President Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119981907#Comment_119981907

It's towards the end you wreck a place because this is when things sour and cause you're moving you don't care anymore, he just doesn't want this to happen, all ya gotta do is pay your rent on time in full, simples

appledrop

Under no circumstances pay the rent on weekly basis cash in hand you wouldn't know what Stoke the landlord is trying to pull.

Are you sure your eviction notice is legitimate, how long have you lived there? How much notice have you been given?

The landlord could be trying to say down the line that you haven't paid your rent if you give cash and no paper trail to follow it.

I think you should link in with RTB.

The Real President Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119982205#Comment_119982205

Wrong, and good job at completely ignoring the part where I mention statutory protection, such legislation does not specify specific dates when rent is to be paid, or by what methods just that the tenant is obliged to pay their rent on time and in full even if there is some sort of disagreement

Shifting the goalposts now to in arrears won't save your geaces

The Real President Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119982211#Comment_119982211

Apart from the fact rent us paid in advance, shift the goalposts there all the way down the road from reality if you want

dennis72

I had someone leave in middle of monthly period they didn't pay so had to deduct it from deposit which they asked for return 2 weeks before leaving and these where good tenants.

He is probably trying to avoid similar.

Bad attitude to lls who have been vilified by politicians media.& here

colm_mcm

If you’re paying monthly in advance, then what benefit could the landlord have by changing that to weekly?

The Spider

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119981884#Comment_119981884

The lease is up, when you’re renting you’re paying for a service, the service provider dictates the terms, just as if you stayed in a hotel you have to abide by the payment methods put forward by the hotel.

Caranica

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119982747#Comment_119982747

No, the OP has part IV rights and these do not give the landlord the right to unilaterally change the terms of the agreement.

The Spider

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119982770#Comment_119982770

Part 4 has nothing to do with when the rent is paid, it just means you get longer eviction notices, that’s it.

Pawwed Rig

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119981884#Comment_119981884

Given that in general rent is paid in advance I cannot see how any of these things would benefit the OP. Are they paying in arrears?

DFB-D

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119982747#Comment_119982747

The lease created the tenancy, the tenancy has the same (compliant) terms as the lease and remains in force.

OP I would say a change in payment frequency has to be agreed by both parties. I wouldn't automatically assume a cash payment means tax evasion, it could be to try and keep money away from the bank as well.

But it is very inconvenient to come up with cash weekly, maybe suggest revelut and a reduction?

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119982249#Comment_119982249

What advantage is there to a landlord claiming a tenant hasn't paid rent?

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119982802#Comment_119982802

Are you seriously not able to understand the point? Which is that one party cannot unilaterally change an agreement?

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119982747#Comment_119982747

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119982775#Comment_119982775

Absolutely incorrect in this instance. Under part IV the tenancy will continue unless terminated. You have a lot to learn if you consider the relationship of landlord<-->tenant to be the same as a hotel<-->guest

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119982257#Comment_119982257

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