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Sleep Problems

  • 26-10-2022 5:51pm
    Registered Users Posts: 26 Smoke420meme

    Got laid off last month and my sleep schedule has been decimated. Started off as going to sleep later and later till recently only feeling sleepy at 4am. Then I went over to a mates gaff on the weekend and stayed up all night drinking till 10am. I went to sleep at 10am that morning after drinking and didn't wake up till like 6pm. Now my sleep schedule has moved to sleeping at 7am and waking up at 5pm.

    I'm starting a new job in 2 weeks and I'm getting desperate to fix my sleep schedule. I have considered getting sleeping tablets but I'm sure my doctor will not give me them.

    Is my only option to just pull an all nighter? Just drink coffee when I start to feel sleepy at 7am? Power through the day and hopefully crash at around 10 or 11pm?


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,053 ✭✭✭✭Strumms

    Dr Elaine Purcell in the Mater Private or several consultants in the Bon’s Secours hospital deal with sleep disorders.

    i can’t vouch for any of them as my sleep problems righted themselves on leaving a rather poxy job but there is help.

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    We have a Sleeping and Dreaming forum that may be of interest to you.

  • Registered Users Posts: 26 Smoke420meme

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,978 ✭✭✭Mongfinder General

    Had a similar slump after college. It was sorted with a 6am start in a new job. It was a tough first day but within a couple of days I was asleep by 10pm each night.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Pissy Missy

    You'd be good for a waking night shift. I don't think you'll need to see a specialist or get sleeping tablets, just manipulate your body back to a routine, work will prob force it in you like the previous poster said. If you fall asleep at 7am, set your alarm at 1pm and slowly work your way to waking up earlier and earlier

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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,574 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke

    Sounds like your body prefers the night shift. Mine does too. My waking hours are 4pm-9am, ish. While everyone else sleeps, I feel full of energy. On the odd times where I have to go back to day mode, it wrecks me, even if I get back in the sleeping pattern. I just work better at night.

    As for how to change, when I need to and can plan, I plan a long day, wake up at 4pm and stay awake until at least 4pm the following day, if not later. Taking a nap should be avoided.

  • Registered Users Posts: 462 ✭✭Ish66

    Quick Pedel and crank perhaps?

  • If I had two weeks to shift my sleep schedule back - I would probably try and do it incrementally. Half hour per day over the 14 days. So if you are at 07:00 now then try for 06:30 the next day, 06:00 the next, and so on. After 14 days this will be a 7 hour shift back to around midnight.

    Getting up earlier each day can also help to ensure you are tired enough to make the going to sleep part better. So maybe try and work with 6 hours sleep rather than 8 during that two weeks - or at least the first few days of it. Physical exercise during the wakeful times. Doesn't have to be super serious exercise but should at least push your usual limits a bit.

    Don't see why your doctor would not give you a sleeping pill if you explain you are looking for a short term course to help readjust your sleeping patterns. Something relatively mild like Zopiclone/Imovane perhaps.

  • Registered Users Posts: 13,574 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke

    Don't see why your doctor would not give you a sleeping pill if you explain you are looking for a short term course to help readjust your sleeping patterns. Something relatively mild like Zopiclone/Imovane perhaps.

    Just my opinion, but man-made-for-profit chemicals should be the last go to imo. Thankfully some doctors are getting on board with that.

  • Registered Users Posts: 26 Smoke420meme

    I am going to try waking up earlier everyday. I was waking up at 5pm, so today I set an alarm for 1pm, which I woke up for. I will see what time I get tired at tonight, if I have calculated correctly I will be tired at 4am. I will probably keep trying to wake up earlier as it's impossible to make myself go to sleep earlier.

    An observation I have made is that I get tired about 15 hours after waking up. So if I wake up at 1pm I should be tired by around 4am.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭Star Bingo

    Rest is earned, do something physically strenuous in your day. Half hour of hard cardio or some sh to the point you’re schwettin like a raypist / breathin like a lunatic, a proper state. Smoking helps to relax too

  • Registered Users Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7

    A one-off help can break a cycle of insomnia .. Long term lack of sleep is not good. Anti histamines eg travel sickness meds. are excellent as are some herbs eg lemon balm

  • Registered Users Posts: 42,768 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989

    Over the counter Night Nurse works better for me than any prescribed tablet

    a bit ropey when you wake up but a cup of coffee sorts that out

  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭ Cup

    I was a complete night person and thought it would never change. I almost always worked “normal”, start at 9am, jobs though so I was just wrecked every morning, and wide awake at midnight.

    Wish I could say why, but something flipped in the last year or so. I’ve been working from home the last year, so, technically could just roll out of bed last minute, but I’m actually getting up a bit earlier than before, going for a walk, getting some morning-stuff done, and I’m wide away and full of energy. On the flip side, I’m starting to crash by around 10pm. Not partying like I used to - that probably actually has a lot to do with it in reality.

  • Registered Users Posts: 190 ✭✭Jackben75

    do not take sleeping pills, your body clock is out after a short term blimp. Stay up one day without going to sleep until the follwoing night, you will be wrecked but back on track after a few days. Pills are not the answer! stay well

  • Registered Users Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7

    We are all and each different and with different solutions. Sometimes pills can be an answer, and it depends too on the reason for not sleeping. eg pain.

  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    I'd say you'll crash way before then.Myself can't sleep without having certain background sounds like thunder storms or even crickets chirping.Sounds weird but they are sounds of home to me and puts me right to sleep.Maybe try having something relaxing playing when you go to bed see if it works.