Garda assaulted

BronsonTB

Hope all are caught, charged & given lengthy prison sentences.

Tolerance of such scum behaviour should to be stamped out...enough is enough

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2022/1121/1337361-gardai-attack/

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There is a video doing the rounds. Abhorrent scenes. Absolutely disgusted.

This is out of control. The respect for Guards is non existent in parts of Dublin. Enough is enough. Bulk up the force and equip them better.

Respect for the law is also gone. Fix up a lenient legal system that lets repeat offenders walk through a revolving court room door.

It is all on the Government to sort this out for **** sake and they are absolutely spineless. I despair to see what this city is descending into on their watch.

Gusser09

Multiple previous convictions no doubt. Prison is like a hotel for this shower. It's the one things I'd like to take from the States. Proper sentencing. For an attack on AGS like this 15 years should be a minimum.

SEPT 23 1989

more facilities, key workers and hugs will solve this

barneygumble99

Keep the scumbags circulating in society, keep the legal system employed and money makes the world go round

Gusser09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119901125#Comment_119901125

The amount of money the legal professionals make out of free legal aid and repeat offenders is crying out for a Prime Time investigates special.

Dyr

Might be an idea to bring back proper physical performance requirments for Gardai. Would mean less oompa loompas walking around in uniform though, so not acceptable.

JPCN1

Saw the video. Savage beating of a man on the ground. Our Gards desperately need the support of the Judiciary but no sign of this. If Judges were taking a hiding like this I wonder would they be handing out such lenient sentences?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119901156#Comment_119901156

Not saying it is the case here, I agree, keeping fit and regular fitness tests should be part of the job.

It shouldn't be a case of once your in leave it at that.

Deebles McBeebles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119901139#Comment_119901139

Much like the greyhound racing episode, it would interest poeople for a while but change nothing, unfortunately.

Gusser09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119901209#Comment_119901209

Oh I know. It's a legalised fraud against the tax payer.

thefallingman

I can't understand why anyone would want to be a garda

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119901191#Comment_119901191

Having seen the video its the case here

Watching a garda being streeled around by the hair and easily manhandled while their colleague takes a kicking is not pleasant

BorneTobyWilde

Female Guard needs to hold her head down in shame. She did nothing, and at no point was she restrained from helping.

BorneTobyWilde

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119901636#Comment_119901636

I dunno what video you saw that in , but I'd like to see it . In video I saw she was free, and walking around looking on.

kirk.

The job they do

Who'd want it

lmao10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119901709#Comment_119901709

There are a lot of places I wouldn't feel comfortable being a guard in. Ballyer, Clondalkin, Tallaght, Ballymun, Finglas, Neilstown, etc. You need at least three guards if you're going on the beat there. The lad could have been killed. Hopefully they take this seriously.

xhomelezz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119901718#Comment_119901718

Think that video is part of article on Indo website.

Esse85

https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/oireachtas/2022/10/20/poor-fitness-levels-a-growing-problem-in-recruiting-gardai/

Where is the incentive to be a guard?

You won't be paid well, won't have the required tools to do your job, you'll be a laughing stock.

Until those circumstances change, more of the above will happen unfortunately.

McEntee out with the soundbites already. She is still so far removed from the scale of the problem.

It will take a Guard being killed for real action to happen.

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119901859#Comment_119901859

What exactly is she supposed to do?

Unleash Robocop?

🙄

Star Bingo

The guards don’t appear to have any authority anymore. They’re goin around now decked out on hi vis tracksuit tops skangers probably think fair game !

Why though were only two sent out?

Are we short on Gardaí that they should have sent out like

half a dozen burly looking 'men' & sort this problem out!

Not a situation to be putting any young Gardaí into!

Thelonious Monk

To be fair, the state of our Garda. They don't give off any presence or authority. No one takes them seriously. We've all been to Spain and France etc. where the police look like they just don't f*ck around and take any sh*t. Ours look like out of shape rabbits in the headlights half the time.

The uniforms don't help either, ridiculous looking things. They need rebranding and a whole new approach to everything.

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My thoughts exactly whatever your opinion!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119901900#Comment_119901900

Helpful. It's not like she is Minister for Justice or anything? 🙄

Tazium

The video shows a shocking beating of a person trying to perform their job. It's truly horrific and those with sensitivity to such things would be advised not to watch it.

I hope the Gardai involved recover well and I truly hope the Gardai can leverage the supports they desperately need to see such instances of violence and criminality be met with appropriate consequences.

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119901943#Comment_119901943

She isn't Minister for Pre-Crime though.

So again what is she supposed to do?

Or are you just venting irrationally?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119901934#Comment_119901934

any word for the scrotes at all there by any chance

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119901965#Comment_119901965

Well we all know we produce some ridiculously rough people in this country, we should have the forces to deal with them too.

penno

These vermin have dozens if not hundreds of charges. free legal aid is a joke and a cash cow. Should be two strikes and you're out.

Community service is a must for early offenders. Parents dole/wages should be cut to compensate.

Too many with too much time on their hands. Everyone on SW should have to show up every morning to a local town hall and be offered a course or work for that day, Even if it entails the same course over and over.

Imagine if they reduced SW and rose the minimum wage, made the gap far wider between both. Solve many many social issues almost overnight. We can't get workers in my **** low paid job. They come in to get their work seeker forms filled in and nearly die when they're offered a job. They NEVER last longer than a week tops most not even the first day. They've all an excuse 'i've to leave now and pick me little brother up from school etc. So the foreign worker ends up filling the gap because they are willing to work. Ours are pampered pooches.

They openly sell drugs cause the streets belong to them.

God love the Gards what a thankless job. The state doesn't even have their backs. Every minister should be forced to give up one night a month to shadow our Garda and nurses in A&E. And as the above person suggests Primetime investigates should also be all over this. Who makes the money in all this.

Where do we put families who are giving a home courtesy of the taxpayers and then go on to abuse the home and the neighbours allowing their rodent children to commit acts like this. I've no clue we just seem to either leave them where they are or move them round the corner to terrorise somebody else or worse still unite and multiply.

SEPT 23 1989

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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119901956#Comment_119901956

And are you being deliberately obtuse for the sake of it?

- Legal system needs widespread reform

- A new prison is needed

-The Garda force need bulking up of resources. People, equipment, stations.

Her words mean nothing unless there is meaningful action. As we have seen in the past it will blow over until the next time.

spaceHopper

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119901051#Comment_119901051

"Enough is enough. Bulk up the force and equip them better."

How, 25% of those that join fail the fitness test. Very few are coming forward to joint

"Fix up a lenient legal system that lets repeat offenders walk through a revolving court room door."

How we don't have the prison space to hold them on remand or sentence them to x year.

What I’ve encountered, just as a normal citizen, and particularly in Dublin is this brazenness, a sort of weird aggressive school yard bully type and it pervades everything, because they know they can keep pushing it and there’ll be no response and no consequences.

They’re just extending that envelope they’ve been pushing out to the Gardai.

The legal consequences are a joke and there’s a terror of challenging anyone as the entire legal system seems to want to ensure maximum “compo” if you even attempt to fight back.

So we keep our heads down. We try not to make eye contact. We’re conditioned to walk past and not make a fuss and silently call 999 if we’re in trouble or see something happening, which results in a friendly unarmed, middle aged duo turning up in a family hatch back armed with a radio (if you’re lucky) who can arrest them, only for a judge to give them a mild telling off.

We've a system that seems to want to believe Ireland is some kind of a crime free utopia, where everything can be solved though the most gentle of interventions.

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119902028#Comment_119902028

people always go on about it but I've never heard of someone fighting back against some scumbag on the streets and getting done for it. People put the head down and walk because the vast majority of people don't want any kind of verbal or physical confrontation, not because they're afraid of getting done for defending themselves.

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119902022#Comment_119902022

And how would any of that have prevented this horrific crime?

Which country do not have these occasional serious assaults on their police force?

Deebles McBeebles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119901709#Comment_119901709

Ridiculous comment. She was also injured, maybe she just got a smack in the head? You probably just walk through punches like Robocop but most others don't. You might watch the whole thing before complaining about her.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119902065#Comment_119902065

I’m aware of two cases where they ended up in legal consequences. It’s an issue because people don’t really understand what rights they have. It’s vague. It’s often buried in civil and criminal case law and gets into complex, subjective interpretations of reasonable force and so on.

A lot of people also just don’t want to get stabbed so won’t intervene or interact at all.

All I can tell you is I’ve had the following over my life time:

Shouted at in the street, roughed up twice, followed, harassed even had a bottle of soft drink thrown out a car window at myself and a female friend while we were out for a walk, and she was slightly injured by it. I’ve been mugged once, my car was keyed twice, wipers broken off while parked in, another car was burned out by a local arsonist who decided to torch a car in my apartment building - destroying about 7 parked cars (about ten years ago) in a fairly nice part of town. As a 7 year old kid I was hurled abuse at by a middle aged woman on a bus because I asked her to stop smoking - including her threatening to “rip” my head off…

The lack of visible policing and particularly transport policing is a really big issue for a lot of people, yet it seems nothing is done. We’re all talk and no action.

I could go on…

Dublin’s alright but there are times I wonder was it an old pirate settlement or something. It can be dog rough.

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119902164#Comment_119902164

I think it's just down to a long history of oppression, poverty, the Catholic church etc. I don't really know. You don't seem to get the same carry on in other European countries to the same extent anyway, or at least it isn't as visible.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119902285#Comment_119902285

France is pretty bad in spots. So is Belgium in my experience.

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119901956#Comment_119901956

That's just you being deeply disingenuous or just childish.

If you can't accept that the Minister for Justice has some bearing on Policing, Justice and law...

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119902325#Comment_119902325

IF you could point where I suggest she didn't?

noc1980

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119902164#Comment_119902164

Last time I was there almost had my head taken off by a 2 litre bottle thrown out the window of a speeding car. There must have been 200 of us on the footpath walking back from the point after a concert and despite being half deaf from the gig the sound of that bottle crashing against the wall just above our heads is something I'll never forget. Half a foot lower and it would absolutely have killed someone. You're never too far from scum that would do you harm in that city.

Kermit.de.frog

We operate reverse Darwin in this country. These scamps are provided bread and board and contribute fcuk all to this society except damage.

Welfare should be stopped completely after x convictions.

Couldn't care less what happens to them.

erlichbachman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119901209#Comment_119901209

I wouldn't say nothing changed, the amount of people out walking what look to be retired greyhounds has increased greatly

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119901709#Comment_119901709

If I was that colleague or a colleague of hers back at the station I’d be raging, she’s watching her mate take an absolute hammering and she’s walking around like a scared 12 year old in a playground looking at it happening..… that’s diabolical…

im actually shocked at that more then the attack….mad. 😬

erlichbachman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119901949#Comment_119901949

It seems someone is shouting that the guard hit a girl? Not saying that this is justified, but another high ranking guard was on the news stating that cameras could be worn for safety, in this day and age is seems ridiculous not to have them, for the safety of everyone, it would reduce the inclination for both guards and the general public to do anything stupid.

Peintre Celebre

What really is deafening is the silence from the policing authority when something like this happens. Guards getting hammered is fine but put a spit hood on a hep C positive scrote that is spitting at Gardai and they are shouting from the rafters about it.

thegame983

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119902285#Comment_119902285

Barcelona is pick pocket central

Peintre Celebre

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119901934#Comment_119901934

Thank the policing authority, council for civil liberties, Paul Murphy or Richard Boyd Barrett or the likes for that. Dpp and management will absolutely hang a guard out to dry for any use of force. You'd want to be one thousand percent sure before you take out a baton nowadays.