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Renting out spare room - noise issues tenant

  • 31-10-2022 9:39am
    Registered Users Posts: 2,287 ✭✭✭Fiona

    We have been renting out our spare room for the last 2 months. We have had to ask the tenant numerous times to use headphones when on the phone.

    He is constantly speaking to his girlfriend and he has her on speaker phone early in the morning (before 11am my partner works shift so he does nights) The television we have provided in the room is also up full blast some mornings and we have offered to buy him headphones.

    Can I provide written warnings in this situation, my first time renting out a room so I am a bit clueless. I did a tenancy agreement and I have the following in it:

    'The Tenant agrees to control and minimise any noise in the house (including TV, radio and such instruments) after 10.00pm'

    Is it possible to amend it? We did verbally say to him 11am / 11pm was the noise limits after the first time we had to ask him to turn down the tele at midnight one night and when he woke us up on the phone one morning.

    He is a nice lad but my god the phone is getting unbearable, I just don't see how he doesn't see having his phone up full blast at 9am in the morning is not a problem when he knows another person living in the house has been working nights!



  • Registered Users Posts: 451 ✭✭moceri

    Sharing your home always includes compromises

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,993 ✭✭✭KaneToad

    This is a licensee arrangement. You can ask occupant to leave with minimal notice. He can also leave with minimal notice.

    His behaviour isn't outlandish but it is incompatible with what you require. He is better off in a scenario that is not as restricted as yours.

    You could mention it to him that you don't think arrangement is working out and outline the reasons why. He may modify behaviour but he may decide to seek alternative arrangements.

    The other option is to end arrangement and get a more suitable licensee who is aware of the restrictions from the start.

    You should also consider whether your situation is compatible, at all, with a licensee.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,287 ✭✭✭Fiona

    Just for some context on this

    Saturday morning we were woken up by him having a full scale row with his girlfriend on the phone. I had to knock on the door and ask him to stop.

    Yesterday morning woken again at 8.30am with the tele up full blast

    This morning, the girlfriend on the speaker phone again at 9am I had to text him to turn it down.

    Myself and my partner use headphones all the time on our phones, we tip toe around the house in the morning as we get up before him.

    There is no respect returned by way of noise control and it's draining at this stage, there is no limits on times of showers or cooking that's free reign in the house and the sitting room is his to use just no phones on speaker phone and keep the tele down low is the only thing we are asking for here.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,870 ✭✭✭✭callaway92

    As a previous poster said, you’re not cut out for it

    Cut your ties with him now and remove him from the house. No matter what, anything he does now will annoy you, even if he makes minor adjustments

    I’d worry (just by the time of your posts here) that you may struggle to remove him though

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,287 ✭✭✭Fiona

    Yeah I thought we were being nice not imposing resrictions on shower and cooking times as I have heard some horror stories of people not being allowed to shower after a certain time but getting woken up on a Saturday morning by people having a fight is not cool.

    I WFH and I won't take calls until 11am when he is on his day off - starting to get really annoyed that respect is not being reciprocated back ya know?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,287 ✭✭✭Fiona

    Fully agree but the respect we are giving him to have a comfortable and relaxing home environment is not being reciprocated back so now I just need to learn about my options.

  • Registered Users Posts: 8,110 ✭✭✭Furze99

    One final warning and make it clear.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,287 ✭✭✭Fiona

    So just so I know is it acceptable for people to be using their phones like that in a rental situation?

    As I said he is a nice lad, he is clean and tidy the phone is the only issue so I wouldn't say I am not cut out for it just because of one issue.

    I could easily just start waking him up at 5.30am in the morning and be petty and have my Mam on speaker when I am in the shower and then we would all be even ya know.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,287 ✭✭✭Fiona

    But what are considered day time hours at the weekend? Would it not be a little bit later in the day?

    The weekend is where we have the problems x

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,609 ✭✭✭Tonesjones

    8 in the morning most of the world is up and active.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,287 ✭✭✭Fiona

    Yeah I will have to have a proper chat with him.

    I have said it before if the bedroom door is closed somebody is sleeping so just keep it down and if it's open you can scream shout as loud as you want and I won't care.

    Once everybody is awake I don't care how much noise ya make!

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,287 ✭✭✭Fiona

    If he just didn't have her on speaker phone up full blast it would be grand, if somebody is speaking a bit low on the phone nobody is going to bat an eye lid at that.

    Maybe I am just too nice in that he is paying to live here and when my partner is out the door at 5am and I am starting work across the landing from him I am quiet as a mouse so as not to wake him cos I know how hard it is for people these days and we all just want somewhere nice to call home.

    I helped him out he had to leave his girlfriends house at short notice, he is very young as well. This is what happens when you do a good deed lol

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,287 ✭✭✭Fiona

    Yes, the room was not available until a certain date as we didn't have it finished yet and we gave him a bed for two weeks in my step daughters room as he was badly stuck at a reduced rate as he was desperate for a bed.

    I know he pays, but you would think when somebody helps you out that you could give just a little bit back but lesson learnt.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,287 ✭✭✭Fiona

    If the television was a bit lower it wouldn't be a problem, the room is small, he has it up at about 20, there is just no need. I have offered to buy bluetooth headphones. I could be a right hag and take the tele off the wall lol.

    I would certainly be a lot clearer on rules around morning noise next time around, pointless me being quiet in the morning for the benefits of others. My partner does not work nights all the time, I have the shift on view for the tenant to see along with the kids schedule so he knows when his girfriend can come over to stay without asking.

    I have been too nice from the start with not enough clear rules lesson learnt!

  • Registered Users Posts: 15,362 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout

    There's a pair of ye in it. Being up and about and living your life normally after 8am is a reasonable expectation in any house. Now he isn't playing ball by having the girlfriend on speakerphone, but you also can't expect him to tiptoe around the house until 11am each day. Having said that its your house, so your rules, if it's not working out ask him to leave.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,287 ✭✭✭Fiona

    Is now a bad time to say I do his washing too 🙈

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,287 ✭✭✭Fiona

    He doesn't have to tip toe, he can shower cook etc but we are in the room next door there is no need to have the phone up full blast on speaker phone.

    Or else take up the offer of a pair of decent headphones to be bought for you and use them for 1 or two hours in the morning.