The Irish womens team singing 'Up the Ra'

John Doe1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7Kl-qftZ94

Watch this condescending English lad talking about the need for education in the aftermath.

Because of course the IRA occurred in a vacuum....

I think they should double down and have the Wolfe tones as the anthem at the world cup.😀

thegame983

To be fair our media have been just as pearl clutching.

buried

Wait until the brits hear what goes on over in america every 4th of July, they'll f**king loose their minds altogether

Danzy

I'm backing our ladies and backing our armed forces.

Come on you girls in Green and up the Ra.

c.p.w.g.w

Really hope the Irish fans that travel bang out a rendition of it during the opening game at the world cup

waterwelly

Marvellous, shame on the lislzzy in a box moaners.

won’t someone please think of the children.

What kind of muppet thinks "up the ra" is acceptable in this day and age? **** wits lol and them knowing cameras are a thing?

Akrasia

They meant the good ra, not the bad ra

JL555

hilarious. all the virtue signalling and overcompensation by the media (rte in particular) over this football team, then they sing 'up the ra' , what a shower of absolute dopes.

Madeoface

It might be condescending but the team let themselves down very badly in this. Soured a great night.

Imagine the reaction if Scotland had won and that team started singing no surrender to the ira for some equally bizarre reason that our team chanted their shite, in Scotland....??? Why? Over exuberance?

They do need education IMHO.

MrMusician18

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119737329#Comment_119737329

RTE news and sport in particular have decided that their role is not just to report on the games but to actively promote women's sport - team sport especially so. To the point now that it's hard to listen to.

However laudable this approach may be it's not actually their remit. And as shown, putting people on a pedestal can backfire.

That said, this is a bit of a storm in a teacup.

Jinglejangle69

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119737333#Comment_119737333

It was in a dressing room probably started by 1 person and the rest joined in not knowing.

Cancel them all!!!

KilOit

Nonstory if there ever was one. Funny that it's coming from a British news outlet, they need a bit of self-reflection if they are going to call out other countries' football antics

Atlantic Dawn

Celtic Symphony enters the Irish iTunes Charts at number 13 😂...

https://twitter.com/wolfetones/status/1580295686113095682?cxt=HHwWhMDTrbijq-4rAAAA

Count Dracula

I still won't be able to name any of them in 2 weeks time.

They will always be referred to as the team that celebrated their win singing republican slogans... more annoyingly they have opened the subject that chanting " ooo a " is a thing to be doing?

Is that all they could come up with?

By the way, they were worse to apologise for it, it should have been brushed off with a reference to Paul McGrath and a cheeky smile. Always smile when celebrating your nationality and your patriotism for it, **** happens.

Why don't they wear miniskirts like the hockey girls? It reminds me of the famous words spoken to Duran Duran by EMI execs in the 80's

" You look awful..... you sound awful .... you play awful.......... you should go a long way "

Oh armoured cars tanks and guns......

Atlantic Dawn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119737357#Comment_119737357

Number 1 now...

https://kworb.net/charts/itunes/ie.html

AyeGer

I thought it took the shine of a great performance and result. Totally unnecessary to be singing up the ra.

Mundo7976

They were misheard, they were actually singing ooh ahh Paul McGrath, duh.

end of the road

absolute non story and non issue to be honest, more fool on them to appollogise for expressing an act of our culture.

Bad form. "Up the paramilitary organisation that murdered many innocent people" is not a good look. Can't see why people don't understand that (or claim not to).

And before anyone starts with the whataboutery, yes I know the history, despise loyalism and am fairly nationalist leaning.

Sweet Talkin Romeo

at least it draws attention to "The Women's Game" - first I even heard they were playing 😁

on flip side, and we all know it, were it blokes that sang that song, then they'd be "roundly castigated" by all and sundry; "education" wouldn't rate a mention - until the apology days later

WD the Irish Women's Team 🙆

Strumms

If a camera made it into the dressing rooms at Windsor Park and a Northern Ireland Team were singing songs about the UVF, UFF or UDA it would garner criticism and derision.. quite rightly.

stupid shower of…

Over 25 years since the IRA ceasefire…. And here are a few young ones, actively representing their country, a fantastic achievement and victory, aware there is media present , so there are cameras, journalists etc feet away, and therefore the eyes of the world on them… and still at that craic….it’s unlikely Vera Pauw will have been aware of the significance but certainly Tom Elmes the assistant coach / manager who is English would have been…

not to take away from the sporting achievement which is class, great job… needed some leadership back there which was significantly lacking.

joseywhales

We have no business knowing what happens in a dressing room, it's supposed to be a private safe area for a team.

lmao10

I was very disappointed. We are trying to move forward. I believe a united Ireland is a part of that in the distant future. Ireland and the UK can still have a great relationship and support each other. No need for up the ra songs. Yes there was a time when we would all have been pro IRA as it was either you were with the IRA or the Brits but the past is the past and we have no choice but to let it go. There are people on the other side who feel similarly and those are the ones you connect and bond with and create strong relationships. The people who are stuck in the past or can't let go of their biases and be open, are the ones who suffer the most because they have to live like that 24/7. I don't think the girls did themselves any favours at all. Certainly didn't come across as having any common sense in that situation anyway.

kippy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119737333#Comment_119737333

I tell ya who needs education. The clown who recorded it and the clown who shared it initially. It maybe the same person or indeed the people who allow recordings in the first place.

No doubt a stupid thing to be singing and based on the age profile of those girls very few were around at the height of it but people get caught up in the emotion of moments like that and do silly things.

You'll ear versions of that ditty at pubs and night clubs across the country some where every weekend. I don't think people even think of its significance any more.

English fans are always singing rule Britannia at their national games. It’s not a fringe element either it’s the entire stadium. Literally glorifying the murder of millions by the British empire. You never hear a word about that though. Although if you were to mention that they’d probably call you woke as they have nothing else.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119737320#Comment_119737320

Is that you Ryan tubridy :p

Lewis_Benson

Blah blah blah....

Next.

xxxxxxl

These things make me lol as an outsider. Lad puts a pan of bread on the head nothing to see here. Both are just as bad I wager if it was a Orange order song or whatever they call themselves would be hand wringing city.

Rjd2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119737412#Comment_119737412

I'd be skeptical of anyone under 50 who has never sung it sung it tbh when on the pints tbh.

Mixed feelings on it, I feel sorry for the girls to be dragged into this culture war bollocks as they clearly meant no malice, but also I am slightly annoyed by how naive they were to allow that to get out of the dressing room.

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119737484#Comment_119737484

Were told sports people are role models for children. Are we suggesting women are Naive vs the male counterparts ? Stupid song should never have been sung. Simple People in the 50s lived in part through the troubles. At least they have an excuse.

Buachillsalach

Woke community out in force here.

Great result, nothing to apologise for. Any Irish publications/ outlets giving this air time are completely sad.

I think I hear some kids singing ring a ring a Rosie, must dash and lecture them on how offensive that is to ancestors of people that died during the plague

whisky_galore

Idiots. They have a lot to learn about being in the gaze of media.

Montage of Feck

Rte are a disgrace, worse than that smug git on sky news. Had to turn off the TV in disgust at the hatchet job they put out on the news.

Also people should learn to keep their phones in their pockets, the girls are entitled to celebrate their great achievement anyway they like without it getting posted online.

StrawbsM

It will blow over and better to have happened now rather than at the World Cup itself. Going forward, they definitely need a full time team advising them on their public image and do’s and dont’s of social media.

Tough lesson to learn but take the positives out of that, ladies. You are a big deal now. You are elite sportswomen and young girls and boys throughout the country want to be you! You’re going to the World Cup!

StrawbsM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119737534#Comment_119737534

Wasn’t it one of the team themselves that recorded and posted it?

lawred2

Usual lot out taking offence for others... Multi generational failure to educate our young footballers apparently.

Xander10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119737534#Comment_119737534

The reserve Goalkeeper recorded it and posted it online

joeguevara

I’ve listened to it a few times and it does sound to me that some were singing ‘up their ass’ when in certain locations or at certain times depending on varying issues.

Now I do understand why some people may think it’s inappropriate but the disingenuous shock by the Sky Sports presenter when every time they show Celtic play you hear clearly the crowd singing these exact words, and they never cut the sound or apologise for it.

Now interestingly, the faux outrage seems to dissipate when sport players, tv personalities and dignatories wear a Poppy. Now I’m going to be clear on this I have no issue with anyone who wishes to wear, promote and are proud of it and what it means. But you can’t choose what offends you but disregard a possible offence with the other.

Now you often hear that the Poppy is a symbol to remember the soldiers who lost their life in World War I and future peace. Which on the face of it is not controversial but when you consider it was the same soldiers who came who in 1916 executed the leaders of the rising, tying James Connolly to a wooden chair to face the firing line as he was too badly injured to stand to his death?

They disregard the fact that the poppy that honours the Black and Tans and the Parachute Regiment who shot 28 unarmed civilians on a 1972 Sunday in Derry during a peaceful protest against internment?

Now I suppose an argument could be made that the English team wouldn’t wear one if they came to Ireland equally they didn’t sing that alleged song in England. It was Celtic park where it is sung continuously.

if one is a historic symbol or remembering historic soldiers then so is the other as they are disbanded (allegedly).

Instead of interviewing an amazing sports person on their achievement, all that was discussed is someone getting offended because they heard a song.

What next they can’t sing Bloody Sunday because it characterises them as bad.

joeguevara

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058267250/the-irish-womens-team-singing-up-the-ra

Be brilliant if there was a social media campaign to get it to number 1 in the British charts, similar to Black and Tans and the Wolfe Tones winning the BBCs 2002 poll of best song of all time with ‘A Nation once again’

bad2thebone

Uh ahhh Paul McGrath, uhhh ahhh Paul McGrath... was how I remember it , which came first the chicken or the egg .

When I seen the clip of them singing the other version. I was like ohhh no, nooo, this isn't happening oh dear

This is probably just getting caught up in the excitement and next thing they're going hell for leather.

Definitely wasn't intentional to offend anyone, just words at the end of the day.

Hopefully it'll blow over and there's no need to guilt shame them.

slay55

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119737408#Comment_119737408

Well then tell that to the player that thought it was fine to live stream from her Instagram account.

I have no issues as long as nobody here does if any of the Home Counties sing about the uvf, being up to their knees in fenian blood etc etc

just harmless fun….. apparently

EOQRTL

Delighted they sang it not so delighted they apologised for it.

joeguevara

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119737570#Comment_119737570

Why Would people who live in the counties surrounding London like Surrey and Kent either know about the UVF and if they did want to sing about them but if they did it would actuallly be hilarious. Be no offence taken with me.

Would you be the type to take offence when Limerick Hurling Team sing Sean South from Garryowen which is about an IRA military column who were doin be g a raid on an RUC barracks in Brookeborough?

Montage of Feck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119737552#Comment_119737552

They should be the one dragged on the news to apologise so. I was very sad to see a visibly upset Katie McCabe being thrown to the vile media.

Montage of Feck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119737570#Comment_119737570

What about Rule Britannia?

prunudo

Ironic how the media world is falling over itself to support a country that is defending themselves from an occupied force yet are so quick to judge when people sing songs that hark back to a time when a portion of the population had to deal with military forces on street corners and hiding in ditches.

Like everything its more nuanced than that but it is something the people who are quick to be outraged should consider before they go mouthing off in the media looking for the next click bait story.

Sweet.Science

The IRA murdered innocent children . Blew them to pieces . There is nothing wrong to say it was ill-judged. They apologised and we move on . There is no need to defend it like some are .

Gusser09

They let themselves down. Of that there can be little debate. If that were a national team from the North singing about the UFV it would be highlighted too. Its a great achievement that has been tarnished by this lapse in judgement. Never mind the media. They are vultures.

joeguevara

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119737625#Comment_119737625

I 💯 agree with your point. But I don’t think singing a song that doesn’t promote violence. It’s about Celtic. Again if I heard the Northern Ireland football team singing the Sash wouldn’t bother me at all.

is Broad Black Brimmer out?

Is 4 green fields out

Is come out ye Black and Tans gone.

And I don’t condone any act of violence and what happened on both sides was abhorrent. But equally the UK security forces murdered 64 babies and young children at the same period.

This has nothing to do with promoting violence, glorifying terrorism or inciting hatred. It’s about singing a hugely popular song in Hampden Park where it’s been sung a million times before but now it’s offensive.