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Has anyone here brought a non-EU girlfriend to live in Ireland? How did you do it?

  • 03-12-2022 3:23pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭


    So I met a girl while traveling and became romantically entangled.

    I've been in contact with her since. I want her to come to Ireland and yes she wants to come too. I'm Irish and live here. She's Colombian.

    What's the best way to do this?

    I know there's a de facto spouse thing but you have to live together for 2 years in order to qualify.

    Is marriage the only option? And if it is, does it guarantee her entry into the state?

    Are there any other options that will allow her to come and live here? Something like "that one simple trick the Irish government hates!!!"


    SO, let's get the piss taking out of the way first shall we? Mail order bride and all that. No I'm not a 90 year old pervert either.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,964 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    Main question is, does she want to come over here? Couldn't find it in your post, all I saw was I want her to come to Ireland.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Where is she from?

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users Posts: 11 Abril9



    Well now I would have sworn you were a dirty old man looking for a mail order! I'm only codding ya!


    First question would be what Nationality is she? You'd be surprised as there are different rules/regulations/restrictions for many.

    De-Facto is indeed a route to go down as is marriage and there are other options too as temporary solutions work visa & student. The best piece of advice I could give you is to get herself here and settled in some way, shape or form. That's assuming she wants to come and join you 😋

    From there get your names together on stuff and work forward from that point onwards. It's not a walk in the park in terms of getting settled here but it's possible despite the obstacles that will come your way. So go for it the two of you if it feels right.

    As for entry into the state/visa etc. There'll be a list out there of precisely what's required these days to gain entry but in my honest opinion normally that's not the issue.

    It's the personality of the person in the booth opposite you who is reviewing passports. On one hand you might get a lovely person who won't bad an eyelid. They'll make sure all requirements are met and stamp you in but then you can also sometimes encounter the other types. The folks with the horrible personalities who spend their weekends eating rustler's burgers and watching friends on loop.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭JackieChang




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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭JackieChang




  • Registered Users Posts: 864 ✭✭✭thegame983




  • Registered Users Posts: 18,693 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Making good use of the gringo effect. Fair play



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,964 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    That's good, if everything clicks in I wish to both of you best of luck and long live together. Posters above have info on how to, might be kind of long path, but rewarding in the end. Hope you'll both find the happiness.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11 Abril9


    Absolutely, best wishes.

    I will say this as someone who has been through it. At the beginning when you are beginning to figure of what is needed, how to go about it, what challenges will arise, what you can do and what you can't do etc. All of that put together when it dawns on you makes the whole thing seem impossible.

    BUT if you prepare for it and strategize it's merely a checklist that needs to be followed and it can be done in efficient timing these days. You'll see plenty of non-EU/EEA women/men rocking around now who are settled and comfortable.

    There is a blueprint to follow that perhaps wasn't there years ago.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭JackieChang


    Nationality is Colombian. You seem to be fairly knowledgeable on the topic. What if they come on a tourist visa and we get married the very next day. Will she be allowed to stay? We can prove that it's not a scam marriage of convenience. Got a year of correspondence.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Jarhead_Tendler


    My friend did. She just arrived from brazil at the beginning of covid. No questions asked. Still here



  • Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭marty whelan


    Nope getting married while she is here won't help. Better off getting married abroad and then applying for join family



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,339 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    The 'RA used have a connection with Colombia, something to do with bird watching and mortars , they might be able to help.

    Failing that the lads who move Cocaine around might be another option.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,945 ✭✭✭beachhead


    As far as I am aware the Civil registration office does not allow this.You can register your intention to marry while she is here on a tourist visa which does not entitle a partner to stay indefinitely.The office will tell you to return in 3 months for the ceremony provided they are satisfied with all the documents supplied by both of you.Then the residency process can begin.Your partner will have to be back in Colombia when starting the residency process.Speak to your nearest civil registration office for up to date info.Look on inis.gov.ie for immigration rules.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,708 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Does she realize how $hit the weather is here?



  • Registered Users Posts: 634 ✭✭✭Pablo Escobar


    A very common, and relatively easy way that it’s done now is coming on a student Visa while enrolling in a cheap English language course. At least I think it’s a student visa, but I’m certain it’s obtained due to the course. That could buy you some time.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,693 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    They might be refused entry if upfront about the plan.


    There was a poster on here a year or two back that used to have some crazy threads. He was posting about being single and emigrating because there was nothing for him in Ireland, then suddenly a few months later posting about getting married to a Brazilian student he had fallen in love with but was out of her status here, and asking whether they could go abroad to get married quicker (maybe to Malta if I remember correctly). And then a few weeks later he was posting asking about annulments and divorces. I think it was around the start of covid because he used to post mad stuff against sensible measures.

    The passport is a big advantage and very valuable. It's fine to joke about it, and I would have no problem with anyone using it to add to their advantage when maybe punching above their weight in other regards, but you'd really want to be careful that you're not just being seen as a passport and future divorce payout.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭walterking


    The easiest way with no risk to any party is if she has a skill that matches with the critical skills list on DOE

    https://enterprise.gov.ie/en/what-we-do/workplace-and-skills/employment-permits/employment-permit-eligibility/highly-skilled-eligible-occupations-list/


    Once she gets the employment permit she can apply for a working visa.


    Education, social care and health are the 3 main areas at present.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,561 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    suitcase, be grand.....



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,609 ✭✭✭maninasia


    Why do you care about mail order bride pervert blah blah comments. Why would somebody from Columbia be anything but your gf and your business. Just tell those people to **** themselves, in my experience 99% of folks don't care who your partner is nor should they.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭mistersifter


    A lot of people from Latin America would qualify for an EU passport through grandparents.

    Others come to study on a student visa, either by paying for English language courses or the even more costly option of degree/masters degrees. If she was to study here for 2 years and you lived together during that time, she would then qualify for De Facto. It's not cheap but potentially cheaper then getting married if that doesn't work out.

    Would not be a good idea to arrive on a tourist visa if she wants to stay here long term. Whatever she is doing should be arranged in advanced - courses confirmed or wedding planned.



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,972 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Is she qualified in any technical or IT related field? There are skills shortages in Ireland, she might be able to get a visa independently of your relationship?

    Get her certified as a Database Administrator and she'll be given a visa and walk into a high paid job



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,693 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Would you recommend he go Asian instead of Latina? The Latinas tend to be unquestionably hotter in my opinion

    However the Asians love you long time. Or so I've heard.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,479 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    A large crate, make sure you drill a few holes for air first.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 90,374 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Misread the title thought you'd bought a girlfriend. Oh well.


    Check if she could get dual Spanish citizenship by descent. Then she won't need to marry you.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 9,799 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    That would be a breach of her tourist visa and and excellent way of getting deported! You are basically asking the authorities to disregard that fact that she lied on her visa application and believe that a year worth of correspondence represents a genuine relationship…. Start with a lie and that is hard to rollback.

    Also ask your questions in a serious forum, which this is not.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 26 friday one


    Apologies if things have changed, however I married my non EU wife in a civil ceremony in Ireland when she was here on a tourist visa. This was 6 years ago.

    We had had to do a separate "interview" the day before to ensure it wasn't a scam marriage. It was questions like "where was your first date", "who is her best friend?". I was actually a bit taken back. The lady interviewing was very embarrassed. She kept apologising as it was clear it wasn't a scam. She told me before it was introduced it was common to have an Asian man and a woman from eastern Europe, neither able to speak English nor each others language.

    I had to arrange it well in advance and get birt certs translated.

    It was recommended to me that after marriage my wife leave and we apply for another visa (weirdly not a family reunion one)

    However she could have made an application to stay immediately, but this would potentially delayed her getting a stamp 4.

    She recently got her Irish Citizenship.



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