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dumb Americans

  • 16-10-2022 8:22am
    Registered Users Posts: 119 ✭✭slither12

    Why do Americans get the stereotype of being stupid? Lived there in my youth and it was pretty great and most kids/teens and adults seemed to mirror people here. They have the worlds best universities and job opportunities.



  • Registered Users Posts: 526 ✭✭✭MakersMark

    Europe being so screwed up has to further this stereotype to feel good.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,437 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious

    But the stereotype dumb American is often a well educated white man, not a poor black or Hispanic American.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭Star Bingo

    foR suRe. Can’t stand the yoyo’s, like the most insufferable Americans I never hope to encounter. Particularly the guilt tripping Germans the sooner we break free of the USEing cnuts and rediscover our own sense of nazionalism is the day we win back our esteem in the eyes of the world. And ironically win the Eurovision again…

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,629 ✭✭✭Greyfox

    If you watch CNN or Fox news it's easy to get the impression that they are stupid, also theirs loads of YouTube videos showing American people been stupid so I can see where it all comes from. I think theirs a slightly higher % of stupid people in America than Europe but that's down to less education options for poor people and news media been worse over their rather than the people.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,728 ✭✭✭Motivator

    I spent 1 year in university in America in my early 20s. The education system is totally different to what we have in Ireland. Over there we had open book exams which was essentially a race to see how fast something could be googled. We had MCQ exams for all modules and to be be honest it was all a bit of a pisstake in terms of difficulty and with very little effort I and the other Irish with me breezed through our exams. I would honestly say a junior cert student would pass final year college exams in America, if it was a subject they have had some exposure to.

    American’s are what I’d call brainwashed into believing that they live in the greatest country on earth and nothing else matters. It’s not that they’re dumb but the education system is so hell bent on training young people to keep the “spirit of ‘Murica” going strong that they have no chance of learning about anything outside of their country. Americans are very similar to Irish people in that they’re incredibly clannish and proud to the point that a huge number of American people don’t venture outside of their own state. They believe everything they ever want or need is right there at home.

    In the last decade or so, Social Media has opened up Americans to the rest of the world and a lot of younger people are now travelling whereas before, a crazy percentage of people in America didn’t even own passports. American tv, politics and education is totally focused on America and the outside world never really mattered to them until recently. As I said, by and large they’re not dumb they just know what they’re told.

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,008 ✭✭✭Trigger Happy

    They are not dumb...they are uncultured.

  • This is actually a very hard question to answer. I guess the best answer I can think of, based on the Americans I know personally - is not that Americans are dumb, but I do think they are often very out of touch to the point of ignorance about the rest of the World.

    And because its so drummed into them that "America is the greatest country in the world" they believe that everyone else always gets it wrong (no matter what the subject is) and America is always in the right. I've visited America a couple of times, and it's great for a holiday, but I wouldn't like to live there.

  • Registered Users Posts: 8,831 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese

    It's the way they talk, some of them at least anyway, with that inflection at the end of every sentence. They could be PhD holding mensa member and they'd still sound thick as shít when they open their mouth.

  • Registered Users Posts: 14,437 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious

    a huge number of American people don’t venture outside of their own state.They believe everything they ever want or need is right there at home.

    But in many cases that is totally true.

    A New Yorker has everything from a huge city to rural farmland to beaches to snowcapped peaks within their own state.

    It has heavy industry, knowledge industry, everything.

    Same goes for California or Texas, and for other smaller or less diverse states their need is not far away, and in the same country, with the same language, the same culture and the same currency.

    We in Ireland live on a small island, we need to look further afield to get what we need.

    But just because we have to do that that doesn't necessarily make us smarter than the New Yorker who has everything within their state.

  • Posts: 0 Kimora Weak Point

    Sinclair Lewis? Tennessee Williams? Lenny Bruce? Robert Fitzgerald Kennedy? Eugene O'Neil? Michael Chabon? Patti Smith? Jeffrey Eugenides? Upton Sinclair? John Steinbeck? Martin Scorsese?

    I could sit here all day typing these names, they are among the most cultured people in the world.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,629 ✭✭✭Greyfox

    Your post is very rude and not relevant to the discussion. I personally don't think grammar nazis belong on boards. I don't care about spelling mystakes on boards as its not a work or personal email.

    I disagree anyway, education is very expensive in America. You also have powerful people like Trump that demonstrate that bullying and making it us v them is a better tacic than discussing topics leading American people to stay entrenched in their opinions.

  • I wonder how many Americans could identify all 32 counties on a blank map of Ireland.

  • Posts: 0 Kimora Weak Point

    Well now to be fair I wasn't being a grammar Nazi and I did try to make that clear. I agree I don't like them either, I was only using the example to say things can easily be taken out of context. If one person makes a spelling mistake don't assume 350 million of their fellow citizens are low IQ idiots. Sorry, I wasn't trying to say that's what you personally were doing, I just meant that it's what a lot of other people do seem to do.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,791 ✭✭✭Jim_Hodge

    Top 10 Smartest Countries Based on Students' Test Scores in Reading, Math and Science - OECD PISA 2018:

    1. China - 555, 591, 590
    2. Singapore - 549, 569, 551
    3. Macau (China) - 525, 558, 544
    4. Hong Kong (China) - 524, 551, 517
    5. Estonia - 523, 523, 530
    6. Canada - 520, 512, 518
    7. Finland - 520, 507, 522
    8. Ireland - 518, 500, 496
    9. Korea - 514, 526, 519
    10. Poland - 512, 516, 511

    Canada makes the list. At least they are North Americans.

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭gameoverdude

    Americans are not thick.

    The majority just don't give a crap about outside of their borders. Huge country and can do a holiday for whatever you want.

    They see Europe as a fantasy land. Paris, Rome, Madrid, London...a lot of them can't compute how we can just jump on a plane and be there within 3 hours. They'd love to go.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭downtheroad

    Thick around the waist. I was at a water park in Florida yesterday, observing them guzzling down litres of soda and devouring jumbo packs of crisps at 9am.

    Young males with huge man boobs everywhere. Humans the size of baby elephants, waddling around the park.

    They're too thick to understand nutrition, or corn syrup is being pushed at them from every direction.

  • Registered Users Posts: 20,075 ✭✭✭✭recode the site

    I know a few Irish folk who got dumbed down by settling in America and have the outlook of 1950s/60s/70s Ireland. On the other hand I was very pleasantly surprised to meet seriously well relatives from California who study European architecture & history, Shakespeare, learn languages etc.

    Righteous Television Events is an ace broadcasting organisation; we’ll not be hearing counter opinion, d’jya hear me?

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭gameoverdude

    That's not a huge achievement. We do that in school here. I mean kids.

    Edit: we learn American history here and non Irish history as a matter of course.

  • Registered Users Posts: 393 ✭✭Starfire20

    not thick, just subjected to terrible labour protections/rights, few holidays, awful healthcare bureaucracy, and the constant reinforcing of the American exceptionalism fantasy.

    lots of them trying to change that of course but no doubt an uphill struggle.

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭gameoverdude

  • Registered Users Posts: 501 ✭✭✭B2021M

    Looks like this table is based on reading ability alone? If you look at the three numbers doesn't look like we should be in 8th place.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭gameoverdude

    I actually agree with you. Back when I was 21 on a j1, they were amazed I was never with a prostitute or didn't talk about ****. Weird, maybe just me.

    I made good mates, lovely people and I'll embrace their differences. But believe anything.