TRESSPASSING "HUNTERS"

J.R.

https://carlow-nationalist.ie/2022/12/06/trespassing-hunters-becoming-bold-in-carlow/

These guys give all hunters a bad name.

Not many hunters head out in tracksuit bottoms and hoodies. ☺️

The Super is completely wrong here (and he's in charge of issuing licences)   .......if quoted accurately!

Supt Aidan Brennan said the use of firearms and lamps at night for hunting were unlawful and should be reported to gardaí. Supt Brennan said he had powers to revoke firearm licences if he found anyone involved in dangerous behaviour, like using a firearm at night.  

 

You are allowed shoot foxes, rabbits and vermin at night with a rifle and lamp.

otmmyboy2

Superintendent doesn't know the law...

Can't say I'm shocked from my past experiences with 3 different ones tbh.

One was insistent that a 22lr was a perfectly adequate cartridge,

For deer 🤣🤣🤣

Asus1

I think I was told before trespass is a civil matter on farmland where as trespass on a home or business is something guards would deal with.

It's amazing that the main part of the story is left out for fear of offending people.By and large people trespassing farmlands with lurchers or whippets are from a certain section of society who couldn't give a flying f how many times they are pulled or told to stay away,they just don't care.

As for the last bit,what was the super on about.Why he wants to drag firearms and licence holders into something which has nothing to do with them is strange.

Grizzly 45

As for the last bit,what was the super on about? Why he wants to drag firearms and licence holders into something which has nothing to do with them is strange.

Either he doesn't want to offend Ireland's "Racial minority community" or he is from the Barrack Obama school of "never let a good crisis go to waste!" and blame an innocent 3rd party for his shortcomings in policing his manor.

Cllr McDonald said: “It’s going to blow up at some stage. Rural people are in fear of their property, their stock being let out on the road or information going around their property

It already did in Co Dublin at the beginning of the year.A case is now in court about the murder/manslaughter of one of the tresspassers.

Grizzly 45

A good explanation of the Trespass laws in Ireland [I have NO connection whatsoever to this law firm etc ]

Kind of an important one too if you have hunt sabs and these other "hunters" to deal with. Didnt know there is such a thing as "trespass to the subsoil" concerning your roadside boundary.

https://mcmahonsolicitors.ie/trespass/#:~:text=Trespass%20to%20Land&text=The%20Constitution%20protects%20the%20inviolability,there%20is%20a%20continuing%20trespass.

Asus1

Just to add a bit more to my above point.Ive only really started getting serious into fox shooting the last few years but the amount of fellas with small and large bits of land saying to me that I'm free to shoot away any evening on their land is an eye-opener.

They don't specifically say it but the reason they want me out there is to throw an eye on the land and a vehicle in the gateway at odd times helps keep our tracksuit hunters away even if it's only temporary.

Also it's sad that a fair few want every rabbit and hare gone,not because they hate the animals but because if there's no eye shine in the fields the "hunters"usually don't bother stopping.

Feisar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119976497#Comment_119976497

On the statute book it's referred to as curtilage.

13. —(1) It shall be an offence for a person, without reasonable excuse, to trespass on any building or the curtilage thereof in such a manner as causes or is likely to cause fear in another person.

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058275195/tresspassing-hunters

I think Mr garda is mixing up hunting game and vermin control. You can’t hunt game at night. You also can’t hunt with lamps.

Foxes and Rabbits are vermin. You can control vermin with lamps and at night.

Doesn’t help that some documents separate the two types of shooting.

delboythedub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119976145#Comment_119976145

I dont think that Breaking the 1976 Wildlife Act is a civil matter

Rescueme0007

There is the capacity to shoot deer with lamps at night, but only if one has been afforded a Section 42 Certificate (from the NPWS) which expressly authorises the use of the lamp. So one would need to be very persuasive!!

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120127409#Comment_120127409

Sure, I was referring to the default situation.

There are many means of suspending various laws for individuals, or the public as a whole.

Uinseann_16

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119978107#Comment_119978107

Sometimes Gardai are happy youre out too, I have a dashcam and I drive around at night for fox shooting you'd be surprised what youd come across...

Goodtimesroll

Had a visit during the week from the lurcher gang out using drones to draw less attention than lights. Flashing red and blue light on drones

Grizzly 45

more serious than an actual tresspass these days ,flying a no doubt unliscensed drone over private property.