Using starlink and a broadband supplier?

Feets

Has anyone used the broadband that comes in an eir package deal plus Starlink? Was going to buy Starlink as it works well in our area and the 4g is brutal in the area. Going to get a landline but broadband is also in the package. Would doubling up stop one of the internet providers from working?

The Cush

Why not go for starlink for broadband and get a 900 MHz band mobile repeater for calls.

2g/3g calls in the 900 MHz band.

I'm confused.

Do you mean use an Eir branded router with Starlink?

That might not be possible. The Eir router would be setup for VDSL service over a phone line, or their implementation of FTTH.

You'd be better off buying a new router.

The Cush

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119787986#Comment_119787986

My understanding is the OP requires a landline only phone but it only comes bundled with an internet package and if the landline router will interfere with the starlink router.

A question for the OP, is there a copper line to the house already or will a new landline be required?

As they are winding down copper lines in favour of fibre it might be difficult to get one.

A phone only line should be available from eircom, without broadband, it isn't available on the website I believe but you will have to contact them directly.

kippy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058268850/using-starlink-and-a-broadband-supplier

Why would you pay more for a landline and BB when all you need is a phone number?

You can get a phone number as well as equipment to plug into your existing starlink router here:

https://voiptel.ie/

there are other providers but I've been dealing with these guys of late and their fee is about fifteen per month for the number and relatively unlimited calls. They will provide the hardware requires also for a one off fee.

I may have gotten this wrong and this isn't what you are looking for.

The Continental Op

OP, you can't just plug two internet connections into a single router.

You need a load balancing router.

It might not be that easy to configure but the cheapest way I could find to do something similar was with this https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-SafeStream-Multi-WAN-Managemet-TL-R605/dp/B08LQMJCPG/ beware the same page lists other products that won't work as well because they are only 100Mbps.

But kippy's reply sounds a sensible approach to me.

Well, you could just get Eir broadband and only use it for VoIP phone service, but it would be a ludicrously expensive way of running your landline phone if you already have another broadband provider.

You can't connect two broadband providers together without fairly complex configuration and load balancing (as was said above).

Just get yourself a VoIP account, port your landline number over (the VoIP provider will take care of that) and get an ATA and plug in your existing phone or buy yourself a nice VoIP phone. There are various fancy desk phones and cordless options available. That just plugs into your router and off you go.

They're phasing out the classic exchange based phone services anyway, so VoIP is the default for any phone provider you sign up to. With Starlink you'd just have to bring your own VoIP service from a 3rd party VoIP company.

Also, you'd possibly be better off just moving over to mobile entirely. If you get Eir, Gomo or Vodafone for example, you can just use WiFi calling in your house if you've dodgy coverage. You just enable it and the phone jumps over to using the WiFi for calls/texts instead of the mobile network and jumps back to the mobile network when you're not in the house - all seamless.

Just be aware that 3, and none of the companies hanging off it as MVNOs like Virgin, currently support WiFi calling

When you consider the price of unlimited calls on mobile these days, there's very little point in using VoIP, even for a small business.

If you've a landline number you want to keep e.g. an old business number, just port it to a cheap VoIP provider and unconditionally divert the incoming calls to your mobile, which you can usually do through their web interfaces. You might not even bother with a VoIP handset.

Feets

There is a landline it just needs connecting...once I pick a provider.

I’m still not understanding this.

If you’re going with Starlink you do not need a physical phone line at all.

Landline voice service is just an application on the IP network at this stage and you’ve a really good connection already.

New landline (geographic) voice telephone services these days are provided a VoBB (voice over broadband), unless there’s some reason you can’t get broadband.

The classic telephone services are being phased out. OpenEir is even replacing the old digital exchanges with VoIP gear at present, more than half of them are already gone. These will mostly just be used to support legacy customers, anyone new gets VoBB.

Eir, Vodafone, Digiweb, Sky etc will typically connect you over VDSL (fibre to the cabinet) or FTTH (fibre to the home). That gives you a very fast, stable broadband IP connection to their network.

Your voice phone services are then provided by VoIP equipment in the box (router) that they provide you. It connects to a specialist server known as a “softswitch” which provides the same functions a telephone exchange over IP networks.

In most cases you plug that phone into an analogue phone jack on the back of the router and it will provide a dial tone and services comparable to a classic phone line from an exchange.

(Digiweb and some others using FritzBox routers can also optionally connect your cordless DECT handsets directly to the router, without any analogue step. It just works like a cordless base station.)

Virgin cable services have done this for a long time. It’s the only way they’ve ever provided phone services.

It is a landline service. You get a landline number and it works exactly the same as (arguably better than) a classic landline.

With Starlink you’ve already got and are paying a lot for high speed, low latency broadband service, without a physical wire, co-ax or fibre coming into your home. You don’t need a second physical connection from Eir or anyone else.

You simply need to purchase a VoIP service from someone else like Goldfish or Irishvoip.com etc etc and you’ll have a landline service.

You just need to buy an “ATA” (analogue terminal adaptor) which will provide the landline dial tone interface to your exiting phones, or you can go fancy and get VoIP cordless or corded phones. There are tons of options online. A lot of them are really good for home business - you can hold, transfer, have fancy diverts and routing, can add extra numbers (even in other counties or countries) and all sorts of stuff.

If you want to throw money away on line rental and call plans on a physical landline when you already have very fast broadband, you’re literally flushing cash down the pan!

This document, aimed at the alarm industry, explains exactly what OpenEir are up to with the phase out of the old Nokia/Alcatel E10 and Ericsson AXE exchanges that provided digital phone service here since 1980:

https://www.g4s.com/en-ie/-/media/g4s/unitedkingdom/files/roi_pstn_switchover_presentation__final.ashx?la=en&hash=A93A712AFD337B849D761659636BD261

Basically you’d be subscribing to a service that is being effectively closed down.

Feets

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119792704#Comment_119792704

That is a great document. Crazy how everyone will rely on some form of internet for phone...and trust it to work ...I liked the idea of old and new tech. I will try those companies. Thanks.

You’re already using VoIP all the time anyway, just over telcos’ managed/private IP networks.